To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

million of people all over the world do not PRIORITISE their hobbies and leisure when they have children to raise and a full time job. Don't be so ridiculous.

If you were prioritising your hobbies, then working an 8-10 hours normal job, you would be a pretty crap parent for a start.

I am happy to pay for cleaner/ gardener/ window cleaner like most people because I can't magic extra time, so what. I don't resent people who do everything themselves, why would I, and more importantly, why do you?

Absolutely. Pretty much everyone I know manages it.

There's no way you can have a full time job, look after your children, AND prioritise your hobbies. You can be as efficient as you want, when you work 8-10 hours a day, and have a family life, something got to give.

lol, of course you can. Millions of people all over the world manage it every single day.

It's only on social media that basic daily activities seem to be turned into some massive task that needs hours of your dedicated attention.

Call bullshit all you like but you don’t know my life or how I organise it.

And who said I resent anyone? I don’t.

Exactly. Outside of social media, most people seem to be able to work, raise kids, walk the dog, do housework and socialise without a need for all the drama. It's just basic day-to-day life.

I call bullshit.

There's no way you can have a full time job, look after your children, AND prioritise your hobbies. You can be as efficient as you want, when you work 8-10 hours a day, and have a family life, something got to give.

The difference between you and me is that I don't resent people who prioritise their hobbies. Good for them.

Yeah I manage all of these AND work full time. So does my DH.

I don’t ever want to be described as a ‘diligent housewife’.

I was just about to say similar.

All that christmas nonsense, men simply wouldn't do it. And a lot of other stuff we insist on thats totally unnecessary they wouldn't do either. And the world would keep turning.

Yeah I manage all of these AND work full time. So does my DH.

I don’t ever want to be described as a ‘diligent housewife’.

It affects me because there is absolutely no way every housewife's husband pays enough tax for four people to be net contributers and not drains on society. Our country is in the state it is because too many are taking and not putting enough in.

It's a really basic concept that in the UK at least that there is pride in paying your way and shame in letting everyone else pay for you. As an adult of working age it is your duty to earn your keep because the children and old people can't do that. If half the working age adults are economically inactive too you end up where we are right now as a nation. So yes, I want people to actually contribute to the state because they live here. I don't think that is remotely radical.

Actually thinking it is only mens responsibility to pay for everything is deeply regressive and misandrist. And society would never accept men diligently house husbanding away while their wife works and pays for everything. There's your sexism. Until men are not judged for not paying their way, women should get to work and pay their way too, there's your equality!

Ps. Education training and skills are wasted if you're not using them on something productive. A degree in physics is wasted if you spend the rest of your life baking. You wasted your time and the tax payers money or whoever else's money paid for your degree if you don't use it. I'm not insecure, I resent people taking a free ride and calling it 'progressive'. Nothing about idolising the 50s is progressive.

You sound interested in what being a ‘diligent housewife’ entails. Basically the following (which are positive!);

• Putting your children and husband first in any decision you make, as does your DH. Asking yourself: Who does this really benefit? Your own family comes first, always, every time.
• Not bad mouthing your DH and DCs at any given opportunity. Praising and celebrating their qualities and achievements.
• Ensuring your home runs efficiently. Really getting to know the needs of your individual home and garden. I’m all about efficiency- I know exactly how often each cleaning/maintenance task needs doing. This actually saves you a load of time in the long run.
• Diligently volunteering whatever time you can at your DCs schools, for counselling style charities, actively running errands for extended family members, neighbours and other parents. Ideally living close to both sides of the family. Studying things that interest you.
• Hosting often. Warmly welcoming family and friends, anticipating and thoughtfully meeting their needs. I delight in hosting vegetarians, vegans, nut allergy sufferers, friends who have different cultural dietary needs, etc. I will joyfully adapt my menus and remember their preferences.
• Freeing up evenings and weekends for date nights and adventurous days out (who said a housewife doesn’t like adventures or travelling the world? Many travel more extensively than the average person with their DHs on international business, particularly those without children yet).
• Prioritising hobbies and leisure activities. Not treating these as an after thought.
• Never leaving the house in PJs!!!

Great to hear you are embracing core home making tasks- there is no shame in understanding and embracing these tasks and describing them for what they are 😊

Is that it? I am the least housewifely person I know and I still tick many of those boxes.

Putting family first - if your husband does it too it's not a specific housewife role, just what people who live together do.

Not slagging them off - ideally you'd actually like the person you married so this should be a given (again it's not exactly a task, is it).

I don't give much headspace to housework at all but I still know how long hoovering and cleaning takes. I know this precisely because I don't want to think about it for any longer than is necessary.

I don't have children but I volunteer, campaign and protest for causes I care about. This doesn't seem housewife-specific either.

"Joyfully" adapting menus made me laugh but hosting people for dinners, parties and dinner parties is something my friends and I have done since our houseshare days. I don't associate it with housewives either.

Nights out and days out and holidays are again things that everyone can do, not just housewives.

I definitely prioritise leisure activities! That's why I didn't have children!

I've never left the house in PJs though I do pretty much live in athleisure.

On top of all of this I still have a career and earn my own money and like I said, waste as little of my thought on homemaking and housework as I can.

It affects me because there is absolutely no way every housewife's husband pays enough tax for four people to be net contributers and not drains on society. Our country is in the state it is because too many are taking and not putting enough in.

It's a really basic concept that in the UK at least that there is pride in paying your way and shame in letting everyone else pay for you. As an adult of working age it is your duty to earn your keep because the children and old people can't do that. If half the working age adults are economically inactive too you end up where we are right now as a nation. So yes, I want people to actually contribute to the state because they live here. I don't think that is remotely radical.

Actually thinking it is only mens responsibility to pay for everything is deeply regressive and misandrist. And society would never accept men diligently house husbanding away while their wife works and pays for everything. There's your sexism. Until men are not judged for not paying their way, women should get to work and pay their way too, there's your equality!

Ps. Education training and skills are wasted if you're not using them on something productive. A degree in physics is wasted if you spend the rest of your life baking. You wasted your time and the tax payers money or whoever else's money paid for your degree if you don't use it. I'm not insecure, I resent people taking a free ride and calling it 'progressive'. Nothing about idolising the 50s is progressive.

Bloody hell. You know that most women manage these things whilst also working right?

The misogyny is in seeing these things a woman's priority. They are basic responsibilities everybody both male and female have.

Is that it? I am the least housewifely person I know and I still tick many of those boxes.

Putting family first - if your husband does it too it's not a specific housewife role, just what people who live together do.

Not slagging them off - ideally you'd actually like the person you married so this should be a given (again it's not exactly a task, is it).

I don't give much headspace to housework at all but I still know how long hoovering and cleaning takes. I know this precisely because I don't want to think about it for any longer than is necessary.

I don't have children but I volunteer, campaign and protest for causes I care about. This doesn't seem housewife-specific either.

"Joyfully" adapting menus made me laugh but hosting people for dinners, parties and dinner parties is something my friends and I have done since our houseshare days. I don't associate it with housewives either.

Nights out and days out and holidays are again things that everyone can do, not just housewives.

I definitely prioritise leisure activities! That's why I didn't have children!

I've never left the house in PJs though I do pretty much live in athleisure.

On top of all of this I still have a career and earn my own money and like I said, waste as little of my thought on homemaking and housework as I can.

You sound interested in what being a ‘diligent housewife’ entails. Basically the following (which are positive!);

• Putting your children and husband first in any decision you make, as does your DH. Asking yourself: Who does this really benefit? Your own family comes first, always, every time.
• Not bad mouthing your DH and DCs at any given opportunity. Praising and celebrating their qualities and achievements.
• Ensuring your home runs efficiently. Really getting to know the needs of your individual home and garden. I’m all about efficiency- I know exactly how often each cleaning/maintenance task needs doing. This actually saves you a load of time in the long run.
• Diligently volunteering whatever time you can at your DCs schools, for counselling style charities, actively running errands for extended family members, neighbours and other parents. Ideally living close to both sides of the family. Studying things that interest you.
• Hosting often. Warmly welcoming family and friends, anticipating and thoughtfully meeting their needs. I delight in hosting vegetarians, vegans, nut allergy sufferers, friends who have different cultural dietary needs, etc. I will joyfully adapt my menus and remember their preferences.
• Freeing up evenings and weekends for date nights and adventurous days out (who said a housewife doesn’t like adventures or travelling the world? Many travel more extensively than the average person with their DHs on international business, particularly those without children yet).
• Prioritising hobbies and leisure activities. Not treating these as an after thought.
• Never leaving the house in PJs!!!

again, we are also free to judge and think that these women are letting the side down!

yes, you are free to judge, but what "side"? you are the one "letting the side down" by pretending you should have a say on how women live their life.

Are you so insecure you need other women to do the same as you? Why does it make you so uncomfortable that someone has another lifestyle? How can it possibly affect you?

People don't need a paycheck to use their social skills, and access training and education, improve their intelligence and so on, but if your identity is so linked with your job, it's your choice. Is it what what makes you so unhappy: to see people just as educated, interesting, confident, busy and active but who couldn't care less about a job title?

Well they survived years in the trenches at war so we could have freedom.

You sound interested in what being a ‘diligent housewife’ entails. Basically the following (which are positive!);

• Putting your children and husband first in any decision you make, as does your DH. Asking yourself: Who does this really benefit? Your own family comes first, always, every time.
• Not bad mouthing your DH and DCs at any given opportunity. Praising and celebrating their qualities and achievements.
• Ensuring your home runs efficiently. Really getting to know the needs of your individual home and garden. I’m all about efficiency- I know exactly how often each cleaning/maintenance task needs doing. This actually saves you a load of time in the long run.
• Diligently volunteering whatever time you can at your DCs schools, for counselling style charities, actively running errands for extended family members, neighbours and other parents. Ideally living close to both sides of the family. Studying things that interest you.
• Hosting often. Warmly welcoming family and friends, anticipating and thoughtfully meeting their needs. I delight in hosting vegetarians, vegans, nut allergy sufferers, friends who have different cultural dietary needs, etc. I will joyfully adapt my menus and remember their preferences.
• Freeing up evenings and weekends for date nights and adventurous days out (who said a housewife doesn’t like adventures or travelling the world? Many travel more extensively than the average person with their DHs on international business, particularly those without children yet).
• Prioritising hobbies and leisure activities. Not treating these as an after thought.
• Never leaving the house in PJs!!!