To agree with the new guidance in Scotland to ban cake at nursery?

But your happy for nursery staff to dictate? What are you going to do when junior is 7 and going to classmates parties...ban them from eating cake. You do realise that kids at nursery have no control over their food, it's not like they are able to pop to Tesco's buy a can of red ball, a twix, a packet of salt and shake crisps and 20 silk cut is it... parents regulate what they eat so cake shouldn't be an everyday event.

20 children's birthdays, 20 cakes.
I agree, it's not healthy and wouldn't happen in school.
They need to invest in a musical toy cake. Whip it out, sing happy birthday, job done.
I can't believe parents drop in the cake, what if one was psychotic.
In my children's school, the rare occasion that they get cake, it is bought by the school.

I'm in Scotland and can confirm that DS had cake at nursery yesterday. The children baked it themselves and presumably used a low-sugar recipe. Everyone seemed happy.

It’s utterly bollocks. Education/ nursery can’t seem to make its mind up as to what level of ‘parenting’ they want to do. There is lamenting that not enough responsibility is taken at home regarding reading, writing, toileting, and yet as an organisation you’re going to enforce what children can/ can’t eat. If the early years education system genuinely thinks birthday cake (max) 25 times a year is fuelling all that’s wrong with childhood eating, well done on fixing it 🙄. Either have parents, parent- or do it for them. Just because you disagree with the parenting, work on education, not trying to unilaterally ban things

I'm all for not bring in cakes to nursery. Allergies, pressure on parents to bring in cakes they might not be able to afford, healthy eating reasons (They do tend to be the cakes with think icing/chocolate), with 50 or 60 children on the roll it's perfectly possibly to have 3 or 4 birthdays in a week, arguing over which bits they get...
They're just not needed.

I agree to an extent. Maybe if they fixed the junk food being cheaper than healthy food situation, they wouldn't need to ban cake in nursery. I suppose it's better to distract with a cake ban than make sure the public can afford to buy healthy food. I do believe we can all be too easily distracted by these events. We should all be rallying for a better economy, instead of banning cake.

We haven’t had UPF cake for 1000s years. There is a huge difference between a homemade preservative free cake and the crap that most supermarkets sell. My kids are way past nursery age now but I would have been fully in favour of this regulation in today’s society

I haven't been keeping up with the thread over the weekend, but just popped back in to say that my 20 month old fucking loves a dry cream cracker. I tried to get myself some last night and he'd only sodding helped himself to all the crackers in the tin.

It’s been my nursery’s policy since we opened 6 years ago!
The guidance hasn’t changed all that much, it’s just much clearer and less open to interpretation. We implemented the new guidance in April (or whenever the new Setting The Table was published) so that we were in the swing of it by the effective date. It really didn’t change much, other than we can no longer offer bagels and pancakes for snacks!
I see no issue with not allowing children to bring cakes in to celebrate birthdays at all, our kids wear a birthday hat and we sing happy birthday and they love it! Plus we have 72 kids, that’s a lot of cake for parents to
buy and send in!

Jeez what a fun sponge!

The SNP are an odd lot, like to control in some ways such as this but happy for drug consumption rooms. Overweight children are not overweight due to a sliver of cake a couple of times a month

Is your child’s birthday special and deserving of others celebrating it? Just to be clear, it might seem like there is always a birthday to be celebrated, but each child only gets one a year and it is special for them.

It’s banned in most schools… and I agree with it. It’s not just an occasional thing. 30 kids in a class means cake about once a week in school - then for nursery/ reception children often a birthday party most weekends - with party bags and more cake.

add in occasional treats at home and family birthdays - and Xmas and Easter and little children are having sweets and cake 3 or more times a week…

it’s impossible to avoid unless people stop providing- no one wants to be that parent who says no when every other kid is having it - it’s a nightmare for those with dietary restrictions- and I’m including obesity in that.

I get what you're saying

On the face of it it feels like government overreach but if you have sschool age kids you KNOW it's a legitimate problem when every other day they come out with sweets and cakes because it's some kids birthday or the school are celebrating something random and obscure.
I once moaned about it at the school gates and got looked at like a fun sponge but I was raised by a man who never let me eat anything like that and made us watch documentaries like 600lb life and super size me. According to tik-tok I should definitely have an eating disorder because of how I was raised 😂😂

Why is the rest of the world so obsessed with sweets chocolate and cake? Child plays outside and neighbours children share huge bags of sweets with them not to mention confounded relatives taking them out for an adult size large hot chocolate with a cake.

This shit would of blown my father's mind

Oh come on. How many children at your child’s nursery? And not all of them will bring cake, so possibly 10-15 times per year of having a tiny square piece of cake. You’re over reacting. You could always ask the nursery to wrap it up and then save it for the weekend when your child is allowed a treat!

I'm all for the new rules. Birthday cakes are my biggest pet hate (I work in EYFS within a school setting). Many parents expect us to continue what private nurseries have allowed. I've even had a parent who expected a huge novelty cake to be cut, party bags shared and fizzy pop to be given out and filmed so mum could share the experience. We are there to teach and have quite tight timetables and routines to fit everything in, and being completely honest, we don't always have the time. A quick 'What did you get for your birthday? Let's all sing happy birthday to whoever' and allowing the child to give sweets out at hometime for their friends to take home if they wish is more than enough.

At my child’s nursery (England) we are not allowed to take in sweets/cake on birthdays because of allergies, but the nursery cook makes a cake/ cupcakes for every child on their birthday that is suitable for all , I guess that’s why we have to re mortgage our house on a monthly basis! 🤣

If you want to give cake to your child just give it at home or on their private birthday parties.
it works both ways

They aren’t stopping the children eating cake, as they can have that at home but no need to be eating everyone at nursery’s cake.

Our primary school had a request that children bring a favourite book to share on their birthday instead of cake or sweets, it was somewhere on their website. I thought that was a lovely alternative. I don't think many people were aware and the teachers seemed to be surprised by it when DD1 took a book in on her birthday. But I think it's a lovely idea and could be done by nurseries. Children without books at home could pick a favourite nursery book.

This.

If you don't want your child to eat cake, just tell the nursery, don't ruin it for everyone else 🙄