To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

Sexism isn't just verbal
The entire world of work is designed for men.
Ergonomics for example
The desk spacing and heights, temperatures, hours are all based on men's needs
Not womens
Car safety
Based on men's needs

And on it goes ...

First rule of misogyny in the very first post OP. It's always the woman's fault.

Never mind the massive weight of social conditioning and patriarchy, the never ending expectations of availability, attractiveness and kindness. We just do it to ourselves apparently 😂

Given that the most managers are still men I'm not sure why you think they couldn't manage a household. It is not very much different to running a pub or a shop of a business.

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Not here. I went away with friends for a week then got quite bad Covid so was in bed 2 weeks so out of action for 3 weeks. Dh was fine he was actually better at getting the two than mid teens to do more. Their diet was abit odd but not too bad.

I actually feel a little sad that front line infantry is considered the life of an average man for the life of the average women to "compete' against. Which is how some of this comes across.

There is always war going on somewhere in the globe, apparently 58 conflicts right now (in 35 countries) but I dont want this to be the average man's experience. I have two sons, I want to believe its an outlier experience. I'd rather the average man had a fullfilling family life, hobbies and honest work that paid fairly.

Exactly!
Most women wouldn't last a week living like an average man!

No chance if you're talking infantry roles. Very few women would have the strength to slog for miles carrying heavy backpacks etc. But ultimately it'd never happen because they'd kick up such a stink the men would absolve them of the responsibility. You only have to look to the reactions when it was proposed in the US.

I'm not going to deny that lots of women have to face stuff that men don't, but if I answer for myself, YABU tbh. I only carried more of the load when I was a SAHM or very part time. Dh's job was far, far harder than my life at that point. If we'd swapped roles, he'd have been fine. I'd have seriously struggled.

YABU. I actually wouldn’t swap lives with my DH in a million years. I adore all aspects of caring for my own beloved children at home and home-making (cleaning, gardening, organising, admin, Christmas- I absolutely adore all aspects of occasion planning and delivering!). I’m living my dream life!

Slight derailment, but if conscription ever happened again in this country surely fifty percent of the people conscripted and sent to the front line in the infantry would be women?

To think the endless martyring gets boring, no women are not saints just because they exist but it seems being a woman is becoming like being a vegan, how do you know someone is a woman? You dont need too they tell you all about it

Men would manage perfectly fine like women there are 'normal' men and women who just get on witj things and dont spend their whole lives complaining about how hard done by they are

Woman constantly whinge about men and how they cant live with them then get hysterical when the man wants to leave and then moves the next one in because they cant live without one but still enjoy complaining about them

To think there will be another man hating one tomorrow though

From some of the debates I've watched the average American feminist seems to have no idea that all American men need to sign up to the draft to get the state benefits women get for free. It's actually an offence not to.

Yeah, there hasn't been a draft in years. But if there is a lot of men will find they've signed on the dotted line. It's the principle of this that would annoy me as a man. Even if this system was driven by men you can bet that a lot of men wouldn't want to be conscripted.

And look at Ukraine. There must be loads of former IT professionals, businessmen etc now out there on the frontline with a rifle in their hands. That's the stuff of nightmares. Being captured by the Russians and tortured to death etc.

I've refused to do all "life work" in my partnership and my husband does the majority of the life admin, childcare, cooking and housework for our family.

I've still dealt with crippling periods, been left bedbound in pain in pregnancy, had childbirth with cuts/interventions etc without pain relief and doctors held me down to do these things without my consent, which have left me physically scarred etc. I've also experienced sex discrimination at work (which I fought back against at the time).

Even without taking on any of the mental load (which I admit is quite unusual as most women do) my life has still been quite a bit harder than my brothers and my husbands just because of my sex. I think this is probably true for a lot of women.

Certainly a lot of single men seem to be able to manage it all and still be extremely successful.

To be fair, I don't do birthday or Christmas cards either.
This is the kind of optional extra that women often opt to do adding to what they call 'life admin'. All these little things add up and start to cause stress resulting in posts like these.

What utter and total garbage. These sorts of posts absolutely baffle me. The constant need for competition and proving one or other is “better” is so counter productive.

I absolutely couldn’t do it all myself but I’d just do it differently if I had to, I’m sure DH would be the same. I’d definitely cook far inferior food to our daily meals now, clothes would be ironed in a rush in the morning and it would be a huge struggle to manage the kids activities how he does it. Equally he’d probably end up having to do emergency clothes washes or would clean in one big blitz. Christmas and birthdays would be stressful for me, I’d get it done but he takes sorting those things in his stride.
etc etc etc etc, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Depends on the man.

I couldn’t spend a year doing what DH does. His job is hugely stressful and all consuming. I don’t know he shoulders it for a week, never mind the last 20 years.

And no, the reason he copes isn’t because I pick up everything for him. I have a full time job and career too and broadly share household tasks and childcare.

Everyone is different and men are as varied as women.

And likewise for the most successful women I know. They all are either single, childless and are very invested in their careers. Or they have a spouse who has stepped back and essentially supports their career moves.

What planet did you come from? You think the woman doesn't ask herself these questions as a SAHM? Do you realise that every working person not in a partnership asks themselves this?

There are lots of non physical jobs. I almost took an engineering safety manager type job on a rig but decided it wouldn't be a great environment.

Its hard because the hours are very long and trying. Being away from home for long spells is shit. The shifts can be tedious too.

oil rig worker
7 days 7 nights 2 weeks off. (12hr shifts)
normally good food, not so good accommodation, decent tv. well paid if you can deal with the mental stress of being out in the middle of nowhere and being away from family and friends for that long.
High pressure, high risk job.
I have seen it destroy many marriages.

Of course they'd cope. What martyr bullshit. Stop creating work for yourself and start having proper boundaries.

Ive always wondered what jobs there are on an oil rig? Are they all big physical jobs, or is there data jobs , ones where the equipment does the heavy work, cooks, medics etc out there too. Is it the being away that makes it hard, or weather or risk. I genuinely dont know.

I wouldn't like being away from my family, but then I know women who do care work (which is physical in its own way) and they are from the Philippines and send money home to thier children, who live with gran. They might not see them for a year or two. The often live over crowded and even hot bed to reduce costs, so one sleeps whilst another is on shift.

Clearly you've never met a working single mum then? Where do you live?