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To use sun cream?

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Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:23

A minor celebrity I follow on Insta is currently away on holiday in a sunny destination. As with a lot of influencers they holiday a few times a year. Her and her children always look sun kissed and have a tan. She was doing a AMA yesterday and someone asked what sun cream she uses for her and the kids and she stated that they don't use sun cream. Instead they wear hats, cover up and play in the shade when they feel the kids have had too much sun but the kids have built a resilience. She said it's because of all of the cancer causing ingredients in sun cream, if they have to use sun cream they use a Zinc based one.

I was really shocked by this but she later posted to say how much support she'd had and the story has been shared online and there are lots of comments saying they agree and they don't use sun cream on their kids either.

I was under the impression that it's not just burning that does damage to the skin, it's being unprotected in the sun and the skin can still be damaged without being burnt.

Have I been living under a rock and everyone else thinks sun cream is poisoning us or is this a random theory people are running with?

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Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 16:41

junkmaail · 31/07/2025 16:26

Oh for god sake! Sam Fairs is an absolute doughnut! Why on earth are you listening to her? She’s got zero medical qualifications and is more than happy to fill her face with fillers and Botox! You know what causes skin cancer? Exposure to UV radiation! You know how to minimise skin cancer? A decent sun screen!

I didn't say I was listening to her or taking her advice, I was discussing what she had said.

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Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 16:38

CloudywMeatballs · 31/07/2025 16:26

I don't do my own research, because I'm not a scientist and don't have the expertise to do so.

I do follow advice. The advice I follow is the advice of medical professionals and experts, not so-called influencers.

Sorry I didn't mean I take advice from influencers. I meant I took advice from experts that have done the scientific research, but I will 'research' in terms of looking for that scientific advice...from an expert not an influencer.

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Blarn · 31/07/2025 16:36

Covering up and keeping out the sun is really sensible. As is wearing suncream. We know UV causes cancer. How are her children going to feel if they get a skin cancer diagnosis later in life? Or don't but have terribly sun damaged skin?

Lots of people with darker skin tones prefer not to wear zinc suncream either as it just plasters your face white.

OxfordInkling · 31/07/2025 16:32

She’s talking nonsense. Factor 50 all the way here. I’m not an advocate for staying out of the sun entirely, but factor 50, zinc stick for noses/under eyes, and being inside at the height of the sun are key.

DaisyChain505 · 31/07/2025 16:31

Sam Faiers is an absolute idiot.

Yes wearing protective clothing along with hats and staying out of the sun during peak times is the best protection but saying suncream is damaging is madness.

She’s the same idiot who asked for money for a fundraiser in Africa only for it to come out that the head of the charity was an abuser who kept all the money!

She also spouts on about “Chem trails” from planes yet flies 15+ times a year.

UpDo · 31/07/2025 16:29

If anything qualifies a person to advise on skin cancer, it's being on TOWIE.

BeatriceAndBeau · 31/07/2025 16:28

mondaytosunday · 31/07/2025 15:32

Yea tell it to the Australians …

Melanoma removal centres quite literally on every street corner over there!!

CloudywMeatballs · 31/07/2025 16:26

Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:49

I don't tend to follow advice either and do my own research but I read it and thought she would be in for a backlash but I was surprised by those agreeing, it's more that I was surprised at I think.

How do people disregard actual scientific evidence and proof? Baffles me.

I don't do my own research, because I'm not a scientist and don't have the expertise to do so.

I do follow advice. The advice I follow is the advice of medical professionals and experts, not so-called influencers.

junkmaail · 31/07/2025 16:26

Oh for god sake! Sam Fairs is an absolute doughnut! Why on earth are you listening to her? She’s got zero medical qualifications and is more than happy to fill her face with fillers and Botox! You know what causes skin cancer? Exposure to UV radiation! You know how to minimise skin cancer? A decent sun screen!

Venalopolos · 31/07/2025 16:25

TreeDudette · 31/07/2025 16:11

We don't use sunscreen most of the time in our house but not because it causes cancer (it doesn't!) but because of sensory issues. This means long sleeves, hats & shade are our go to generally. We manage ok in the UK and me and the DD are still white and pasty by end of August. When we go abroad we try to continue with the shade and clothes options but carry the nasty goopy cream in case. If we want to go to the beach for the day or somewhere there is no shade then we put up with the horror and apply the cream.

She is right that one can mitigate the need for suncream with a good avoidance routine but totally wrong that suncream gives cancer or that it is safe to somehow brown yourself off like a sausage every summer so you burn more slowly!

Have you tried Aldi’s aerosol sun cream? It’s absolutely changed my life in terms of sun cream and sensory issues. Not goopy, can spray on with no need to rub, easy to quickly reapply. I probably wouldn’t rely on it to then cook on a lounger all day, but for protection while walking around etc I swear by it.

Venalopolos · 31/07/2025 16:22

This is a big “conspiracy theory” at the moment.

I’m of the view that staying out of the sun entirely is probably better than wearing sun cream, as not putting chemicals on your skin is probably better than the alternative. However, if you have any sun exposure, then I think sun cream is better than not having suncream.

Also, apparently shading your eyes with hats and sunglasses also increases your need for sun cream as your eyes need to be able to see the bright/UV to deploy skin protection. I have no idea of the science behind this, but again I can believe this is true.

So I think the correct priority order is:

No sun exposure at all (although there’s a vitamin D concern here)
Sun exposure only in the early morning and late afternoon when the UV levels are low with no sun cream (to mitigate the vitamin D issue)
Sun exposure with sun cream
Sun exposure without sun cream

I suspect that the influencers are misinterpreting data to come up with the idea that it’s okay to be in the sun without sun cream.

Big caveats: I’m not a scientist and I wear SPF every day even in winter

Iloveeverycat · 31/07/2025 16:18

This was on the TV this morning. They had a Dr on saying how stupid she was.

Bikergran · 31/07/2025 16:17

Google images of skin cancer. When you've finished feeling sick, remind yourself that it is UV that is its major cause, not suncream. If she's sunning without sunscreen, she's going to look like a walnut in her old age, if she doesn't get skin cancer herself. I think that's child abuse.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 31/07/2025 16:15

TreeDudette · 31/07/2025 16:11

We don't use sunscreen most of the time in our house but not because it causes cancer (it doesn't!) but because of sensory issues. This means long sleeves, hats & shade are our go to generally. We manage ok in the UK and me and the DD are still white and pasty by end of August. When we go abroad we try to continue with the shade and clothes options but carry the nasty goopy cream in case. If we want to go to the beach for the day or somewhere there is no shade then we put up with the horror and apply the cream.

She is right that one can mitigate the need for suncream with a good avoidance routine but totally wrong that suncream gives cancer or that it is safe to somehow brown yourself off like a sausage every summer so you burn more slowly!

We're the same. I've just had radiotherapy and I'm supposed to use factor 50 for the next 12 months. I'd rather just stay inside.

Eightdayz · 31/07/2025 16:12

Perfect example of why you shouldn't follow absolute no-marks

Social darwinism in action!

TreeDudette · 31/07/2025 16:11

We don't use sunscreen most of the time in our house but not because it causes cancer (it doesn't!) but because of sensory issues. This means long sleeves, hats & shade are our go to generally. We manage ok in the UK and me and the DD are still white and pasty by end of August. When we go abroad we try to continue with the shade and clothes options but carry the nasty goopy cream in case. If we want to go to the beach for the day or somewhere there is no shade then we put up with the horror and apply the cream.

She is right that one can mitigate the need for suncream with a good avoidance routine but totally wrong that suncream gives cancer or that it is safe to somehow brown yourself off like a sausage every summer so you burn more slowly!

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/07/2025 16:04

Isn’t she the person that stole an idea from a small crafter and tried to pass it off as her own?

Listening to any influencer is the way of madness, anyway. I have no idea why they’ve somehow become leading voices of authority in so many areas. Bonkers.

Spouting horseshit about sun cream and building resilience is about what I’d expect.

Syuoo · 31/07/2025 16:02

It’s a trend at the minute, by lots of instagram types to say it causes cancer.
i had skin cancer last year, got treated by an incredible dr who is involved in all sorts of research for skin cancer. He tells me to wear spf, as does every skin cancer charity and dermatologists etc, who spend their lives researching this stuff, over some random towie star who needs a tinfoil hat. it helps prevent cancer, not cause it.

Namechangedforthiscomment · 31/07/2025 15:58

My father and his siblings grew up on a farm, outside alot, in the 60s/70s and never wore sunscreen. 3/5 of them got skin cancer in their 50s (all treated thankfully). So yeah she's an idiot. Why do people think because someone is famous they know anything about parenting/ health care?!

Butterflysunshine01 · 31/07/2025 15:53

Actually, there is some truth that going out in the very early morning sunshine does trigger protective qualities in the skin. However , suncream or not, it is important to try to stay in the shade during the hottest hours of the day. I mostly always use suncream on my child although don’t like the feeling of it on my skin myself. I don’t sunbathe and am in and out of it. But I do think some degree of sunshine is important for natural vitamin D levels esp in children.

Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:53

Disturbia81 · 31/07/2025 15:52

I can feel the sun burning my skin without cream on, it’s cooking it. She is being really irresponsible. Not just for the cancer risks but also because that’s how you go leathery and wrinkly

I know it seems contradictory as she has a brand of collagen supplements to keep skin looking youthful.....

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Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:52

gotellsomeone · 31/07/2025 15:31

She’s an idiot, there’s no such thing as building up a tolerance and the sun is more harmful than sun cream.

but the advice of covering up and playing in the shade is probably more sensible than letting kids play in the full sun all day even if they have crap sun cream on.

Yes I agree that bit is sensible advice and that most parents follow it anyway.

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Disturbia81 · 31/07/2025 15:52

I can feel the sun burning my skin without cream on, it’s cooking it. She is being really irresponsible. Not just for the cancer risks but also because that’s how you go leathery and wrinkly

Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:49

MrTiddlesTheCat · 31/07/2025 15:48

They are based on facts, just very distorted facts. American suncreams are very different to european ones due to how they're classified and restricted. This meant that a few years ago America realised it had a big problem with carcinogens being used in suncream and many had to be recalled. The problem is now resolved, although their suncreams are still less effective than ours, but that's where the reluctance to use it stems from.

Thank you for explaining that.

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Esmereldapawpatrol · 31/07/2025 15:49

I don't tend to follow advice either and do my own research but I read it and thought she would be in for a backlash but I was surprised by those agreeing, it's more that I was surprised at I think.

How do people disregard actual scientific evidence and proof? Baffles me.

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