To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

Well, children who don't have shoes without holes in, wear clothes too small and live in a dirty house in a dangerous neighborhood because their parents can't afford better probably aren't that happy are they.

I don’t personally look down my nose at people who have less money than myself. Money has little to do with happiness.

I don’t personally look down my nose at people who have less money than myself. Money has little to do with happiness.

Yes he found himself a doormat. They now live in poverty because he works minimum wage job as it's all he was capable of and she doesn't lift a finger to get more money in the coffers. Their house isn't even that clean. Their poor children!

And no, a man that does nothing to keep his own house clean, cook his own food or contribute to the household work load in any way because he believes it is woman's work and beneath him is not a good man. He is lazy. And a misogynist. Like tour husband I'm assuming.

You know, his mum was a SAHM that clearly raised him thinking womans place is to do everything in the home and a man needs to do nothing but earn money. Look how that turned out for him, my life is better than his and his poor house wifeys 🤷

Some of them also eat their own young, I’d say that’s fairly abusive.

You’re honestly another level.

Oh and it sounds like your ex-DH would be much better suited to a housewife, a proper team player who respects his contribution instead of running him into the ground and trying to palm their half onto him. Hope he found one- plenty out there who respect a good man!

Society is absolutely abusive to hound and badger mothers not to be with their own babies before either party is ready. To pester them, to question them, to shame them. Animals in the wild know better than that!

I’m not joking, no.

Accusing a PP of child abuse, essentially, is out of line.

And if someone says why their previous relationship ended, it’s not up to you to say he’s a “good man.” That’s for her to decide, he’s her ex husband.

Retaliating and getting personal, are different.

You’re embarrassing yourself being so rude to me.

A society that disrespects full time motherhood is utterly corrupt and materialistic. Abusive actually to both women and children. That’s embarrassing.

You are joking, after the sheer amount of negative, angry, ranting posts I’ve had from that poster?! Mocking me, laughing at me?

My advice- stop dishing it out if you can’t take it. I will absolutely retaliate.

Oh and it sounds like your ex-DH would be much better suited to a housewife, a proper team player who respects his contribution instead of running him into the ground and trying to palm their half onto him. Hope he found one- plenty out there who respect a good man!

Oh and it sounds like your ex-DH would be much better suited to a housewife, a proper team player who respects his contribution instead of running him into the ground and trying to palm their half onto him. Hope he found one- plenty out there who respect a good man!

That’s a little below the belt.

I don’t think we need to be a) accusing posters of abusing women and children or b) commenting on their ended marriages, that we know very little about.

Oh and it sounds like your ex-DH would be much better suited to a housewife, a proper team player who respects his contribution instead of running him into the ground and trying to palm their half onto him. Hope he found one- plenty out there who respect a good man!

The pressure for women to work after they have children is capitalist bullshit. Women fought for the right to work so they could choose to fund themselves instead of being forced into relying on a man, and now it's been twisted into someone that just benefits capitalist fat cats - you're now useless if you don't work, and if (gasp) you choose to be a SAHM.

And half of mumsnet is doing the dirty work for them, scratching anyone who is a SAHM and financially dependant on their husband.

You should be able to depend on the partner you married to bring home the bacon whilst you look after home and family. If he earns enough, and is happy with the arrangement , why shouldn't mum stay home with the kids.

It is better for the kids. Of course it is.

"Ewww you're financially dependent on a man! You're so financially vulnerable!"... So? No problem with that if it works for the family. You should be able to trust him. You should be able to be vulnerable. If you can't trust your husband, then maybe you should have chosen a better husband. Utterly weird that you married someone you can't trust, better to have not married at all.

If their DHs left, and that mother was left with barely anything from the divorce (unlikely but let's pretend), we all know she'd still be able to find her way and support herself. Of course she would. Not like she's gonna lie down in a gutter and die is it? Being a SAHM gives a lot of transferable skills if nothing else.

Truly think people who fearmonger at SAHMs are jealous because they can't do it and feel secure, and would actually love it if they could.

No issue with working mums. They have to do that, either for their current financial health or emotional health or because they can't trust their husbands or because their husbands won't allow it or whatever. Any reason they have for continuing work is valid as far as I care, and I have no reason to believe they're not doing their best. But damn, they do seem to get overly angry at SAHMs and delight in putting them down.

I'm planning to quit work and be a housewife at this rate as my health sucks (did have career aspirations about going to Uni and try to restart my career in a more sustainable way , but mumsnet shat on my confidence about that saying I couldn't do it as I'm disabled lol) and I don't even have kids. I'd be entirely dependant on DH and vulnerable. I'm cool with that. I'll frolic in the fields and bake him cookies and take him lunch whilst you're having yet another wanky meeting about KPIs or some shit and worrying about whether to spend your super high wage in a beach holiday or loft conversion. If he leaves me, worst that will happen is homelessness really. And I'm sure it wouldn't.

Anyway,

I think men would cope fine as women. As well as we cope, anyway hahaha.

Can't address any of the points raised there then?

You're embarrassing yourself.

I can and have run a household on my own for years after divorcing my ex husband and buying him out of the house to get rid of him because he was lazy and useless at home, thought all he had to do was work and complain he was tired from work. I won't be anyone's maid. I don't depend on my husband for his money. I would expect him to continue to pay 50% of my daughters costs if we ever divorce because he is her father but I don't need his money for me or my lifestyle.

No. You do not have two full time jobs.

Being a mother is not a job, it is a role. A personal responsibility. One that you don't do full time because your children are at school.

Professional Housewife 😂 like I said you're embarrassing yourself.

You don't have any full time jobs. You are unemployed.

I’ve got two full time jobs already thanks- Full Time Mother and Professional Housewife. You know, the ones that actually matter.

Oh and I bet you are also financially dependent on your DH- if he left tomorrow, I’d bet my house that you couldn’t survive on your own without him on your own earnings as an individual. Most can’t, but like to feel superior for working any token amount of hours. Most of the hours my friends who do work covers a few holidays etc and is a drop in the ocean compared to what their DH’s cover- still financially dependent factually 😂

Shows how little people understand the role these days. My children are being brought up to understand and respect what housewives do.

The pressure for women to work after they have children is capitalist bullshit. Women fought for the right to work so they could choose to fund themselves instead of being forced into relying on a man, and now it's been twisted into someone that just benefits capitalist fat cats - you're now useless if you don't work, and if (gasp) you choose to be a SAHM.

And half of mumsnet is doing the dirty work for them, scratching anyone who is a SAHM and financially dependant on their husband.

You should be able to depend on the partner you married to bring home the bacon whilst you look after home and family. If he earns enough, and is happy with the arrangement , why shouldn't mum stay home with the kids.

It is better for the kids. Of course it is.

"Ewww you're financially dependent on a man! You're so financially vulnerable!"... So? No problem with that if it works for the family. You should be able to trust him. You should be able to be vulnerable. If you can't trust your husband, then maybe you should have chosen a better husband. Utterly weird that you married someone you can't trust, better to have not married at all.

If their DHs left, and that mother was left with barely anything from the divorce (unlikely but let's pretend), we all know she'd still be able to find her way and support herself. Of course she would. Not like she's gonna lie down in a gutter and die is it? Being a SAHM gives a lot of transferable skills if nothing else.

Truly think people who fearmonger at SAHMs are jealous because they can't do it and feel secure, and would actually love it if they could.

No issue with working mums. They have to do that, either for their current financial health or emotional health or because they can't trust their husbands or because their husbands won't allow it or whatever. Any reason they have for continuing work is valid as far as I care, and I have no reason to believe they're not doing their best. But damn, they do seem to get overly angry at SAHMs and delight in putting them down.

I'm planning to quit work and be a housewife at this rate as my health sucks (did have career aspirations about going to Uni and try to restart my career in a more sustainable way , but mumsnet shat on my confidence about that saying I couldn't do it as I'm disabled lol) and I don't even have kids. I'd be entirely dependant on DH and vulnerable. I'm cool with that. I'll frolic in the fields and bake him cookies and take him lunch whilst you're having yet another wanky meeting about KPIs or some shit and worrying about whether to spend your super high wage in a beach holiday or loft conversion. If he leaves me, worst that will happen is homelessness really. And I'm sure it wouldn't.

Anyway,

I think men would cope fine as women. As well as we cope, anyway hahaha.

The pressure for women to work after they have children is capitalist bullshit. Women fought for the right to work so they could choose to fund themselves instead of being forced into relying on a man, and now it's been twisted into someone that just benefits capitalist fat cats - you're now useless if you don't work, and if (gasp) you choose to be a SAHM.

And half of mumsnet is doing the dirty work for them, scratching anyone who is a SAHM and financially dependant on their husband.

You should be able to depend on the partner you married to bring home the bacon whilst you look after home and family. If he earns enough, and is happy with the arrangement , why shouldn't mum stay home with the kids.

It is better for the kids. Of course it is.

"Ewww you're financially dependent on a man! You're so financially vulnerable!"... So? No problem with that if it works for the family. You should be able to trust him. You should be able to be vulnerable. If you can't trust your husband, then maybe you should have chosen a better husband. Utterly weird that you married someone you can't trust, better to have not married at all.

If their DHs left, and that mother was left with barely anything from the divorce (unlikely but let's pretend), we all know she'd still be able to find her way and support herself. Of course she would. Not like she's gonna lie down in a gutter and die is it? Being a SAHM gives a lot of transferable skills if nothing else.

Truly think people who fearmonger at SAHMs are jealous because they can't do it and feel secure, and would actually love it if they could.

No issue with working mums. They have to do that, either for their current financial health or emotional health or because they can't trust their husbands or because their husbands won't allow it or whatever. Any reason they have for continuing work is valid as far as I care, and I have no reason to believe they're not doing their best. But damn, they do seem to get overly angry at SAHMs and delight in putting them down.

I'm planning to quit work and be a housewife at this rate as my health sucks (did have career aspirations about going to Uni and try to restart my career in a more sustainable way , but mumsnet shat on my confidence about that saying I couldn't do it as I'm disabled lol) and I don't even have kids. I'd be entirely dependant on DH and vulnerable. I'm cool with that. I'll frolic in the fields and bake him cookies and take him lunch whilst you're having yet another wanky meeting about KPIs or some shit and worrying about whether to spend your super high wage in a beach holiday or loft conversion. If he leaves me, worst that will happen is homelessness really. And I'm sure it wouldn't.

Anyway,

I think men would cope fine as women. As well as we cope, anyway hahaha.