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Civil Service Fast Stream

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Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 07:02

Has anyone got any experience or advice about applying for this? My son has just graduated from a prestigious university and is going back to do a masters next year. He is planning to apply to the civil service fast stream in October and is very motivated and excited by this prospect. He is highly intelligent, with excellent grades and good work experience and is a hardworking, very likeable young man who is committed to the idea of using his life to provide public service. He is not motivated by money, he just wants to be of benefit of others, but he does need to earn enough money to live obviously. I know he would be an asset to the civil service but as a white, middle class man with a humanities degree I feel as though the odds are stacked against him before he even applies. I haven’t mentioned this to him, of course, and I am just a passive spectator to his life now really, but if there was any help or advice I could give him it would be much appreciated.

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Zanatdy · 01/08/2025 07:20

RockaLock · 01/08/2025 07:16

Well, given that the Labour government have just announced that only “working class” children will be allowed to have Civil Service internships because the civil service is too middle class, and that they will then be prioritised for entry to the fast stream, then I would say that yes, applying for a job there now as a white middle class man means you probably will have the odds stacked against you.

Those kind of schemes are just evening things up. White middle class men generally have plenty of advantages to get themselves ahead. The CS wants to be representative of the communities they serve, and recruiting people from certain sectors of society isn’t easy, as those who have had plenty of educational advantages always pip them to the post. Plenty of middle class men (and women) still join the CS. The fast stream is very competitive, but isn’t the only way to join or become senior. I know someone rejected from the fast stream who made it to G7 ahead of when he would have anyway as a fast streamer.

SpanThatWorld · 01/08/2025 07:19

My son is a middle class white man with a double First from Cambridge.
He got into an excellent role in the Civil Service at the first attempt despite the terrible, terrible oppression that he faced.
And despite the fact that Mummy didn't get involved with his application.

I also think that he has a nice personality but others may not agree. And he has nice hair which he washes regularly.

GoatGoatGoat · 01/08/2025 07:17

Oh for Christ sake. I'm a civil servant and I assure you, I work with plenty of white, middle-class men.

When you apply for a civil service job, it's name-blind and they ask you to make sure there are no references to your age, sex, university you studied at etc, to try and eliminate any bias.

There are plenty of resources on civil service website to help him prepare and Reddit has an active civil service forum.

A lot of people apply for fast stream every year so best advice would be not to pin all his hopes to this. Last year only 2% of applicants were successful. Hopefully it goes well for him.

GreatBigShaz · 01/08/2025 07:17

Sesma · 01/08/2025 07:10

There is a news article on the Civil Service internships today on BBC website that people from working class families will be prioritised. No idea if this affects your son, just really drawing your attention to it.

I suspect she's read it.

White, middle class man with a degree, with the odds stacked against him, I ask you 🙄

Mumofteenandtween · 01/08/2025 07:17

A friend of mine applied for the Civil Service fast track, the Foreign Office and the Treasury. Got one of the three. Worth looking at all of them to see if he is interested.

RockaLock · 01/08/2025 07:16

Zanatdy · 01/08/2025 07:10

Why would a white middle class man have the odds stacked against him? The CS is full of senior officials who are white, middle class men. The recruitment will be blind until the interviews anyway. He can join non fast stream and it’s perfectly do-able to go up the grades pretty quickly.

Well, given that the Labour government have just announced that only “working class” children will be allowed to have Civil Service internships because the civil service is too middle class, and that they will then be prioritised for entry to the fast stream, then I would say that yes, applying for a job there now as a white middle class man means you probably will have the odds stacked against you.

mumonthehill · 01/08/2025 07:15

Ds did it and got pooled at the end but as above limited himself by wanting not to work in London. He was not offered anything in the end after months of waiting and chasing. It was a very long process but the experience is worth it as the interview process is so varied.

Nocalmwaters · 01/08/2025 07:15

Why is he applying for the fast stream if he’s going back to Uni to do a masters?

Rocknrollstar · 01/08/2025 07:12

you have to be prepared to work anywhere. DS didn’t get on the fast stream (he was already working for the Civil Service) because he said he didn’t want to work for the MoD.

Sesma · 01/08/2025 07:10

There is a news article on the Civil Service internships today on BBC website that people from working class families will be prioritised. No idea if this affects your son, just really drawing your attention to it.

Zanatdy · 01/08/2025 07:10

Why would a white middle class man have the odds stacked against him? The CS is full of senior officials who are white, middle class men. The recruitment will be blind until the interviews anyway. He can join non fast stream and it’s perfectly do-able to go up the grades pretty quickly.

PermanentTemporary · 01/08/2025 07:07

Id continue to show interest but I’m not sure there’s much you can do. When I did it years ago I flunked the interview big time. So if he doesn’t have a subscription to a serious news periodical (the Economist?) then maybe get him one of those, and try to argue with him about politics, get him to articulate his views to you.

Im just leaving the comments about his personal characteristics out as there’s nothing anyone can do about that and I’m more than a bit tired of these comments about the poor oppressed middle class white guys.

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