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Was the ‘race card’ pulled??

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Glittercloud17 · 01/08/2025 20:14

So just got back from vacation. At the airport, my daughter and I were queuing for passport control when a girl/teen pushed past in front of us. 5 seconds later I heard a lady say to me “excuse me, we just want to join our niece” pointing to the girl who’d pushed in. Without focusing too much attention on her or the family, but seeing an additional 3 people (another teen and two women) I said “sorry, but that girl just shoved in, so maybe it’s better she joins you instead” (meaning the 1 girl who’d pushed in should join her family behind my daughter and I, and not the whole family move in front of my daughter and I.

The lady said “oh, I don’t think she pushed in, darling” in a clearly sarcastic tone, but I didn’t reply as the girl/teen then walked back to join her aunt behind us.

Then I heard the woman say to the girl “you know exactly why she thinks she needs to be in front of us, this is another example”. At this stage I assume she meant I felt entitled to say this because they were a family of colour! So instead of pulling up the teen for pushing past us, the adult put the responsibility of this situation on me, insinuating I was bullying them for racially motivated reasons!!

It hadn’t even crossed my mind that they were black/white/asian whatever family! Only that a person had pushed past my daughter and I and the family felt they then had a right to go in front.

Comments continued among the adults in the family to the teens around how this was another example why the teenagers had to be more assertive “in this world” and that I, “the lady” was in the wrong.

I didn’t react, or say anything as I didn’t want to escalate something that clearly wasn’t there, and continued to look in front (not in their direction) or be accused of anything especially in an airport with a flight to catch! Later after passport control, I was standing talking to my daughter when the other adult (who I hadn’t looked at previously) violently pushed into my back as they walked past. I was very shocked by this (again I brushed this off).

People who have genuinely experienced racism - was I unreasonable, and were they justified to jump to this conclusion? I understand there’s a long, complex history around race, but I am not aware, at least on a conscious level, of discriminating against anyone like this??

OP posts:
HollyGolightly4 · 02/08/2025 08:19

The OP asked where she could learn about this- I provided a credible resource. It's not about permitting someone to express the phenomenon, it was just the best explanation I've seen for it.

Language is important and it matters what people use and say. I think a thread like this is a good opportunity to learn.

"Playing the race card” is a loaded, dismissive phrase.

When people say “you’re playing the race card,” we implicitly suggest that their lived experience of discrimination is fake or opportunistic. That framing makes it harder for real grievances to be heard.

In this situation the OP seemingly dealt with some CFs who pushed in front of her- not at all a situation where discrimination applies.

Some alternative thread titles:

Accused of being racially biased after confronting a queue jumper.
Stopped a teenager from pushing in- family blamed racism.

This isn’t about suppressing speech, but about using language that doesn't undercut genuine grievances.

ChalkyChoc · 02/08/2025 08:19

OP, I would have said, ‘the family were unfairly accusing me of racism because I did not let them push in front of me’ or some such wording. The problem is that many racists use the phrase ‘race card’ and it diminishes the many genuine incidents of racism POC suffer. I don’t like the phrase I have to say.

This family sounds awful, esp pushing you. And it sounds like they indeed could have been accusing you of racism as their ‘pushing in plan’ failed. Idiots.

Akiraw · 02/08/2025 08:16

YANBU if it was as you’ve explained it.
But Ive met such people from all different race backgrounds.

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 08:13

friendshipover24 · 02/08/2025 08:00

Just because you are mixed race doesn’t mean you are right on this matter. Sorry.

But people who are mixed race (and any race) can understand that some people do exploit accusations of racism for their own benefit.

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 08:09

Glittercloud17 · 01/08/2025 21:44

Is there a better term one can use in its’ place? Genuine question.

Interesting that no one has suggested a better term to use….

Because then it’s not about the term, it’s about the concept. There is no correct term for this. It’s “not allowed”

We are apparently not allowed to believe that false accusations of racism can ever be made, and to even suggest this might have occurred, is “racism”. It’s gaslighting 101 from the Left… echoing direct from
the pages of Orwell’s 1984.

anotherside · 02/08/2025 08:09

We all know what OP means by the term, and while none of us were there, perhaps the bones of her accusation is correct. But the phrase she used is unpleasant and unhelpful.

“Pull the race card” is a very flippant/sarcastic use of language to make a pretty serious accusation around a serious topic. I think that’s why many people here are objecting to it. The words we use do matter - not as much as actions but sometimes not far off because words are simply thoughts written down and thoughts and words determine actions.

Dangermoo · 02/08/2025 08:00

Westfacing · 02/08/2025 07:54

At this stage I assume she meant I felt entitled to say this because they were a family of colour!

You 'assumed' - with no reason to in my opinion.

I re-read your OP in case I had missed something that the family had actually said but no, they made no reference to race, even obliquely.

Maybe you came over as hoity toity, although you were in the right over the queue jumping, and that's why they were making comments about being assertive, etc.

It is you who have pulled 'the race card' on this family of colour.

😆 🤣

friendshipover24 · 02/08/2025 08:00

Mixedmix · 02/08/2025 06:35

It is the race card. Speaking as someone who is mixed race.

Just because you are mixed race doesn’t mean you are right on this matter. Sorry.

Dangermoo · 02/08/2025 07:59

Glittercloud17 · 02/08/2025 06:01

Haha. Well you’re meeting one now!

Regardless, I’ve asked lots of people but haven’t had a single response. What can one say in place of this incorrect term?

It's just the usual liberals, being more concerned about the use of labels, than anything else. If they're not too busy throwing labels out themselves, they are clutching their pearls at situations being ascribed a label, that doesn't sit well with them.

anotherside · 02/08/2025 07:59

I’d think they were odd And nasty. Not sure calling it the “race card” as if that’s something that some people use every day is helpful or accurate. I’ve never had someone try to get ahead of me by dint of their race my whole life. Their behaviour was stupid, rude and aggressive.

Westfacing · 02/08/2025 07:54

At this stage I assume she meant I felt entitled to say this because they were a family of colour!

You 'assumed' - with no reason to in my opinion.

I re-read your OP in case I had missed something that the family had actually said but no, they made no reference to race, even obliquely.

Maybe you came over as hoity toity, although you were in the right over the queue jumping, and that's why they were making comments about being assertive, etc.

It is you who have pulled 'the race card' on this family of colour.

Heartofgoldheadofcabbage · 02/08/2025 07:51

Empress13 · 02/08/2025 07:13

Would you have used the word Race Card if the family had been say German OP? Agree they were rude and you were right in what you did but to use that term is unacceptable

This…

DollyPinkDaydream · 02/08/2025 07:50

Exactly the same thing happened to us on the train…Indian fella pushed past my husband to which he said “excuse me there’s a queue”. In our case it was a young white bystander who then accused DH of racism - er no he’s just been shoved out of the way by another individual, were we meant to ignore that because of the colour of his skin? I just don’t get it - we’ve lived and travelled extensively throughout Asia and India so horrified to be called racist, but can we no longer address poor manners anymore regardless of who demonstrates them?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/08/2025 07:46

You were very polite to them.
I don't think the phrase "race card" is very nice either, as you're white.
It is racist IMO.

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 07:46

HollyGolightly4 · 02/08/2025 07:26

YABU for using the phrase 'race card' as many pp have posted.

Read Akala, Natives for an excellent explanation of why it's so problematic and what you could use instead.

Asking people to read a whole book before they are permitted to express this phenomenon is completely unreasonable.

This attempt by the Left to excessively police language whenever someone attempts to discuss these things, and make people feel like they’re walking on egg-shells, worrying they’re going to tread on a metaphorical landmine at any moment, is authoritarian and controlling.

Let’s be honest here, the attempt by some to ban or shame the use of the term “race card”, with no attempt to provide a suitable alternative (and go away and read a book first isn’t an suitable alternative), is an attempt to suppress people’s ability to express their feelings in this area, all in the name of promoting a warped and distorted sense of racial justice that most people rightly reject.

Etincelle · 02/08/2025 07:45

They just sound like nasty people. If they were a similar type of person and were white they'd probably have said "She's a stuck up bitch/fat C who thinks she's better than us so needs to be in front of us." It's just an irrational logic that people like that would use

nomas · 02/08/2025 07:44

Mixedmix · 02/08/2025 06:35

It is the race card. Speaking as someone who is mixed race.

Being mixed race doesn’t make anyone an authority Hmm

Jujujudo · 02/08/2025 07:43

ThatRealLimeBee · 01/08/2025 20:23

Stop using the phrase “race card”. Racism is not a game and there are no cards to be “pulled.”

Are you a POC?

nomas · 02/08/2025 07:43

Piglet89 · 02/08/2025 06:38

@LadyKenyaas a feminist, I’ve absolutely no problem with the phrase “pulling the sexism card” being used if the allegations of sexism are completely unfounded, as the allegations of racism were in this situation.

From the situation the OP has described, a person pushed into a queue. OP and her family had an advantageous position ahead of her in the queue because OP had been waiting longer - not because they are white (I assume they are). Aye - jog on, Rosa Parks.

Unfounded accusations like this risk muddying the waters when actual situations of racism exist.

Edited

Unfounded accusations like this risk muddying the waters when actual situations of racism exist.

OP’s accusation is also unfounded. None of us were there..

Panterusblackish · 02/08/2025 07:43

friendshipover24 · 02/08/2025 00:08

There is no race card. YABVU to use this phrase and it makes me automatically think that you are in the wrong/have some form of unconscious or conscious bias because only a certain type of person uses this phrase. There are assholes in all the different demographics which exist. 🙄

Get a grip, it's been a widely accepted parlance for years.

Not everyone can keep up with you dear.

The OP has been told that some people no longer find it acceptable. Now it's up to her whether the word of some people on mumsnet policing her speech is enough to make her reconsider.

Saying she must be the one in the wrong or biased because you have presumed she is white is an excellent example of actual rascism, whereas the people in the airport were simply common or garden CFs.

Brainworm · 02/08/2025 07:42

People from minoratised groups can wrongly perceive racial discrimination because of past experiences of actually being discriminated against.

Some people may use their status as belonging to a minoratised to try and gain advantage.

I think ‘the race card’ refers to the second scenario and whilst I don’t think it’s an inference that can be dismissed entirely, I think the first (thinking this way because past experience) is most likely.

The above applies to all minoratised groups, including women. In my working environment, I often attribute men talking over me, interrupting me, or discounting my contribution as arising from sexism. I expect that on many occasions this is what is happening. I expect on some, they are doing this for reasons that are unrelated to my sex.

Ideally, people should remain open to there being wide ranging reasons for the behaviour of others. In reality, humans are sensitive to patterns, and develop automatic responses based upon previous experience.

I don’t think this provides ‘an excuse’ or ‘defence’ for people getting it wrong, especially when they ‘call out’ discrimination as if it’s fact without evidence of this being the case. In today’s society, there can be very serious consequences for being on the receiving end of such accusations. I know that some people think this is a good thing for combatting discrimination, but I don’t. Fear of wrongful accusation brings about defensive reactions and entrenchment and gets in the way of reflection and learning. The same thing arises with generalisations about ‘privilege’ and ‘disadvantage’. Holding on to over-generalised and fixed ideas about who is advantaged and disadvantaged doesn’t help anyone.

brunettemic · 02/08/2025 07:41

You’ve jumped to that conclusion, which does actually imply a natural level of bias in your view (no, I’m not saying you’re racist!). I read it as the person saying you’re implying that because they’re a teenager they’ve obviously pushed in.

RhaenysRocks · 02/08/2025 07:39

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 06:17

That’s a false equivalence… “pulling the race card” doesn’t mean calling out racism, it means using an accusation of racism to deflect from an issue or avoid blame.

Quite. Very early on in my teaching career I got into a situation with a teen who was black. That was an entirely irrelevant fact until I moved him to sit at the front because he was dicking about at the back. He complained I was picking on him "because he was black" and this was when "if someone perceives something as racist then it is". I had to fight hard and get union involvement to stop that being recorded on my work file as racist incident. No one on here is denying for a moment that racism exists but it can also be true that some people in any group will be arseholes and do as I and others have described. Women, teens, older people, disabled people..all absolutely in need of protection from discrimination but also possible for them to use their characteristic to try and gain and advantage. Both can be true.

Empress13 · 02/08/2025 07:36

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 07:21

Well if the same implication was being made that the OP had reacted in the way she did because she was racist against Germans then presumably yes, but because Germans aren’t generally seen as a different “race” to ethnically English people then it would have been bizarre if someone had made that accusation.

You are missing my point the OP was saying the term race card because I’m presuming it was because the family were black she would not have used the term had the family been white. Maybe I shouldn’t have used German as an example I agree

GoodPudding · 02/08/2025 07:29

Of course pulling the race card is not an appropriate term when actual racism is present.

But the craziness of the Left is the belief that we must always accept that there is actual racism whenever there is an accusation of racism.

And to suggest that there may
not have been racism, or that the accusation of as false, is itself “racist”!

It’s madness… and thankfully people are calling it out more and more for being the utter gaslighting bullshit that it is.