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Was the ‘race card’ pulled??

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Glittercloud17 · 01/08/2025 20:14

So just got back from vacation. At the airport, my daughter and I were queuing for passport control when a girl/teen pushed past in front of us. 5 seconds later I heard a lady say to me “excuse me, we just want to join our niece” pointing to the girl who’d pushed in. Without focusing too much attention on her or the family, but seeing an additional 3 people (another teen and two women) I said “sorry, but that girl just shoved in, so maybe it’s better she joins you instead” (meaning the 1 girl who’d pushed in should join her family behind my daughter and I, and not the whole family move in front of my daughter and I.

The lady said “oh, I don’t think she pushed in, darling” in a clearly sarcastic tone, but I didn’t reply as the girl/teen then walked back to join her aunt behind us.

Then I heard the woman say to the girl “you know exactly why she thinks she needs to be in front of us, this is another example”. At this stage I assume she meant I felt entitled to say this because they were a family of colour! So instead of pulling up the teen for pushing past us, the adult put the responsibility of this situation on me, insinuating I was bullying them for racially motivated reasons!!

It hadn’t even crossed my mind that they were black/white/asian whatever family! Only that a person had pushed past my daughter and I and the family felt they then had a right to go in front.

Comments continued among the adults in the family to the teens around how this was another example why the teenagers had to be more assertive “in this world” and that I, “the lady” was in the wrong.

I didn’t react, or say anything as I didn’t want to escalate something that clearly wasn’t there, and continued to look in front (not in their direction) or be accused of anything especially in an airport with a flight to catch! Later after passport control, I was standing talking to my daughter when the other adult (who I hadn’t looked at previously) violently pushed into my back as they walked past. I was very shocked by this (again I brushed this off).

People who have genuinely experienced racism - was I unreasonable, and were they justified to jump to this conclusion? I understand there’s a long, complex history around race, but I am not aware, at least on a conscious level, of discriminating against anyone like this??

OP posts:
HollyGolightly4 · 02/08/2025 07:26

YABU for using the phrase 'race card' as many pp have posted.

Read Akala, Natives for an excellent explanation of why it's so problematic and what you could use instead.

Piglet89 · 02/08/2025 07:23

@GoodPudding is hitting the nail right on the head in this thread and saying what I want to about a million times more articulately.

Makingitupaswegoalong · 02/08/2025 07:22

It hadn’t even crossed my mind that they were black/white/asian whatever family

This strikes me as similar to “I don’t see colour”. I think we always see it, even if it doesn’t consciously register.

But even if she hadn’t pushed in (which she had!) it still wouldn’t be ok for a group of multiple people to join her? You don’t get to hold a space in a passport queue!

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 07:21

Empress13 · 02/08/2025 07:13

Would you have used the word Race Card if the family had been say German OP? Agree they were rude and you were right in what you did but to use that term is unacceptable

Well if the same implication was being made that the OP had reacted in the way she did because she was racist against Germans then presumably yes, but because Germans aren’t generally seen as a different “race” to ethnically English people then it would have been bizarre if someone had made that accusation.

Flatbellyfella · 02/08/2025 07:21

You did nothing wrong OP, they were just common ignorant bastards.

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 07:14

Unfounded accusations like this risk muddying the waters when actual situations of racism exist.

Absolutely, but the bigger problem is there are some that say you can’t even suggest that there were unfounded accusations, and that if someone feels that certain behaviour is “racist”, it is, by definition “racist”, because racism centres on someone’s subjective perception, irrespective of the objective reality of the situation.

It’s the same philosophy that lies behind the trans-movement, and the hyper-individualist view that “my reality” is necessarily the only reality that matters. It’s crazy that the Left has embraced this solipsistic self-absorbed philosophy, when it also purports to be communitarian.

Empress13 · 02/08/2025 07:13

Would you have used the word Race Card if the family had been say German OP? Agree they were rude and you were right in what you did but to use that term is unacceptable

Strictlymad · 02/08/2025 07:02

What a so and so she was! On the ‘race card’ terminology I’m happy to be corrected but my understanding is the expression ‘pulling the race card’ does sort of denote a game as it’s like this senario when the supposed ‘victim’ blames the op for being racist in the queue when actually they were just being cheeky! So they were finding racism to make the op look bad where there was no racism whatsoever. Of course pulling the race card is not an appropriate term when actual racism is present.

hobsandsprigs · 02/08/2025 06:58

Glittercloud17 · 01/08/2025 21:36

I “assume” as per original message. I don’t know what else it could be. She said you know why she wants to be in front of us (not you as in a teenager), then the other lady proceeded to push me when I hadn’t even communicated. Whatever the reason it was felt on a deeply personal level, and I can’t think of any other reason. Might you have a different idea?

I don’t know what else it could be.

And that my lovely is racist or at the least unconscious bias x

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 06:53

There are white people who are unpleasant and try to gain an advantage any way they can by lying, gaslighting and manipulating.

Because we are all human and have similar traits, black and people of colour are no different. They can lie, gaslight and manipulate too, and aren’t above using false accusations of racism as a means to an end, especially when there are some on the Left who enable this by accusing anyone who does try and call such behaviour out as being “racist” themselves.

For years, an accusation of racism was one of the worst things you could be accused of… one step up from being accused of being a pedophile. Unfortunately, some people, mostly those on the Left, realised this and attempted to apply the term much more widely, in an attempt to browbeat people into accepting their leftist agenda. Now the term “racist” is becoming devalued as it more and more becomes a general term of abuse that’s used to shut down legitimate debate. It’s losing its real meaning sadly.

Roberta5 · 02/08/2025 06:46

StrongasSixpence · 01/08/2025 23:53

The appropriate analogy here would be a woman claiming sexism when she was being justifiably pulled up for being in the wrong.

It happens. Twats exist in every group and sometimes pull whatever 'card' they can to excuse poor behaviour and claim victimhood.

Here's an example of a woman doing just that: BBC News - IT worker sues her boss believing 'xx' in email were kisses - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65632912?app-referrer=deep-link

Doesn't mean discrimination doesn't exist but cheeky fuckers also do.

what on earth have I just read!!! Absolutely nuts

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 06:38

WellIquitelikesprouts · 02/08/2025 06:19

Your language in talking about the ‘race card’ is racist.

Edited

Some people use accusations of racism as a tool to try and avoid accountability and blame and deflect from issues. It’s not racist to recognise this. The term “race card” is a just a way of expressing this in two words rather than ten.

Presuming that non-white people don’t ever engage in this behaviour, are never manipulative, and are always right, is delusional.

Calling people who recognise such behaviour “racist” and seek to express it, is another example of massive overreach by the Left that perversely stokes racial tensions by denying people the ability to call out inappropriate accusations of racism.

Piglet89 · 02/08/2025 06:38

@LadyKenyaas a feminist, I’ve absolutely no problem with the phrase “pulling the sexism card” being used if the allegations of sexism are completely unfounded, as the allegations of racism were in this situation.

From the situation the OP has described, a person pushed into a queue. OP and her family had an advantageous position ahead of her in the queue because OP had been waiting longer - not because they are white (I assume they are). Aye - jog on, Rosa Parks.

Unfounded accusations like this risk muddying the waters when actual situations of racism exist.

Mixedmix · 02/08/2025 06:35

nomas · 01/08/2025 20:22

YABU for using the phrase race card.

You met some twats, they exist in all races.

It is the race card. Speaking as someone who is mixed race.

TreatTreat · 02/08/2025 06:20

ThatRealLimeBee · 01/08/2025 20:23

Stop using the phrase “race card”. Racism is not a game and there are no cards to be “pulled.”

But surely then it's down to the people who use their race as a reason to wrongly accused people of being racist to them to put that damn race card away? I've also completely unjustifiably been accused of racism a few times and it was awful.

WellIquitelikesprouts · 02/08/2025 06:19

Your language in talking about the ‘race card’ is racist.

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 06:17

LadyKenya · 01/08/2025 20:46

And it is wrong to do so, and is used as a tool to minimise, or deny racism. Would Women be happy to be accused of pulling ' the sexist card' from Men, when calling out misogyny?

That’s a false equivalence… “pulling the race card” doesn’t mean calling out racism, it means using an accusation of racism to deflect from an issue or avoid blame.

EternalLodga · 02/08/2025 06:11

ThatRealLimeBee · 01/08/2025 20:23

Stop using the phrase “race card”. Racism is not a game and there are no cards to be “pulled.”

Stop policing people's language

Bread121bread · 02/08/2025 06:07

Glittercloud17 · 02/08/2025 06:01

Haha. Well you’re meeting one now!

Regardless, I’ve asked lots of people but haven’t had a single response. What can one say in place of this incorrect term?

You say the truth. You assumed they were implying that you are racist. I have no idea what they were implying. I wasn't there.

Ps I'm not saying you racist either. I don't even know you.

Glittercloud17 · 02/08/2025 06:01

MrsEverest · 02/08/2025 03:47

I’ve never met someone who actually uses the phrase ‘the race card’ who was not, in fact, a racist.

Haha. Well you’re meeting one now!

Regardless, I’ve asked lots of people but haven’t had a single response. What can one say in place of this incorrect term?

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Zanatdy · 02/08/2025 05:57

It’s frustrating when that happens. I was on the tube late last Sat night coming home from Oasis when some guy got on at a stop further along (so not been to the concert) and he must have knocked into a couple who were standing near the door. It was a busy carriage. The guy who got knocked into (white guy) shouted something about him being rude and it really escalated fast.

Other guy was gunning for a fight, shouting hit me, go on. I had 2 teen girls with me so tried to calm the guy down, to little avail. He then said ‘it’s because i’m not white’ which I found ridiculous as this guy would have no doubt said the same to anyone.

In the end the guys wife made him get off a stop early and catch the next tube which was very sensible. I was genuinely worried he was going to pull out a weapon as he was so gunning for a fight and so confident (this assumption had nothing to do with the colour of his skin, just based on how confident he seemed and really gunning for this guy to hit him.

This is why I don’t like being out late at night, especially with DD.

Bread121bread · 02/08/2025 05:41

Based on what you written it doesn't sound like they think she pushed passed you. So they might thing think you are the entitled one. As I myself have had people push me out of the way and when I stood my ground insist that I should go back to my family.

Sometimes, I stayed in the queue. Why should I let adults who pushed me win? Other times, I went back to my family as this was not a fight worthy of my time. I'm black and have a younger looking face.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbaam · 02/08/2025 05:29

While I dislike the term race card (or anything card, really), it could be that they’re from a culture where this is fairly normal - someone stands in the queue and then the rest join in later - although in their case they’re wrong by default for the simple fact she pushed in.

I think you did well in not giving them any ammunition to escalate. It’s a lot easier to just kill it from the start than having to explain what happened.

LordEmsworth · 02/08/2025 05:18

Glittercloud17 · 01/08/2025 21:44

Is there a better term one can use in its’ place? Genuine question.

There isn't a better term to use to express "was this person trying to gain an advantage by falsely accusing me of being racist", no.

Presumably something like "AiBU ot think this person was implying I am racist" would work if that's what you meant. It doesn't really need a phrase of its own, unless you think it's something that happens a lot therefore needs a pithy expression people can use to talk about it...

PruthePrune · 02/08/2025 05:12

Are you in the US OP? I'm asking because you said vacation.

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