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Parent reacting negatively towards house purchase

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Asbusyasabee · 02/08/2025 21:16

AIBU?
Sorry if this is long!

My mum kindly offered to gift us £50,000 towards our house purchase. We accepted it, working towards a max budget. She has since felt the need to give us 'advice' on going for certain types of houses (sends us links to places we don't like) suggests we go to the max budget, and has even rescinded the 'gift' to more of a loan (said it'd unlikely but if needed some money back she'd ask us, but would give plenty of warning....)

We initially went for a house a few months ago, told her the good news about our offer being accepted (was £70k under our Max budget) and she spent a good 5 mins criticising the fact it was a terraced house. Offered no congratulations etc. It really deflated us.

For various reasons, the sale fell through, and we viewed a property quite quickly after and fell in love with it (large, 4 bed, large garden, garage, safe area etc). I told her at a family party today, her face looked like thunder when I told her which house it was (it wasn't one she liked, because it's an older house....and not a brand new build). I started to briefly explain why we love it and it's right for us, and she just interrupted me and said "we'll discuss this at your house" (she's coming to stay with us tonight) then she turned away from me and changed convo with a relative.

I feel so deflated, nothing will ever match her standards. Because of the £50k gift/loan, she feels she has the right to say where we live. I just want her to trust that we are capable adults making our own decisions etc. I'm in mid 30s, married, 3 young children, lived in plenty of houses and moved around a lot.

Can anyone offer any advice on how to deal with the upcoming conversation when she arrives at our house and she will want to talk about it?

Extra info - we can just about afford the house without her money, but it'll increase monthly payments by £271 and I can't be on the mortgage because I'm not working (will be in 2 years after maternity etc).

She has done subtle controlling things in the past e.g hanging up my washing on the clothes line 'the right way' but is equally very supportive (has come to stay and look after my children if I'm poorly, great with my children, gives us presents - but whenever my children wear something she gifted them, she'll say 'nanny bought you that' - she did this in the middle of us giving other big news in our life, and it wasn't an outfit she'd even bought my child!)

And we are moving to be closer to her and my brother and dad (within 30 mins)

OP posts:
spoonbillstretford · 03/08/2025 00:52

Take the money, buy the house and tell her to butt out. Also once they have given over the money it's a gift, they can't legally ask for it back.

florathedress · 03/08/2025 00:52

Make sure you are on the deeds if not the mortgage

Abitofalark · 03/08/2025 00:47

Well the first thing is to tell her why you like the house, the location, the amenities and all that it offers and why it suits you and you prefer it to a new build or whatever else.

You can then point out to her that buying a house is an emotional as well as practical and financial business. It's like choosing a husband. You have to fancy him and fall in love and want to marry him and live with him. It doesn't matter if someone shows you the greatest person on earth. Regardless of his gifts and qualities, if he doesn't appeal to you and you don't take to him personally, you can't be made to have him.

And just as you'd have to live with him, you are the ones who will have to live in the house and you cannot possibly have that decision and choice of house made by anyone else, no matter how much you love and appreciate them.
She won't be living in it. It can only be the choice of those who will.

Last, can you enlist your father or brother to put in a word for you to help soften her dictatorial tendencies on this?

On buying under your own steam, if finances are tight, consider the mortgage term. How long is it under your application / offer? Mortgages don't have to be what used to be the standard 25 years, and age limits for paying them off have gone up in many cases.
Taking out a loan over a longer term could help and would lower the monthly payments, making it easier to manage the transitional period until you get back to work in a couple of years' time. Then you could up the payments.

YeOldy · 03/08/2025 00:14

@FinancialThyme
You cannot be a legal owner of the house if you're not on the mortgage.
That’s not technically true in the UK. Most mortgage lenders won’t allow it but there are circumstances where it’s possible and where it happens.

4forksache · 03/08/2025 00:04

You say the deposit is yours and dp gets the mortgage in his name, then you can both be on the deeds.

Tell her that you want her to accept your choice of house and be happy for you. Tell her if she can’t do that then you don’t want the money. You need to decide yourself where and how you want to live.

LemondrizzleShark · 02/08/2025 23:56

AlloaintheMiddle · 02/08/2025 21:31

Sorry but why is the mortgage lower with you on it?

Because she isn’t working so is classed as a dependent. If she isn’t in the mortgage, she will be ignored. If she is on it, she won’t be.

We had the same situation with DH, who was self employed and couldn’t prove his income. So he isn’t on the deeds or mortgage.

Enrichetta · 02/08/2025 23:52

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/08/2025 22:16

If DM were to die within seven years of making the gift, you would be liable for inheritance tax on it. Worth considering if it is tied up ina non realisable asset like a house.

I thought inheritance tax gets charged to the estate.

Gingercatlover · 02/08/2025 23:45

What will you do if she decides she wants some of it back though? Would you be able to afford to just find the money, too many unanswered questions.

Theuntamed · 02/08/2025 22:36

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/08/2025 22:16

If DM were to die within seven years of making the gift, you would be liable for inheritance tax on it. Worth considering if it is tied up ina non realisable asset like a house.

Only if the estate is over the IHT limit though, most aren’t.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/08/2025 22:16

If DM were to die within seven years of making the gift, you would be liable for inheritance tax on it. Worth considering if it is tied up ina non realisable asset like a house.

Sortin · 02/08/2025 22:16

The solicitor will want to know where the deposit comes from and if it's a gift will want proof. A lender won't lend if it's a loan.

It's sad really. My DS is just buying a house and I'm so thrilled for him. I gave him the deposit years ago no strings attached.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 02/08/2025 22:09
  1. Do NOT accept this 'gift', too many controlling strings, not worth the hassle.
  2. Absolutely make sure YOUR NAME is on the mortgage. If it isn't, they won't put it on the Deeds either. The house will be in your DH's sole name. This puts you in a vulnerable position.

Who told you about borrowing less in joint names? Your DH or the broker? You need a different broker. I know a good one if you want to PM me for his details.

When my DH & I bought our first home together, I'd just started maternity leave. My DH had attended all the mortgage appointments as he did it away where he was working. When the Land Registry documents came through to sign, I queried with our Conveyancer why my name wasn't down. I only then found out that the mortgage advisor had decided by themselves that I wasn't worthy to have my name on the mortgage because I wasn't working (I'd literally finished working the week before, and was putting down a very hefty deposit to the house). I was pretty angry and made her add me to the mortgage, which delayed the move and really pissed her off. She made me out to be difficult. She hadn't explained to my husband either that she hadn't included me on the mortgage. She made me feel worthless, despite the fact I had been earning double what my husband earned until the week before. Don't let this happen to you.

FinancialThyme · 02/08/2025 22:09

Nina1013 · 02/08/2025 22:07

That was my point. It’ll be picked up post agreement in principle and kicked back.

Bank statements etc will all show she exists.

I know, I was agreeing and emphasising. You're right

Nina1013 · 02/08/2025 22:07

FinancialThyme · 02/08/2025 22:04

He's supporting her whether she's on the mortgage or not. If the intention is to pretend that OP doesn't exist at all and isn't financially reliant on her DH then that's mortgage fraud. It's a criminal offence and both of them would be in huge trouble.

That was my point. It’ll be picked up post agreement in principle and kicked back.

Bank statements etc will all show she exists.

Kelticgold · 02/08/2025 22:05

If she is so difficult, even if she lends you the money, then she would have to comply with AML regulations. Would she happily do that?

FinancialThyme · 02/08/2025 22:04

Nina1013 · 02/08/2025 21:41

In theory I understand what you’re saying - it lowers his borrowing because supporting 2 people on one salary is a bigger risk. However, I don’t think it’s likely he will get the mortgage through without you on it, because lenders generally like (insist) on both partners who will be living in the property to be on the mortgage. It may well be kicked back pre offer (post agreement in principle).

He's supporting her whether she's on the mortgage or not. If the intention is to pretend that OP doesn't exist at all and isn't financially reliant on her DH then that's mortgage fraud. It's a criminal offence and both of them would be in huge trouble.

Hollietree · 02/08/2025 22:03

When we were applying for mortgages recently, we could borrow less money if I was added to the mortgage. Sounds crazy but it’s not uncommon.

My Husband is a high earner and is 3 years younger than me. I earn a lower wage part-time. Because I am 3 years older they would only offer us a mortgage with a 3 year shorter term, than if my Husband applied for the mortgage in his name only. So applying together we could borrow less, have a shorter term and have higher monthly payments! Was a no brainer for the mortgage to be in his name only.

We have been married 20 years, have children together etc……so should we ever divorce I would still be entitled to 50% of the house.

Vaxtable · 02/08/2025 21:45

Don’t take the money, then decide if you can really afford this house, or continue to look

Just refuse the offer from your mum, and stop talking tp her about the houses you see/want until you have bought and are ready to move

Whistlingformysupper · 02/08/2025 21:42

Take the 50k but put it in a savings account and consider an offset mortgage so that it can reduce the interest you pay but still be there in case mil asks for it back.

parietal · 02/08/2025 21:42

This evening, tell her you want to get your paperwork in order for the house purchase. Ask her if the money is a gift with no strings attached, a loan or if she needs it back now. Whichever she picks, draw up a formal letter right there to agree the gift or loan. You need this for tax reasons anyway.

once it is written and agreed, you can hold her to the agreement. If you make a choice she doesn’t like, just say “isn’t it good that different people make different choices” or “well we can’t all be just like you”. Keep it breezy and move on.

Nina1013 · 02/08/2025 21:41

In theory I understand what you’re saying - it lowers his borrowing because supporting 2 people on one salary is a bigger risk. However, I don’t think it’s likely he will get the mortgage through without you on it, because lenders generally like (insist) on both partners who will be living in the property to be on the mortgage. It may well be kicked back pre offer (post agreement in principle).

Whistlingformysupper · 02/08/2025 21:41

OP the 50k aside - you need to ensure you are on the mortgage. Otherwise you won't be a legal owner of the property and will be in a very, very vulnerable position.
Who's told you they will lend less if you are not on it? I would not trust that and would be looking for another broker.
Tbh if you plan to return to work in the next year or two I'd wait to buy a property then when a second salary can be taken into account.

PricklyLikeCactus · 02/08/2025 21:41

Don’t buy it unless you’re on the mortgage and the deeds, for a start, are you mad?!
What your broker has said is not true. And buy it without needing your mum’s money if possible, then put her money into ISAs or other safe investment so that if she wants it back you aren’t struggling to repay, and if she doesn’t end up wanting it you could overpay the mortgage in the future.

samplesalequeen · 02/08/2025 21:40

I’d thank her for her generosity but decline the money.

She’ll never be happy with what you pick and I’d never trust that she wouldn’t ask for the money back.

LemonSqueezy0 · 02/08/2025 21:40

It would really piss me off to think she will comment on every little thing in your home, for the sake of £50k that you can actually get elsewhere
.. Look how she's been so far and she hasn't actually lent you anything yet... She will be relentless once you do actually ask for the money, and use the money. Imagine her commenting on everything from which way the toilet roll goes, to the sofa position, to the gardening....

That £50k will stick in your throat every day for the rest of her life. Is it really worth it?
The vague threat of it now being a loan, rather than a gift Is a huge red flag. Listen to your instincts...