To think that if it is illegal to use a mobile phone while driving a vehicle, it must be made illegal to push a pram?

The problem is that baby got hurt. You're not communicating this well. Obviously that mum is in real trouble, especially as child might have died. I do think it's stupid that parents in flimsy prams don't watch where they go, but problem here is that there was harm to baby. Not general usage of phones.

Yes, it is perfectly OK to push a pram and talk on the phone. Not that I actually did it really. My youngest is 23 now and so mobile phones were much more in their infancy when mine were that age.

It is also perfectly OK to use one while looking after a child, especially if you are in the house. Nobody ever questioned whether it was OK to use a landline phone with a child in the house. A mobile should be no different. Obviously you have to pay attention to what said child is doing and some people don't do so well at that.

Using a phone while driving is clearly illegal and fuckwitted.

I think anyone walking on the pavement glued to their fucking phone and completely oblivious to everyone else around them deserves to be bitch slapped. And please don't tell me they're all taking emergency calls about their dying grandmothers, having a mental health crisis or waiting for the 4 minute warning.

Well yes, I think it's pretty clear that that poster thinks it's okay to use a phone while pushing a pram. In fact, it's what most people on this thread things. Because, as @Stompythedinosaur points out in her post, we only legislate things for which there is significant evidence of notable potential harm. Which is not the case in the case of a pram, a parent and a phone.

well, I was walking holding DS once and I tripped. We both went down and and he had a black eye afterwards. I felt terrible. But it was a rare and unusual incident and did not stop me carrying him afterwards.

The pram hitting a bollardf thing sounds pretty bad, but that's got to be an extreme event surely. 99% of the time, there is little or no danger. If anything, it sounds to me like the mother didn't have the child strapped in very well.

This thread is bonkers 🤣

Are we just talking prams or are pushchairs and buggies included?

You’ve reminded me of the Rowan Atkinson sketch from the 80s, I think?, with the lamppost 😁

What about pushing a pram and listening to music on one Bluetooth headphone

Age 14 I was pushing my cousin’s pram and hit a bollard - I wasn’t on my phone but chasing away to baby cousin in his pram facing me, pulling silly faces as we walked to make him laugh. So by your theory, no talking at all should be the rule.

Honestly, I really think some people need a hobby away from judging others.

Absolutely

Yes, it is. That's why it's illegal to drive a vehicle with a blood alcohol level higher than x amount with consequences up to and including imprisonment, whilst it isn't illegal to be drunk in charge of a shopping trolley.

My ultimate pushchair bingo is pushing one in between 2 parked cars while on your phone in one hand and dragging another one behind happens more often than I thought possible

Actually the only reason most of them don't crash into things is because everyone else gets out of their way. They stare at their phone screens until the very last second and narrowly miss an impact on a regular basis.

A lot of pedestrians don't look where they are going because they are looking at their phones, so I can see the issue. If they are pushing a pram they are putting themselves and the child at risk.

The other advantage is that if you put your phone away, it won't get nicked.

No because most people are capable of talking and walking at the same time without crashing into things. The odd freak incident does not mean we need a new law.

Would you feel the same if the person was pushing a pram having a chat with another person walking with them? Surely that distraction is worse as they are talking, and also would be looking at the person they are talking to while walking. Or would you expect a mum and dad walking down the street to do so in silence and never make eye contact?

Taking this at face value and not for the crazy idea it actually is....

1. you are right, it is illegal to drive while holding your phone (you can still take calls though - on hands free) and the fact it is illegal doesn't stop people doing it sadly. Why would this law be any different?
2. what would the punishment be? For driving points on your licence, potentially even losing your licence. What would it be for someone pushing a pram while using a mobile phone? Would calls on hands feee be acceptable?? That happens far more than you will ever know due to headphones

what about other things that cause a lapse in concentration?

OP the problem is people being inattentive while pushing a pram FOR ANY REASON not just because they're on their phones!

People used to have pram accidents before mobile phones were even dreamt of. I wonder pre 1980 say how many children have been injured or killed because a person pushed a pram onto a road without paying attention to traffic? Quite a number I'll bet.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

Spot on. She has a rant about mobile phones in one of the posts.