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For wanting my partner to pay more of the mortgage?

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AnyPomegranate · 01/08/2025 08:46

My fiancé makes about £90k pa plus bonus. I used to earn extremely well as a lawyer but decided to career change as I loathed the work and long hours. I now earn £35k with good future earning potential. We live in London and pay about £3000 pm for mortgage/bills which we split mostly 50/50 (see below).

Currently I'm about £200 short per month. I'm doing my best to increase my income and reduce expenses, but ultimately £35k doesn't go far in London so I'm finding it a little stressful. Part of the problem is that my partner isn't making it easy to budget - he insists on staying in London (I want to move) and because he earns well he wants to regularly eat out, go on holidays, buy what he wants in the food shop etc. It feels silly to say that I'm finding it hard financially on a household income of £125k, but obviously the vast majority of that money is my partner's and not mine.

I was reading online that some couples split bills as a proportion of their income, rather than 50/50. So today I asked him if he would mind paying a little bit more of the mortgage so that I have enough to break even, just temporarily until I'm able to get a promotion. He told me no, it was my decision to take a pay cut. He also pointed out (reasonably) that the bills have gone up so he's already paying about £200 more than me as it is (the bills come out of his account so I wasn't aware).

I can see his point of view so I'm not sure if what I'm asking is cheeky or reasonable. Please be gentle, I'm aware that I'm in a privileged position compared to a lot of people.

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GuineaPigEnthusiast · 01/08/2025 11:19

Espressosummer · 01/08/2025 08:54

Maybe he thinks the OP is selfish. She has unilaterally decided she would significantly reduce the household income and now expects her partner to shoulder the financial burden she has created. Perhaps he would like a less stressful, lower paid job too. They took out the mortgage together based on their combined earning then the OP moved the goal posts. He's already subsidising the OP and now she wants more.

@SaladAndChipsForTea have to disagree with you. It is the OP who is acting like what's hers is hers and what's his is also hers, not the partner. The OP wants claim to what's his so she can have a nicer job.

Edited

OP is happy to spend less and move somewhere cheap. She's now subsiding his lifestyle.

OP just tell him that either he accepts that you're moving somewhere cheap and can't afford the things he wants to do or that he's going to have to chip in. We were on far far less but dh was never tight about "his money" before we got married.

Tiswa · 01/08/2025 11:17

And that is a fair point why is the house split 55/45 on deposit but 50/50 on mortgage - he is basically gaining 10% of the payment

at the very least it should be 55/45 that is £150 each payment so far

MascaraGirl · 01/08/2025 11:17

Incidentally, what did he say when you proposed that you would like to reduce your hours down?

And did household expenses figure in the discussion? But I have no idea how people manage to live together if they don't have joint finances. DH and I rise and fall together with money.

JHound · 01/08/2025 11:17

Penfoldfive · 01/08/2025 11:13

Don't bother to get married then.

What about "for richer, for poorer?"

What about “making big decisions collectively”.

If my partner jacked in their job for me to make up the financial difference without us clearly agreeing this - I would have an issue.

Tiswa · 01/08/2025 11:16

Are you planning kids because will it still be the 50/50 then
is everything else 50/50 housework etc

I think you need a long hard chat about the future how it will all work once you are married and the impact a huge mortgage is having

and then make some very hard decisions about your future

Yelleryeller · 01/08/2025 11:15

AnyPomegranate · 01/08/2025 10:39

So sorry for the slow replies, the comments are coming in faster than I can read them! I'll try to respond to some of the questions that have been asked (don't mean to trip feed, just didn't want to overload my first post with loads of information!):

  • Yes, my mental health was poor when I was working in law and it was a big factor in deciding to quit. This feels so morbid to write now but I used to regularly fantasise about getting hit by a car on the way to work - not fatally or anything, but just enough to put me out of work for a few weeks so I could have an excuse for a proper break! I am so much happier in my job now and genuinely enjoy going to work.
  • He has a slightly bigger share in the property to reflect the deposit we put in - it's split 55/45 I think.
  • I was earning more than him at one point and we continued to split the bills 50/50. Honestly, it wasn't a conscious decision and if he'd wanted me to pay more I happily would've done so. It's more that we were earning the same when we first took out the mortgage so it made sense to split it 50/50 and we never really revised it from there. It's only come up now because I'm struggling to afford it for the first time.
  • The mortgage was much lower when we took it out. We unfortunately got stung hard by interest rates, plus bills have gone up (bloody Thames Water!) so I hadn't necessarily anticipated costs would go up so much.
  • In terms of how we're financing the wedding, my mum is loaning us money and has made it clear that she is very easy on when we pay it back, so my assumption is that we'll just pay it back once my salary has gone up.
  • I don't have a second job but I'm in the process of setting up a side gig and am in conversations with my director about my employer funding a qualification which will improve my earning potential.

I hope I haven't missed anything! Thanks everyone for your input.

Would it make any noticeable difference if you at least paid the mortgage as per your split? I totally understand the share being different based on what was put in, but why pay 50% of the repayment and not 45%?

JHound · 01/08/2025 11:15

Sorry I see you did discuss, he opposed it and you did it anyway. I am not sure what the solution is. You have very different approaches to relationship finance and poor communication skills. You need pre-marital therapy to properly discuss these big topics.

MounjaroMounjaro · 01/08/2025 11:15

I wouldn't spend much on a wedding, OP, because I can't see your relationship lasting much longer. He doesn't want to share with you and you want some of his money. It's not a good match, is it? You started off equal and that's how he liked it. You didn't share when you earned more than him, but now that you're earning a hell of a lot less - completely voluntarily - you want him to fund you.

You'd have to be insane to borrow in order to marry, especially borrowing from your mum and even more especially when you don't have a clear repayment plan. Between you you earn over £100K - why are you borrowing money to get married anyway? You know damn well you'll get carried away with the wedding and it'll end up costing a fortune. He will then say he didn't want chair covers or whatever and when you split up he'll want you to pay that debt.

You are clearly rubbish with money. You don't even know what proportion of your home that you own. Live within your means and if you do marry, marry within your means, too.

RantzNotBantz · 01/08/2025 11:13

Difficult.

When you were a high earner with no kids, did you build up savings to support yourself through retirement-training / career change!

Honestly, I think you are asking a lot of your partner. To financially support you , and to move out of London! Someone who loves living in London ( me!) would not be happy to move out at this stage. Selling and buying is hugely expensive, I doubt you have yet built up much equity and moving back will be even more expensive.

But… is this exposing fault lines in your relationship? The unequal domestic work would make me very wary.

Are you planning children in the longer term? If so how would he then view finance pooling and domestic / child related work?

In the shorter term how does he see things after marriage? Does he still envisage separate finances? Does he see marriage as a ‘with all my worldly goods ..’ type contract? Did you plan marriage before or after your salary cut?

In an ideal world someone who is your life partner needs to be team partnership: you are at one over how you respectively support both the partnership and each other.

At the moment he is not in the same page as you over your roles in the partnership.

It’s a conversation that goes beyond who pays for what.

Would couples counselling help as a way to have the wider conversation?

Penfoldfive · 01/08/2025 11:13

JHound · 01/08/2025 11:11

I agree with him. But then you have a difficult decision to make.

Did you discuss with him before quitting your job and what this means in the short and long term?

Edited

Don't bother to get married then.

What about "for richer, for poorer?"

TunnocksOrDeath · 01/08/2025 11:12

OP, although you point out that your gross household income is 25k higher now you are on 35k and 90k rather than both on 50k, the tax bands mean that your net household income has increased by less than half that. (~ 12,400 unless you have investment income).
The median average salary in London is 47k. Your decision to take a less-stressful job seems to be predicated on your DP shouldering the financial strain for a few years until you are earning well again, and he doesn't want to do that.
Of course many couples are ok with that, and DH and I have both taken it in turns to be the high earner, but if your DP is not comfortable shouldering that responsibility then there has to be a conversation about how you jointly go forward with something more sustainable than you living off your savings, before you do something as serious as getting married.

PurpleThistle7 · 01/08/2025 11:12

I think you should consider doing some sort of financial counselling as you are both approaching this very differently. Couples need to work together once you’re sharing things and if you have children together, that will make any niggles much worse.

willowpatternchina · 01/08/2025 11:11

You sound like you have somewhat different priorities in life, but most importantly very different ideas about how relationships work and what makes a true partnership. I don't think getting married when you aren't on the same page is a good idea. It sounds as if you imagine a somewhat more traditional relationship where everything is shared and "family money", and soon-to-be-DH is happy to shoulder more of the financial burden. He wants more of a modern partnership where you both aim to earn and contribute equally - rather more like a partnership of two individuals rather than a traditional married couple where "the family" comes first. Neither of these types of relationship is necessarily wrong if you both love each other, want the same thing and have a clear vision of how it will work, are flexible and good at compromising sometimes etc - but getting married when you don't have the same vision isn't likely to end well, especially if you plan to introduce children into the mix.

JHound · 01/08/2025 11:11

I agree with him. But then you have a difficult decision to make.

Did you discuss with him before quitting your job and what this means in the short and long term?

Upsetbetty · 01/08/2025 11:10

howshouldibehave · 01/08/2025 10:57

In terms of how we're financing the wedding, my mum is loaning us money

Do not borrow money to fund a wedding-your relationship sounds on incredibly dodgy footing!

Your mum might need to lend you that money to help you get a house on your own before too long...

I would also write up a loan agreement that you BOTH sign…if he’s not willing to sign then don’t marry him.

Penfoldfive · 01/08/2025 11:10

You are taking a big risk getting married to someone who is selfish with money.

You can't assume you will always both be able to max out your earnings - there are often bumps along the way - kids, health problems, job losses etc etc

The main thing is to approach all your decisions, including money as a team, not as individuals or flatmates.

Butterflyarms · 01/08/2025 11:09

This doesn't get better when you have children and go on maternity leave. Your income is further reduced, your lifelong earnings are reduced, you will probably end up paying nursery fees. Have the hard conversation now about money, before you are married.

arethereanyleftatall · 01/08/2025 11:09

You would be an absolute fool to marry or have children with this man.

he couldn’t be clearer via his actions about the fact that he doesn’t see the two of you as a partnership.

dismiss his obvious feelings it at your peril.

Yelleryeller · 01/08/2025 11:08

ohdelay · 01/08/2025 10:50

Ahhh, martyrdom and busy work? That's usually unasked for and not appreciated. If you choose to do unpaid admin for another adult, thats on you (and irrelevant here?)

What's with the attitude? You do know it's possible for it to be neither martyrdom or busy work and just be shit that needs doing that can't be left undone? Do I personally want to do absolutely everything with my partner that requires one person to do it? No, I'm happy to sit down and look at our bills for example, I just think it's fair that it's acknowledged particularly if one partners being an arse about 50/50 fairness so it's absolutely relevant if he's also watching OP do more at home.

drspouse · 01/08/2025 11:05

I don't really know what the solution is apart from separate food shops.
The solution is you pool your money and buy what the person doing the food shopping wants to buy, within that joint budget.
If you were made redundant, would he chuck you out and expect you to starve?
Either share all your finances or leave him. Those are the only two options.

AnyPomegranate · 01/08/2025 11:03

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 01/08/2025 10:25

If he loves her and doesn’t want her to be miserable then that wouldn’t be an issue. She isn’t jobless she’s retraining with potential for a higher income in future. And many female lawyers leave the profession after having children, particularly if their spouses are working in a similarly demanding profession. She’s actually saved their relationship from that difficulty in future.

He also has given no room for compromise- I.e. moving to a cheaper area - £3k is a lot for a couple, even in London. The only option she has given her is be financially comfortable and miserable or be poor.

He’s not a life partner and if I was OP, I would be rethinking the relationship.

Yes this was a huge factor in my decision to retrain - so many senior lawyers had to leave because they had children and/or burnt out and couldn't deal with the hours anymore. I thought, If I'm going to sack it in and do something else then I'd rather do it now while I'm still young enough to retrain in something else, than at 5PQE where my options are more limited!

OP posts:
limescale · 01/08/2025 11:02

So today I asked him if he would mind paying a little bit more of the mortgage

In a good relationship, this would be phrased as "We need to sit down and talk about our finances".

OldLondonDad · 01/08/2025 11:02

MoveOverToTheSea · 01/08/2025 10:49

What about HE starts a discussion on all the points you mentioned (even though I wouldn’t be surprised if he hasn’t thought about many of them) instead to telling the OP to stuff it?

The issue here is not whether it’s better to stay in London etc…
It’s tge fact theyre getting married but can’t even contemplate having a discussion on what the future could look like.
It’s the fact he is assuming that it’s his way or the high way (ie I’m staying in london or we split OR I want this food therefore we’re buying it). It’s the fact Theres no negotiation going on. No allowances for the fact she has less money now
It’s the fact they’re not fully open with each other on finances. The fact prices went up and he saw cost of utilities going up but didn’t say a word about it says a lot.
It’s the fact he is blaming her. Theres no wish to help, support, put himself in her shoes.

Totally agree it's on both of them to discuss, and pretty important to have these conversations before getting married, as maybe they'll discover they just aren't compatible. And you're right - he may not be considering those future costs and how to build a good financial future - we can't know.

I can't agree on the utilities point - we're actually going to blame him for just silently paying the increased cost rather than itemising the increases and asking for more every month? That sounds like a positive, not a negative.

I still think there's a balance of short-term and long-term here, and his attitude to finances may be a good thing for the long-term, even if not (from OP's viewpoint) for the short-term.

babyproblems · 01/08/2025 11:01

Also your mum lending you the money for wedding to me is a huge red flag.. I think you should postpone it until your DH can see what being married entails…!

AnyPomegranate · 01/08/2025 11:00

Sorry, I just realised I did miss two things. First, a few people have questioned my decision to leave law entirely and not just move firms or work in something law-adjacent like legal publishing.

I really did explore all my options at the time and spoke to lots of different people at the time - career coaches, in-house lawyers, etc.

I interviewed at some firms with 'better' work-life balance, though I wasn't successful. In-house options were fairly limited given how junior I was and given how utterly miserable I was, I didn't feel enthused about slogging away for another 2 years until they became more widely available. I was also nervous that some of the better WLB options didn't have great career progression. I didn't really enjoy the job either but I'll admit that's a nice-to-have...

I felt like it would be better to take a temporary earnings hit to start again in a growing area with great career progression/earning potential doing something I loved, than stay at £75k indefinitely as a paralegal and hope that AI didn't come for my job. The best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago, the second time is now and all that. So far I haven't regretted my decision at all. I actually love my job and don't get the Sunday scaries.

The other thing people have mentioned which I forgot to comment on was who picked up most of the domestic load when I was working long hours. I would say it was pretty fairly split when I was working my last role and it hasn't changed much now!

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