To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

Because I am sick of people lying and saying I do that! I do everything you do! No you do not.

Yes we do!
When was the last time you personally emptied every single kitchen cupboard and properly disinfected them? Steam cleaned your microwave? Disinfected the inside of your fridge? Took down every intricate light shade and cleaned them? Cleaned every curtain and blind? Dusted inside your radiators? Cleaned your air vents? Cleaned all your electronic products? Washed down your front and back door?
This weekend.
Washed your wheelie bins?
DH and DS did that a couple of weeks ago while cleaning the cars.
Swept, scrubbed and re-painted your fences?
Don’t have a fence. DH does the garden regularly though.

Replaced all bedding, towels and tea towels
Bedding gets washed weekly. Towels and Tea towels are washed regularly/replaced regularly- we share that job.

Seasonally rotated all your home furnishings and accessories? Rotated and deep cleaned your mattresses?
When required, yes.

Binned every outdated medicine/beauty product in the house? Washed all your make up brushes?
Again, regularly.
Emptied your loft and decluttered?
only just moved in the the decluttering happened then.

Emptied out and reorganised your whole shed?
Don’t have a shed but DH does the garage.

Washed and hoovered your own car?
Regularly, when the weather is good enough (DH and DS do this)

Wrote personal thank you cards and helped your DCs make and write them?
We’re a crafty family so do this type of thing all the time.

The difference is that I share household tasks with DH. That’s how working parents manage to do everything you do on your own.

You seem to be under the impression that working parents live in squalor. Stop being so fucking judgemental. Own your choices and stop trying to make yourself feel better by putting other women down.

The way it's descended into a bun fight over how often women seasonally rotate all the home furnishings and accessories is classic MN.

That aside, I still can't get over the voting. No wonder some men think women are a joke.

On the mum guilt topic...

I provide half the roof over my daughters head, I provide her food and clothes and I provide her dance lessons which she loves. I also provide a her pony, taught her to ride my horse and she spent all of her baby days out in the fresh air giggling at the horses while I worked with her in the sling to look after them. We ride together several days a week which is bliss. She has the life many little girls dream of, and it's a joint effort between me and her father.

I am incredibly proud of the life I provide for my daughter, definitely no guilt here! I would say I have no idea why you mentioned mum guilt, but that would be a lie. It's because you think mums who work feel guilty for working and not costing their children 24/7. We don't!

Perhaps they display their photos in rooms you don’t go in? Or they love the ‘out of date’ photos (dick comment btw) so keep them up? Why are you so judgemental about people who you presumably know well enough to be invited into their home.

As for DIY - outsourcing DIY doesn’t make you a poor parent. It’s personal choice.

Absolutely. I actually wrote myself a full job description for all aspects of caring for my home and children, I thrive off ambitious lists. I have a full-time job, and actually work more hours than when I actually had a paid full-time job. I’m more motivated to put the extra hours in as everything I do is driven by love and for the benefit of my own family.

Well I walk into plenty of homes where I can’t see any or ones that are years out of date, and people moaning they have no time to do some basic DIY.

And do you think working parents don’t display photographs or artwork? Of course we do!

Omg you actually write like it's it's a CV. Every does these things!

Oh and his utterly does pressing and joyless for children to grow up without recent family photos up and knowing parents are proud of their art work.

A home needs to feel alive with memories!

They find colds challenging (always think they have flu which is a much nastier beast) when women cope with them fairly well.

You had me and DH on the floor rolling at washing walls/displaying DC artwork and rotating photos …

(Your own walls ? Or random walls is that?)

Derranged Mumsnet always delivers…

Why would they find periods so challenging when women cope with them fairly well?

You had me and DH on the floor rolling at washing walls/displaying DC artwork and rotating photos …

(Your own walls ? Or random walls is that?)

Derranged Mumsnet always delivers…

And likewise for the most successful women I know. They all are either single, childless and are very invested in their careers. Or they have a spouse who has stepped back and essentially supports their career moves.

Well I’m cooking them breakfast every morning, personally doing every school run with zero breakfast clubs/after school clubs, taking them in and out to GP/frequent serious hospital appointments for 1 DC, attending every school event, leading on all school communication, volunteering there, helping on many trips, collecting them, hosting friends, listening to them read, washing and ironing uniforms, sorting dinner. My children have never, ever been late, never been without a detailed comment in their reading records, their clothes and shoes always fit, their nails are cut, I have never not ensured a single thing school have asked for or needed has not been swiftly sorted. Zero Mum guilt- this is my priority and I am on top of things!

Speaking personally, l’ve had a hard times with heavy periods (l flood) including hospital. But l do think men would find periods overly challenging.

But they just wouldnt do half the stuff anyway

Floors would be sticky, children would be dirty and badly fed, school clubs would be forgotten or payment not made, dental appointments missed, everything left to last minute and the blame someone else that chaos ensues.

Well I’m cooking them breakfast every morning, personally doing every school run with zero breakfast clubs/after school clubs, taking them in and out to GP/frequent serious hospital appointments for 1 DC, attending every school event, leading on all school communication, volunteering there, helping on many trips, collecting them, hosting friends, listening to them read, washing and ironing uniforms, sorting dinner. My children have never, ever been late, never been without a detailed comment in their reading records, their clothes and shoes always fit, their nails are cut, I have never not ensured a single thing school have asked for or needed has not been swiftly sorted. Zero Mum guilt- this is my priority and I am on top of things!

Huge generalisation. Do you think men who do heavy manual labour on building sites or travel long distances, living away from their families to find seasonal work crumble at the slightest hint of a sniffle?
I think this thread is based on a certain vision of men and women where the man works an easy but fairly high paying office job, has his “hobbies” and generally lives a fairly charmed life. The women in this scenario are self-appointed martyrs, do everything for the man and for the kids (and choose to have kids with a man they know will not do an equal share). That doesn’t reflect the average man or woman across the world but generally work done by men is physically harder and they suffer ill health more than women. Jobs that are really bad for your health like painter decorator or dangerous industrial work are almost never done by women.

Does your period genuinely make you suffer in a way that you believe might render a lesser human incapable, paralysed and unable to function?

They wouldn’t get through their first period!

Can't find the original but found a repost...

My sil is 44, rich and has NEVER had a job, lucky her! She has no trouble filling her day and has a great life.

Dp earns the money then gives it to me. Why would I feel oppressed?

I haven't worked in 8 years and bloody love it! I got to go shopping without ds today and have a long lunch with a friend. Going to the gym now.

My friend is married to the son of a billionaire and sometimes I have to block her on social media because her life is one long holiday.

I dont work, I was able to be a sahm with my sons, both in 30s now. I lunch, dressmake, walk my dogs for miles, spend time with friends and family etc....
I also volunteer for a small homeless charity, something I am so passionate about, being literally close to home.
I feel totally fulfilled!

My DSis married a very high earner and has never worked a day in her life.

My DH works 80 hours a week for a signficant amount of money, which allows me to be a SAHM and indulge myself, allow me to do all of my volunteering and my hobbies.

I work just a few hours a week in a job I love doing, I don’t have to work for financial reasons. I’ve accidentally ended up with a really high earning DH. I enjoy having lots of time to myself, I have hobbies, an amazing spa membership and an extremely fortunate to have some really good friends whom I’m able to see nearly every week.

My SIL is lucky enough to not have to work due to DB’s income. She has nice things, goes out for lots of lunches.

I'm a SAHM who has teenage children and is fortunate to be married to a high earner so I haven't needed to work since having kids. We do have a lifestyle that most people would find impressive.

I choose not to work. DH works really long shifts and odd hours so can be out of the house either days or nights, with each week being different. When the kids are grown I'll go and get some post-sahm work. Maybe in a shop, factory, cafe or something similar.

The funniest post was Monday morning when she started by posting “it’s going to be a long week, hoping the nanny isn’t late” followed by “anyone know a place I can get nails done, not happy with the place I’ve been going as I think they overcharge and wanting a day to pamper myself a bit.”

I feel lucky that I don't need to work. I am not getting any benefits because dh earns enough.

I'm lucky in that I didn't have to carry on working.

I am lucky enough not to work and stay at home with my son, as DH is a high earner. I feel extremely grateful for this every day, and try very hard not to take it for granted.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3764425-To-think-you-are-very-lucky-if-you-dont-have-to-work