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Labour should increase inheritance tax to 50 per cent

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Tummyachey · 01/08/2025 17:19

If they did this it would raise billions of pounds - while avoiding raising taxes on working people. Exemptions should be put in place to protect small businesses; I accept this would be complicated, but they need to try and make it work.
So much money could be raised and it would also encourage earlier wealth transfers which would stimulate the economy. In addition, it would help redistribute wealth thus reducing inequality.
There would be political backlash, of course, but they need to get the economy growing and should act now so that the results are visible in time for the next general election.

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swampwitch0 · 01/08/2025 18:15

Taxing billionaires would help.
As would reversing the cynical national insurance cuts the tories made in their last year in power.
Its rare to find anyone who resents paying NI.
Up NI to 20% and tax the billionaires.
You're welcome, Rachel.

Helpmeplease2025 · 01/08/2025 18:14

I don’t want any of my wealth redistributed. I’d rather give it away to charity. I work for my family, no one else. I pay enough tax as it is

BeardofHagrid · 01/08/2025 18:13

Is that you Rachel? It’s Friday dear, go have a lie down x

TheHateIsNotGood · 01/08/2025 18:12

@activecurtains it's not a 50% split between your dc and the gov. Currently IHT is 40% of sums above £325k for single people or £650k when the surviving spouse dies. Although DM had remarried later in life it was decided prior to either of them dying that their estates were separate entities so her estate was taxed as a single person.

NewbieYou · 01/08/2025 18:10

Why? My in laws have saved their whole Iives to give my husband a good life. They’ve paid tax on all of it already - income, stamp duty, VAT. Why should it be taxed again?

The super rich are all protected anyway through trusts and charities et al. Only the middle trying to get up a bit more will be punished and dropped back down again.

We want social mobility not social stagnation.

AmateurNoun · 01/08/2025 18:08

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 18:01

Er no. It's not fair. It's beneficial to their children. But it's not fair. And it's not even meant to be. Or else it would peter out when the children came of age.

I think parents often help their kids financially even if they are adults. Financial help from an aunt/uncle isn't common/expected. I don't think they are comparable situations and I do think it's fair that the residence nil rate band applies when leaving a house to your children but not to nieces/nephews/others.

juggleit · 01/08/2025 18:06

Tummyachey · 01/08/2025 17:19

If they did this it would raise billions of pounds - while avoiding raising taxes on working people. Exemptions should be put in place to protect small businesses; I accept this would be complicated, but they need to try and make it work.
So much money could be raised and it would also encourage earlier wealth transfers which would stimulate the economy. In addition, it would help redistribute wealth thus reducing inequality.
There would be political backlash, of course, but they need to get the economy growing and should act now so that the results are visible in time for the next general election.

said the person with fuck all to hand to anyone. Its VERY easy to spend others dosh! freaky friday indeed.
We must have something to motivate us. I want to make my kids life a bit easier than mine, I have worked my but off to pass on some wealth so leave it alone please. 😳

FortheloveofCheesus · 01/08/2025 18:04

They'd be better off closing the loopholes on avoidance.

Which ones of those are left, pray tell?

Over the last 15 years the tax environment has shifted massively. Its much much harder (nigh on impossible) for companies to reduce the tax they pay through payments to tax havens, obscure royalties, or massive interest deductions (these things used to be quite easy, really). Plus there's now an OECD minimum tax rate of 15% so even if a corporate has managed to bring down their tax, income will get picked up and taxed to 15% anyway.

activecurtains · 01/08/2025 18:03

So I work all my life, pay my taxes and and leave a nice house in my Will, 50% split between my kids and the government? Yeah, I’ll pass!

Janie934 · 01/08/2025 18:03

Personally I think it should be reduced to 15 to 25%. At those rates very few would bother to try and avoid it, so would probably bring in more and be fairer (current system means that a lot of tax planning is only available to the uber wealthy who can afford to give lots away, invest in businesses, move abroad etc)

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 18:01

AmateurNoun · 01/08/2025 17:58

But if you died then your children, especially if they were young, would have a much greater need of the money wouldn't they?

Isn't it right that parents get a more generous allowance to pass onto their children and grandchildren?

Edited

Er no. It's not fair. It's beneficial to their children. But it's not fair. And it's not even meant to be. Or else it would peter out when the children came of age.

Soporalt · 01/08/2025 18:01

FullOfLemons · 01/08/2025 17:37

potentially exempt transfers

You and your children are welcome

That’s not a loophole. It’s a statutory relief.

GasPanic · 01/08/2025 18:01

I can see from this thread inheritance tax is one of those things that makes it suddenly OK to be a Tory.

Here's the lowdown.

People accumulated too much wealth by the country borrowing to fund services rather than raising it by taxation.

Now we are stuck because we can't borrow any more money.

So a choice. We can either fund services off the back of current workers by raising their tax. Or we can fund it off the back of previous workers who didn't pay enough. Or we can have crap(er) services.

My guess is it will be a mix of all three. But the second has richer cohorts and is probably fairer area to target in terms of raising money.

Annoyedone · 01/08/2025 18:00

Tummyachey · 01/08/2025 17:19

If they did this it would raise billions of pounds - while avoiding raising taxes on working people. Exemptions should be put in place to protect small businesses; I accept this would be complicated, but they need to try and make it work.
So much money could be raised and it would also encourage earlier wealth transfers which would stimulate the economy. In addition, it would help redistribute wealth thus reducing inequality.
There would be political backlash, of course, but they need to get the economy growing and should act now so that the results are visible in time for the next general election.

Errr…. Ummmm. No

Mumofteenandtween · 01/08/2025 17:59

I’m quite pro that and I am going to pay a ton of it. With a bit of luck it would encourage my parents to actually spend some money on “nice things” for them. They are still making sure that they are saving apparently. They are in their 70s and my dad has cancer. WTF they are saving for I don’t know.

I get that they like the idea of leaving money to me and my brother but we are two highly functional, decently earning adults in our 40s. (At least partially due to the high IQs they passed on and the functional childhood they gave us.) I just want them to have a really lovely holiday when my dad finishes his treatment.

KingOfPoundbury · 01/08/2025 17:58

An excellent idea.

Of course, one does not have to pay it oneself! (guffaw, guffaw)

Sir John Major saw to that, for which I thank him. (Doffs Crown)

AmateurNoun · 01/08/2025 17:58

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 17:53

He wasn't married. He had no children. No allowance for passing it to young nephews and nieces.

But if you died then your children, especially if they were young, would have a much greater need of the money wouldn't they?

Isn't it right that parents get a more generous allowance to pass onto their children and grandchildren?

TheHateIsNotGood · 01/08/2025 17:57

I didn't mind paying a bit of IHT on DM's estate and wouldn't have minded paying a bit more as the thesholds for IHT are quite high anyway. She had been a teacher and benefitted from the vast increase in her property's value and subsequent rental income after she moved in with her DH. I hadn't earned a penny of my inheritance so paying some tax on unearned income was fine with me. After all it's tax that paid her wages and contributed to her pension and her comfortable lifestyle. She was also good with money and invested well.

My dsis's were not so pleased about it and went to ridulous lengths to try and lower it - bare faced lying, stuffing as much jewellry in their pockets as they could when her DH wasn't looking, etc. The funniest one was telling the TPS that she wasn't married to try and get a small payment instead of her dear DH who was rapidly succumbing to Alzheimers and needed some help towards his care fees. I ensured the truth was told about that.

Oddly enough both of my dsis's were also paid by the public purse at the time yet were unable to equate their wages and pension contributions to the need for taxation to pay it.

Tax is tax and pays for a lot of things and IHT is one of the least painful taxes to most people (excluding farmers and the landed gentry).

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 17:57

Ebenezerscrogge · 01/08/2025 17:50

Have you had legal advice - does he have a wife or children who have inherited ?IHT threshold can potentially rise considerably if so …

Of course. Not married, and no children. Single people who have actually been quite poor all their life shouldn't be paying this tax. He has left the money to young family members, but it does incur significant tax.

Viviennemary · 01/08/2025 17:55

Labour are very good at taking people's money. That's why I for one won't be voting for them again.

AmateurNoun · 01/08/2025 17:55

ReservationDogs · 01/08/2025 17:48

Exemptions should be put in place to protect small businesses;

Why?

If you're going to raise taxes, there should be no 'get out clauses' at all. There should also be taxes on Trusts (yes I'm looking at you Hugh!!)

Duke of Westminster avoids huge inheritance tax bill using legal loophole
Hugh Grosvenor was the 68th richest person in the world when his father died in 2016 and he inherited his £9billion fortune

But the then 25-year-old Duke was able to keep all of his father's estate worth an estimated £9billion, thanks to an inheritance tax rule which meant he didn't have to hand over a huge wad to the government's coffers.

It's a trust so they pay 6% every 10 years rather than 40% on a death. It works out roughly the same in most cases.

www.grosvenor.com/about-us/how-we-work/tax-policy/the-facts-about-our-ownership

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 17:53

MrsClatterbuck · 01/08/2025 17:45

As I understand it if he is passing his house to his dc or dgc there is a cap on the IHT plus the 325k which doubles if a spouse predeceased him and they left him their estate. This can make the estate worth nearly a million before IHT is paid.

Can't remember the full details.

He wasn't married. He had no children. No allowance for passing it to young nephews and nieces.

Fearfulsaints · 01/08/2025 17:51

In the spirit of raising taxes, im always intrigued if having a much smaller amount paid on a bigger number of estates would raise more. Like if everyone paid 5% of anything, rather than only 4% paying 40% over the threshold

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 01/08/2025 17:50

There should also be taxes on Trusts (yes I'm looking at you Hugh!!)

There (generally) are…

Ebenezerscrogge · 01/08/2025 17:50

Nevertrustacop · 01/08/2025 17:36

I don't misunderstand it. I resent the fact that the estate of my brother, a postman with a tiny house in the south east is having to pay it. As his house alone is worth more than 325k. How can that be fair when me and DH with an estate worth about 1 million, won't pay anything?

Have you had legal advice - does he have a wife or children who have inherited ?IHT threshold can potentially rise considerably if so …

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