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To agree with the new guidance in Scotland to ban cake at nursery?

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AmericanMummmy · 01/08/2025 11:22

The new guidelines from the Scottish government are effective today (1st August) - among other food restrictions, cake should not be brought into nursery to celebrate a child’s birthday (or any other reason). The goal is to fight childhood obesity and promote healthy eating.

I’m totally in favour of this and don’t understand the backlash! Everything I read on this topic is about parents and staff thinking it’s a huge overstep and sapping all the fun out of life, like kids need cake to be happy. If parents want to feed their child cake outside of nursery, that’s completely their choice, but why does it need to be at nursery too? I allow my 3 year old to have sweet treats on occasion (such as birthday parties or holidays/weekend activities), but it drives me nuts when he’s being offered cake at nursery (several times a month), and it’s always at pickup right before dinner time. They give him lollies on most days too from what he tells me, it’s just too much sugar!

Am I the only one who agrees with this guidance? Are there not other ways we can teach children to celebrate that don’t involve ultra processed sugary treats? No judgement to how people parent - and I love sugary treats myself- but I want to teach moderation and show that there are plenty of other ways to celebrate.

OP posts:
x2boys · 01/08/2025 15:19

AmericanMummmy · 01/08/2025 14:52

The government isn’t dictating what your child can eat either. They’ve issued guidance which I happen to agree with. Sucks to tell your child they can’t have cake when their friends are eating it. And if there is no cake to begin with, no one is disappointed because no one was expecting it!

Your the one who doesn't want your child to eat cake if they then get upset becsuse you don't want them to have well that's your issue.

Plinketyplonks · 01/08/2025 15:18

I was surprised when we moved to Scotland that the school didn’t police at all snacks or lunches brought into school. In comparison at our school in England you weren’t allowed to bring snacks in, the school provided fruit or carrots which were put out in big boxes in the playground for morning break. Lunchboxes were checked ad hoc. I thought my kids were telling porkies when we moved back here and they said ‘oh so and so had a chocolate bar…a bag of sweets.’ But it was true. And I see the wrappers blowing around in the playground at pick up.

so I think the Scottish govt has to start somewhere. I think there are already proper guidelines on if they’re cooking puddings in school how much sugar to use etc.

FloofyBird · 01/08/2025 15:18

Just nursery? Just birthday cake? Weird, bizarre and an utterly pointless piss in the ocean imo.

Icanttakethisanymore · 01/08/2025 15:17

Kids are not fat because they have cake occasionally at nursery. They are fat because they are consistently fed rubbish food and are likely also quite inactive. That being said, the nursery is limited in their reach so I guess they are just trying to do what little they can.

TaborlinTheGreat · 01/08/2025 15:17

DiscoBob · 01/08/2025 15:06

But fruit yoghurt is just fruit and yoghurt? I think it's fair enough to suggest things but to make it law is ridiculously ott.

No it really isn't. Most fruit yoghurts have loads of sugar and/or sweeteners in them, and often all kinds of other crap.

BarnacleBeasley · 01/08/2025 15:15

DiscoBob · 01/08/2025 15:06

But fruit yoghurt is just fruit and yoghurt? I think it's fair enough to suggest things but to make it law is ridiculously ott.

No it isn't - it normally has sugar in too. Nurseries can still serve fruit and natural yoghurt together. Our nursery never gave flavoured yoghurt in the first place, so there's no change there.

Fentyfan · 01/08/2025 15:11

I don’t understand either if you don’t want your child having cake or sweets, you can’t just tell them no. Parenting does require sticking by your own guns…relying on schools and nurseries to say no for you shouldn’t be necessary

columnatedruinsdomino · 01/08/2025 15:09

Plastictreees · 01/08/2025 15:01

This is utterly ridiculous and completely joyless.

Agree. One child feels special, gets sung to, blows out a candle and everyone gets a cube of sponge. What’s not to like? Honestly some people on here seem to want a return to Puritan times.

DiscoBob · 01/08/2025 15:06

HerdMentality · 01/08/2025 14:57

None of that stuff. All food has to have very limited sugar and salt content. No fruit yoghurts or anything.

But fruit yoghurt is just fruit and yoghurt? I think it's fair enough to suggest things but to make it law is ridiculously ott.

TickyandTacky · 01/08/2025 15:02

Coffeeandcrochet · 01/08/2025 14:37

I have more of an issue that they're explicitly not allowed to use butter on sandwiches, crackers etc and have to use spread instead.

No crackers either, too salty.

Plastictreees · 01/08/2025 15:01

This is utterly ridiculous and completely joyless.

Comedycook · 01/08/2025 14:58

My dc are teens now...they used to have cake most days when they were younger...I used to bake every week so we pretty much always had a homemade cake on the go and they'd have some for pudding. They are both a healthy weight. If their diet is healthy and balanced and they are active I don't think it's an issue. However I can't get worked up either way on whether nurseries serve it or not.

Bikergran · 01/08/2025 14:58

HerewardtheSleepy · 01/08/2025 11:57

You really cannot see that this is a step too far OP?

What business is it of the Scots government what a Scots parent feeds their child in a private nursery they pay for?

But it's not what a parent feeds THEIR child, they're feeding other people's children as well, and that parent may be trying really hard to feed their child a healthy diet. In my area of England, there have been dietary restrictions on what children can bring in their lunchbox in some of our local schools for years, (no nuts, choc bars or biscuits, no sweets, no fizzy drinks) and there's been no drama.

HerdMentality · 01/08/2025 14:57

DiscoBob · 01/08/2025 12:08

It's very specific as well. So no cake, but cookies, flapjacks, sweets etc are fine?

Banning cake, literally banning it by law seems ridiculous. It almost doesn't sound real.

None of that stuff. All food has to have very limited sugar and salt content. No fruit yoghurts or anything.

cheesycheesy · 01/08/2025 14:56

You need to unclench

Morgenrot25 · 01/08/2025 14:55

I agree, partly because I think there's utterly no need for it.

AmericanMummmy · 01/08/2025 14:52

x2boys · 01/08/2025 13:45

Get over yourself just tell the nursery you don't want your child to have any cake, other parents are not dictating what you child eats🙄

The government isn’t dictating what your child can eat either. They’ve issued guidance which I happen to agree with. Sucks to tell your child they can’t have cake when their friends are eating it. And if there is no cake to begin with, no one is disappointed because no one was expecting it!

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Genevieva · 01/08/2025 14:51

A small piece of cake to celebrate a birthday never made anyone fat, even if it was once a week. Obesity is down to daily diet and exercise levels. This really is a kill joy policy that suggests the politicians have too much time on their hands.

iloveitalia · 01/08/2025 14:50

I totally agree with your opinion , OP.

EverythingIsComputer · 01/08/2025 14:48

This is not what is making us an overweight nation.

Allseeingallknowing · 01/08/2025 14:47

Coffeeandcrochet · 01/08/2025 14:37

I have more of an issue that they're explicitly not allowed to use butter on sandwiches, crackers etc and have to use spread instead.

Butter is definitely preferable and more healthy than spread

MemorableTrenchcoat · 01/08/2025 14:41

Smallsalt · 01/08/2025 14:34

It's hardly just down to cake .

Indeed. But to say that cake has been around for centuries so it can’t be a problem today is ridiculous.

Coffeeandcrochet · 01/08/2025 14:37

I have more of an issue that they're explicitly not allowed to use butter on sandwiches, crackers etc and have to use spread instead.

Smallsalt · 01/08/2025 14:34

MemorableTrenchcoat · 01/08/2025 12:57

People have not been regularly eating cake for 1000s of years. It’s only in recent decades that it became affordable enough to do so. Funnily enough, the obesity crisis has developed within the same timeframe.

It's hardly just down to cake .

Smallsalt · 01/08/2025 14:32

AmericanMummmy · 01/08/2025 12:05

If they were dictating what children can eat in their own home, I’d see that as an overstep. But nurseries are regulated and for good reason. I certainly don’t think other children’s parents (who I may not even know) should decide what my children eat!

They wouldnt be dictating what your child eats though.
If your child is too precious to eat cake then you tell the nursery that YOUR child doesn't eat cake.
Dictating to other or indeed supporting dictation of others is actually lunacy.

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