15 million children require humanitarian support in Sudan,.but it's not really talked about

You could also compare it to Ukraine. The Civil War in Sudan began 6 months before the latest conflict in Gaza, but I doubt you saw much about it in the news after Khartoum airport, even when there were still daily reports on war in Ukraine.

We also don't like to talk about how the current conflict in Sudan is directly related to British colonialism. For some reason, the British Mandate doesn't really get a look in when discussing modern Palestinian politics, but there's no escaping the reality that the failure of the modern Sudanese state is a direct consequence of British and Egyptian colonial interference....

Isn't it racist to try and force democracy on other countries?

The reason why people don't talk about Sudan is because it's a very long running, complex civil war that we can't influence or have any say in. All we can do is send aid and hope for peace eventually. The news about babies being raped is horrendous of course. People do care.

I think some people are frustrated that others refuse to look the other way and stfu about Gaza. Presumably we should just take no notice whilst those atrocities are going on.

I agree with your first statement wholeheartedly. Heartbreaking images pop up of very sick children from various African countries in the This Morning ad breaks, for example, and I’m not sure how many people donate or even register the reality. Or leaflets come through our door asking for donations with similar imagery. I’m not saying this makes it right but I think we’ve normalising the suffering there to a certain extent.

Re your second question, I can think of a few: there’s people using it as a very thin veil for antisemitism or Islamophobia (depending on which side you fall), people who have followed the situation for longer than a couple of years and can’t believe where we’ve got to, people whose understanding of it is purely from images in the news and are shocked enough to comment, people who pay attention to Uk politics and feel uncomfortable with us contributing to Gazan suffering. I’m sure there are more.

I’m not sure of your point. The dictators are Arabs. You seem to be saying Arabs should not govern Arab countries.

Corruption, misuse of donations, using funds for immediate relief but not for tackling the source of the problem. The need for aid in parts of Africa is never going to end.

The reason it isn’t talked about when Palestine is, is because there has been a protracted campaign since the 1960s to demonise Israel, firstly by the Soviets and more recently by Qatar, straddling the media, left wing, and higher education.

Dave Rich’s book “The Left’s Jewish Problem” gives a very good explanation.

Well they don't govern themselves do they?
The absolute monarchy of saudi arabia
The dictatorship in iran.

Get real.

Where does all the money go? Comic relief every year breaks records. Band aid raised millions several times. The endless donations is spot on. Where does it all go?

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You seem to be saying Palestinians and other Arabs should not have self determination and should not govern themselves.

Unicef has reported that in Sudan Armed men are raping and sexually assaulting children, including infants as young as one.

Sexual violence against children and babies has been widespread in this conflict.

Nobody gives a shit.

What I also don't understand is what people think will happen if the palestinians have their own independent state
They elected hamas last time. Look where that got them.

If every last jew left israel tomorrow and they gave palestinians the entire country back, you really think there'd be a utopia?

It would just become yet another arab, failed state like all the rest. It would be a hot bed of corrupt leaders, terrorism and muslim extremism. Just like all the others. And the israelis wouldn't be responsible for their country going that way. It's just who they are. As a general rule, Arab states in the Middle East are generally not democratic. All have human rights very high on the list. They are generally oppressive and totalitarian.

Africa is the money pit of the world. We've thrown billions and billions at it for decades. All we get in return is an exploding population that seems to just want to come and live in Europe.

Syria? Afghanistan? Ukraine? Did the coverage pass you by?

Seriously? You seriously think that the behaviour of Israel attracts attention because of hostility to Jewish people? That is a massive reach. A million people demonstrated in London when the US, aided by the UK, invaded Iraq. What was that? Hostility to Americans and Brits? People don't like asymmetrical warfare. They don't like powerful nations carpet bombing less powerful nations. They don't like violations of international law dressed up as justice.

For a long time Africa in general has been ignored. People just don't care. Its incredibly depressing as the situation in Sudan is a dreadful humanitarian crisis. So it is a good question to ask why the DO care about other areas.

I came on to say this.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

I'll listen to multiple aid agencies and governments around the world rather than you random mumsnetter thanks.

This might be of interest to anyone who wants to cut through the noise

The post was going so well until you mentioned Gaza. Your constant need to compare the two is becoming very tiring.

Is a government purposefully blocking aid from reaching the children

Yes, Hamas and UN agencies are doing this.

The way Hamas has been written out of this conflict is just biased and disgraceful.

Is a government purposefully blocking aid from reaching the children in Sudan? Is that government an ally of the UK? Is the UK government helping that government even though they are purposefully starving children?

Huge amounts of food have either been distributed or are waiting to be distributed. Enough for 3000 calories a day for each person in Gaza. The UN are refusing to work with GHF to distribute food as they say it will ' effect their neutrality'. So they would rather Gazans starve.

When food was distributed previously by UN agencies huge amounts of food were stolen by Hamas, stockpiled for themselves and their families and the rest sold to Gazan civilians - when they were supposed to get it for free.

Gazans who have got free food from GHF have expressed surprise at not having to pay for it.

Hamas has done everything it can to sabotage food distribution by GHF as the control of food to Gazans helps to maintain their control, as when as ensuring they could stockpile food for themselves. Hamas have stated openly that the suffering of their civilians aids their cause. They controlled citizens by access to services even before October 7th.

Sudan isn't on the list of trendy causes du jour, and no one has told the "right on" crowd to get behind it. 🤷‍♀️ As you can see from some of the replies on this thread, they've all got very Big and Important Reasons why they don't actually care about humanitarian suffering. It's almost like... there's some other reason that people have latched onto Palestine as today's Big Deal.

https://www.mediasupport.org/blogpost/silence-kills-the-state-of-media-in-war-torn-sudan/

This article is very interesting as it explains why news is not coming out of Sudan, to summarize there are few journalists left in Sudan and most are working in secret.

Only 12m out of 45 m people in Sudan use the Internet and here is censorship with social media. Again this means there is not wide spread news and social media images.
Now I will say I would not have been totally unaware of the conflict. Back in 2021 Trocaire (Irish charity) ran their Lenten fundraising appeal based on South Sudan which would have included an education pack that as a teacher I would have used with my class.

I posted this on the last thread comparing the two conflicts a few days ago.