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To wish my GP practice had told me about this upward trend earlier?

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polarband · 01/08/2025 14:45

I have used a blood pressure medication to treat migraines for several years now. As a result I need to go for blood tests and a BP check every 6 months as my BP tends to be low on this medication. The blood tests are mainly to check my kidneys but they do other checks as well, after each test I just call and they tell me everything's fine and I go again in another 6 months.

This time after my check I got called back in to speak to the doctor and was told I have high cholesterol and prediabetes. I asked him what could have caused the problem so suddenly and he said it hadn't been sudden and that if he looked at my blood test results over the past 6 years he could see that my cholesterol and blood glucose levels had been creeping up but its only now just crossed over into clinical diagnosis. I am fit, a healthy weight, a non smoking, non drinking, active woman with ideal blood pressure who eats a healthy whole food diet so when I was told my results were normal I thought that meant I was healthy not that things were getting worse.

I'm not mad that it's happened because these things do happen of course, I'm 50 now and there is type 2 diabetes in my family but I just wish they had told me earlier when this upward trend was noticed and I could have made some changes to prevent getting to this level. My GP just said they don't treat at anything below clinical diagnosis level and anything below that is in the healthy range and therefore normal.

Is it so unreasonable to think that they should flag up something like this to patients?

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IVbumble · 01/08/2025 16:07

If you're worried about cholesterol it's well worth reading 'the great cholesterol con' by dr malcolm kendrick so that you are fully informed before you make any decisions.

DeLaRuiz · 01/08/2025 16:07

Fibrous · 01/08/2025 15:02

That’s frustrating!

My cholesterol recently dropped significantly when I started eating legumes every day. It went from 6,8 to 4.5 in a year. I didn’t think my diet was unhealthy before (vegetarian, tee total, non smoker) but I’ve really been working on getting the fibre in first and foremost and was surprised at the results.

This is a great result, congratulations! How much legumerie (?!) do you eat each day?

Icanttakethisanymore · 01/08/2025 16:05

Why don't you just get the app?

Kidding, sorry 😂

Seriously OP, this is frustrating. I has some medication (infused over a week in hospital) which required me to have monthly blood tests for 5 years after and although it was sometimes met with a lot of objections, I felt I needed the results to reassure myself of what was going on. I'm not blaming you, it's not unreasonable to think this trend would have been flagged but my personal experience is that you can't rely on the NHS to necessarily do everything it should. You can't turn back time so I would just focus on doing what you need to going forward. Good luck.

polarband · 01/08/2025 16:01

@Emma6cat It would be good to have the option to be able to check them online myself and I would have but unfortunately we do not have that access in Scotland as a matter of course.

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polarband · 01/08/2025 16:00

Hankunamatata · 01/08/2025 15:47

But they were normal. Why would they inform you there was a problem when there wasnt one before now

Because once I was just over the limit they were keen to point out how it was clear I was headed here all along.

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Emma6cat · 01/08/2025 15:59

I don’t think the GPs have time to look at everyone’s test results other than making sure they are in the normal range and nothing has been flagged. I have had results many times when the receptionist has told me they were normal, however when I have checked myself of the app or Drs website I can clearly see that some are creeping up and just sitting under the radar.

GRex · 01/08/2025 15:58

Health is devolved in Scotland to ensure that you get a better service. Apparently.

You know now so can make some changes, but it really doesn't sound significant if it's just been creeping up. You can try some dietary changes over the next 6-12 months or try medication, but at such an early stage it really makes very little difference to whether you started a couple of years ago or not. It may be worth getting your GP to print a full copy of all your blood test results however, as if your lifestyle is healthy there could be an underlying cause to consider. You may want to consider stopping birth control pills, or advocating for more kidney or thyroid tests.

Salome61 · 01/08/2025 15:56

I'm sorry you've had this shock, best wishes to you for the future.

My friend is 75 and had no idea that her high blood pressure could affect her kidneys. She had a kidney 'stone' which was causing her great pain and she went in for surgery - and was told that she had stage 3 kidney disease. Apparently her kidneys are now full of tiny stones - which could meld together to become another large one. Unfortunately the dietician/nutritionist? was unavailable before discharge, and she didn't really understand what she could or couldn't eat. I managed to get her a renal diet printed off from the web, and then a book from Amazon but she was frightened and ended up just eating salads.

Paganpentacle · 01/08/2025 15:56

Primary care medic here.
We have hundreds of blood tests to check and report on daily.
If its within normal limits.... that's it. Its normal. Until its not normal... at which point you will be notified.
We have no time to be looking backwards and checking trends when things are within normal limits.
If you want to take ownership of your health then you are entitled to have your blood results printed out for you to monitor the trend.
(PS sometimes things are out of range but have no clinical significance.... which is why what you perceive to be abnormal is marked otherwise)

Teenytwo · 01/08/2025 15:55

I think this highlights the difference in standards of care by doctors surgery. My old surgery before I moved house automatically provided a printout that I could either go in and collect when the results were ready or I would receive through the post a week or so later. The numbers on the sheet meant absolutely nothing to me and I would go by the doctor saying everything is fine, but as someone regularly tested this would have benefitted you.

AppropriateAdult · 01/08/2025 15:49

I can understand your frustration, OP, but as a GP myself I can say hand on heart there just isn’t time in the day to review every patient’s normal-range blood results and compare them with previous tests. It would be a massive increase in workload, which is already unsustainable in most practices.

I’m in ROI where GP services are somewhat less strained than in the UK; I still go into work for several (unpaid) hours every weekend just to keep on top of paperwork. There is zero capacity for extra workload in the current system.

Sajacas · 01/08/2025 15:49

If you want straight forward advice on dealing with the pre diabetes take a look at the Public Health Collaboration website or YouTube channel. The PHC is a UK based charity with the goal of saving the NHS, sometimes from itself. They put all the conference speakers and talks on YOuTube, and the talks by Dr Unwin, a UK GP, are really informative.

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Hankunamatata · 01/08/2025 15:47

But they were normal. Why would they inform you there was a problem when there wasnt one before now

soupyspoon · 01/08/2025 15:44

Hellohelga · 01/08/2025 15:03

Tricky not having the app. In England at 50 you get a full health review with bloods, blood pressure, bmi, questionnaire re eating/drinking/smoking habits and a follow up to discuss any concerns or potential risks. But I’m not sure about Scotland. At least you know now OP and can take measures before it gets worse.

Ive never had this

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 01/08/2025 15:43

RosesAndHellebores · 01/08/2025 14:49

They don't, which is why it's always wise to get copies of the results rather than a "fine". It's your health, we need to take personal responsibility for it.

Get the NHS app. The test results are uploaded to it and you can monitor personally.

Yes, we should all get medical degrees to make sure that we're fully informed, lord knows why the HEALTH SERVICE would be useful.

I've had helpful advice from some professionals who've scanned my previous records.

When I was pregnant, I was always retested for BP, first result would be just over the referral threshold, the second just under. Gave me duff advice based on the lower reading. Developed into pre-eclampsia.

Depending on individuals to interpret results will just widen health inequalities.

soupyspoon · 01/08/2025 15:42

polarband · 01/08/2025 14:52

@myplace I asked for my exact results before and was fobbed off and told it was all normal and so I didn't need any farther information.

Well you dont accept that, I dont, I ask for it to be emailed and now I have the NHS app (although many test results and outcomes are often missing so its not foolproof), if the results are on there I check them with a fine tooth comb and compare them with advice on Dr Google.

If they're not on the app I aks them to email it to me

Hobbitfeet32 · 01/08/2025 15:41

Honestly making more dietary changes probably wouldn’t make much difference at all. If everything was still in normal range then no action was needed.

polarband · 01/08/2025 15:41

@LBFseBrom Yes I understand that its normal for these things to get worse as we age. I already don't drink alcohol, never have I only drink tea and water. My diet is good I could add in more beans, pulses and fibre and add a supplement. No obvious issues with my diet for Blood glucose but I will get a CGM for two weeks and see what various foods I eat often are doing to my levels and perhaps alter my activity levels and increase strength training to see if that helps. I do monitor my blood pressure at home it has always been on the low side and there is a medication I use for migraine that makes that worse so I need to watch that. I am glad I have a chance to sort it out now.

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HostaCentral · 01/08/2025 15:40

OP are you menopausal, at this wonderful time in life all these blood tests also go to crap as our Eostrogen declines. Lucky us.

NoNotHimTheOtherOne · 01/08/2025 15:39

No, not unreasonable at all. It's disturbing that the practice can't distinguish between thresholds to initiate treatment and results that might indicate a need for lifestyle changes. Just because they don't need to do anything, that doesn't necessarily mean you don't.
I have all my test results on the NHS app. I'd assumed this was the same for everyone, but my brother (who has a serious life-limiting condition) doesn't have results on his.
I know there's a risk of people over-reacting to results that aren't really concerning, but we're never going to move from a National Illness Service (what we have now) to a National Health Service (which we've never had) unless patients are informed and involved.

polarband · 01/08/2025 15:35

Growlybear83 · 01/08/2025 15:30

@polarbandWhen you set up the NHS app, you have to ask your surgery to give you access to all test results, letters etc. But I’ve only had the app for the last five years or so, and before then, I always contacted the surgery to get my results without fail. Some of the admin staff weren’t helpful, but they always gave me the information I wanted in the end.

It does sound great but again we don't have the app available here.

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polarband · 01/08/2025 15:33

Hobbitfeet32 · 01/08/2025 15:28

If you already eat healthily and exercise what would you have done differently if you had known?

Even small changes can make a difference I believe. I could have added more fibre or even used certain supplements to help or if I knew my HDL I could have added in more healthy fats if that was low. I could have used a CGM to see what was going on with my blood glucose and if any foods I eat regularly were affecting me worse than I'd thought.

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BlondieMuver · 01/08/2025 15:32

Hellohelga · 01/08/2025 15:03

Tricky not having the app. In England at 50 you get a full health review with bloods, blood pressure, bmi, questionnaire re eating/drinking/smoking habits and a follow up to discuss any concerns or potential risks. But I’m not sure about Scotland. At least you know now OP and can take measures before it gets worse.

Think it depends on your PCT.

HostaCentral · 01/08/2025 15:31

Also as other have said even on the NHS app for those that have it not all test results are listed in detail

Just to flag this up, you need to ask your GP for full access to your record. Just drop them an email. I now have all test results, some from several years back, and all the historical trends. Its really good, as OP says, for monitoring trends.

I was also pissed off as it showed that my kidneys have been pretty crap for a while, function decreasing for years in fact, and no-one flagged it up until it went below a certain number, and I'm suddenly in CKD territory..... well thanks.

Growlybear83 · 01/08/2025 15:30

@polarbandWhen you set up the NHS app, you have to ask your surgery to give you access to all test results, letters etc. But I’ve only had the app for the last five years or so, and before then, I always contacted the surgery to get my results without fail. Some of the admin staff weren’t helpful, but they always gave me the information I wanted in the end.

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