To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

The dated views are those who are happy for their husbands to rule their roost while they clean it all day.

That’s the history that actually happened.

How can you genuinely not see it as backwards.

In the “good old days” women couldn’t;

• Have access to contraception
• Take paid maternity leave
• Apply for loans or credit in their own names
• Pay their own taxes (if they did work)
• Couldn’t be raped by their husband, as marital rape wasn’t outlawed
• Access any form of women’s refuge

They could however tidy round the house and bake. So that’s good. Let’s go back to then.

You don’t get to dictate to women that they are ‘letting the side down.’ Women are far from being all the same. Plenty of women are happiest at home, especially if they have children. You are free to do what you want here in the UK- you should be thanking those of us who are completely disinterested in the modern workplace freeing up more jobs and opportunities for you! Take them! Take some responsibility for you own life- you have the freedom to succeed here in the UK. Nobody is stopping you.

the day we have equality is when man, or woman, can stay at home without people with dated views claiming it's an inferior situation.

It's even worst when they are children involved, and some narrow minded people try to claim that everybody should use childcare and jump straight back to work just because.

You would think in 2025 we've gone past that stage, but sadly some are still stuck in the past.

I can't see that because it's not my experience.

Housewives don't have any impact on my professional career, but then I don't need excuses or blame stereotypes or play the victim game to go further in my career. I am being taken seriously in my own right, my abilities have never been impacted by other women decisions and life choices. Interesting that you think yours is? It might say more about you as a person than you think.

needing a man to pay the bills is such a ridiculous and reductive way to describe a family situation. Trying to look down at women who prefers to spend time with their family is pathetic.

Women strong enough to live their life without feeling oppressed or ridiculed by narrow-minded people trying to push their own expectations are not the one letting the side down, people like you are.

As far as I am concerned, anyone trying to tell me and my sisters than we should live a certain way because "we are female" can piss off. Frankly, if someone decide not to work a day in their life and their partner is happy to work and take care of the financial aspects? Well good for them.

If everyone wanted to be a "high profile high achieving career woman/man" bollocks, then there would be no one to mind my kids when I am at work for a start .

t's bloody boring and unfulfilling.
I pity you if you can't find anything interesting to do in your life and need someone to take your hand to take you outside 😂. Your poor child cooped inside because his mum couldn't manage alone, that is sad.

Lol. I'm not trying to force women to act in any way.

I'm simply sharing my belief that if women won't equality they won't find it in the kitchen.

You clearly don't grasp that independent women who want to be treated equally disapprove if fawning house wives or the maiden in distress types become it makes women as a sex class look stupid and incapable and makes the fight to be seen as equals so much harder.

Feeding into the stereotypes of damsels in distress and needing a man to pay the bills and belonging in the kitchen make it harder for other women to be taken seriously and break free of those stereotypes.

My life is bloody wonderful, I am not jealous of a housewife, I did it for a while while on maternity leave and it's bloody boring and unfulfilling. I have an adventurous personality I hate being cooped up inside. I also take pride in knowing I earned everything I have and it's mine and mine alone. I resent women letting the side down when we're working so hard to break free of the stereotypes and expectations put on women.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.

If men had periods they'd have five days a month off sick AAND spend those days in bed expecting to be cossetted.

forcing a woman to do anything is oppressing, you seem to miss that bit.

So you trying to force women to act the way you think they should act is trying to oppress them. You won't have a chance in hell to succeed, but being so narrow-minded is not helping anyone or defending women in any way.

You are absolutely right, men couldn’t give a flying fuck about that shit, and I think that’s brilliant.
Women are dicks such an enormous amount of the time, If they haven’t got something to moan about, they will moan anyway.

You can't claim that forcing a woman to have independence is oppressing her that's just stupid.

My grandmother tells me horrendous stories of what was normal for women to endure in the 50s and regularly tells me how lucky she was because grandad never hit her and actually asked for her opinion on when they would have children, both of which was rare in those days. You can keep the bloody fifties thanks!

because what else than jealousy is there?

If not jealous, why being so negative? If you have not some bitterness eating you up, why do you even care?

Happy people are not judgmental and negative.

Not everyone who disapproves of your choices why do you even have an opinion on something that has nothing to do with you, and a stranger you don't know? If Brenda is cooking a hot breakfast for her husband every day, or going to the gym to tone up, or rushing to be at her desk at 6am, it affects you not one little bit 😂 WHY could you possibly "disapprove"? What business is it of yours?

Why do women always jump straight to "they're jealous!" Whenever other women are giving negative views about something? It's so childish! It's like the ten year old girls in playgrounds shouting "he's only mean because he fancies you!"

No, not everyone who disapproves of your choices is jealous of you, most of them do just disapprove.

if you read the number of threads on MN about women fretting about their house becoming "visitor-ready", I am not so sure... 😂
And we're talking about working women here.

It's not "patriarchy" the problem with so many women, it's their insane need to compete with the Joneses. I rarely hear a man, living alone or single, let alone in a couple, worrying about the dust on their skirting board - and they don't start theads about them

YOU translate it as oppression, you are confusing your opinion with facts.

Who cares if someone is proud of their "domestic haven" or proud of their baking skills? I am sure the winner of bake-off makes a few bucks in the process 😂

You are not dragged back into anything, YOU are trying to drag us back into a one-fit all and not allowing women to make their own decision.

YOU don't get to decide what "oppression" is. You can turn it around and saying that a man who forces you to work out of the house and earning your keep is the one oppressing you... see how that work?

And my grand-mother never felt once oppressed in the 50s...HTH 😂

All I have to say about that is there is a world outside the home. Go find it!

No one lies on their deathbed regaling tales of their hoovering skills 🙄

I think most men wouldn’t make the same choices women make.…..in that scenario there wouldn’t be anyone there pressuring them to make those decisions either!!!!! So I don’t think they’d find themselves stuck between the rock and hard place many many women are.

Absolutely loving and respecting the cleanliness, tidiness, order and harmony of your home is a beautiful thing. I never, ever lived in a dirty home, regardless of whether I was working or at home.

Stacey Solomon is a successful career woman, but she is also an exceptional homemaker. She is extremely domestically talented, and adored by the housewife community. She also shows nothing but respect for full time homemakers.

Mrs Hinch is also much loved by the homemaking community. She is again so domestically talented, and clearly does it for the sheer, intrinsic joy of it, not just the money she makes from it.

I would love to spend a day in either Stacey or Sophie’s homes, I would love to learn more from them. So hugely inspiring!

Anyone who has a home can be inspired to expand their repertoire of home making skills 😊

Oh dear.

I failed.

Posts like this absolutely smack of misandry.

Trust me, I’m not unhappy that my partner knows how to do his fair share of running the home he lives in.

I’m not unhappy to earn my own money instead of spending his, I’m not unhappy to not do all the admin, and I’m not unhappy that I’m not tied to the kitchen sink.

I would genuinely not be fulfilled by staying at home all day tidying up.

If it’s easier for you to believe otherwise though 🤷🏻‍♀️

I am quite judgmental of women who still see their home as “their domestic haven,” yes, because that’s the outdated view.

It’s an outdated view that fed into the oppression of women, the belief that their place is in the kitchen. I judge any woman who essentially responds to that with “Yes! I do belong in the kitchen, actually.”

We have thankfully moved forward from that, and I’m not happy to be dragged back into it by trad wives wanting to escape to some fake idyllic past.

To be clear - SAHP, of any sex, isn’t my issue.

My issue is the extremity of that, which this poster is showing by literally saying the past was a better time. It wasn’t a better time for women, it was a better time for men.

Women in their 30’s desiring to be oppressed in the 1950’s is nonsense, and I won’t apologise for seeing it as such.

Let's be honest, people are only negative about others when they have a problem with their own life.

Telling women (usually women) to be careful and ensure they have some financial independence so they can face anything is normal. Accidents, divorce, death, redundancy, illness.. don't just happen to "someone else" unfortunately.

Ranting that someone is inferior because you don't agree with their lifestyle choice? means you are not so happy with your own and there's a bit of jealousy there 😂

you must have such a low self-estime if you think you only exist through your little job, and only having your little 9 to 5 is a valid contribution.

Hopefully when you grow up a bit you will expand your horizons a bit more and realise that there are so many different kind of "ambitions" and independence.

You are the one keeping us behind with your attitude, that's what you are spectacularly missing.

Fair enough to have your own path, but who are you to decide you are superior?
I assure you , you are not, and I don't even know what job you do and how much more or less you are paid compared to me!

If you post it on here, you automatically make it people's business.

Was just thinking today what use would a man be to me. I’m in my 50s and separated and people keep asking me would I consider dating and I just think ewww no. I just don’t know any men that would bring value to my life. Sad isn’t it. There must be some surely?? Any men I know are big “man babies” and I just don’t ever want one of those again so I realise how much I pushed down my own personality as well - trying to fit in with his likes and dislikes. Sometimes I wish I was a lesbian. Women just seem a lot more “evolved” ???!!!