To use sun cream?

Yeah I’m not taking advice of any kind off Sam Fairs (or however it’s spelt). I’ll be sticking wit the factor 50 for my child.

Where on earth is your ability to think @Esmereldapawpatrol ?

stop following clearly stupid vapid people. You’re just helping them create a monster and more people unable to think for themselves will listen to them.

Unfollow Samantha Faiers now. That is a load of rubbish and so so dangerous for someone who has such a following!! She should be using her platform to educate not fear monger 😳🙄

You cannot build up a tolerance to the sun or sun burn. Sun cream blocks out the harmful rays that can cause skin cancer (factor 30 blocks 97% and factor 50 blocks 98%)

I have a friend recently converted who used tanning oil for years and just had a melanoma removed (thankfully all the treatment she needed!!) and now wears factor 50 daily and actively seeks shade.

Ah I saw this online, Sam Faiers.....say no more!! Having said that I think schools have started going crazy about suncream as soon as the sun comes out. Obviously if kids are exposed for a long time then they should wear cream but I think 15 mins at playtime is fine. We do need to get our vitamin D.

‘Not using sunscreen’ because it’s bad for you is the new conspiracy theory, she probably believes in non vaccination, chemtrails and that Trump is going to save the world too. Skin cancer is on the rise, it may be because of better detection but that doesn’t mean sun rays are not harmful and is causing cancer. Factor 30 minimum and factor 50 when my kids were little and still hats, rash vests and plenty of shade.

I hate the feel of suncream and use dry oil instead, it's so much better and goes up to F50 too, my kids prefer it as it's not greasy or thick

Why are you all so shocked that sun creams contain toxic chemicals? There are plenty of toxic chemicals in the popular brands that come with an array of health issues. That cant be surprising, surely? There are safer sun creams, like mineral sun creams and tallow.. Why is it such a big deal that she protects her kids in other ways? Keeping your children or yourself out in the sun all day with 0 protection is obviously a nonsense move so the appropriate thing to do is keep them out the sun during the bulk of the day. I.e. out first thing and last..

Like a lot of these influencers, she is peddling nonsense.

Oh bloody hell, she is as thick as two short planks, so I really would NOT listen to a single thing she has to say!

This is appalling practice and potentially dangerous short and/or long term.

This is complete crap. Have a listen to the “what’s up docs” postcard episode on BBC Sounds with Drs Chris an a and Van Tulleken - they did an episode on tanning a couple of weeks ago the de bunks this nonsense.

Nobody should take advice from Sam Faiers or any reality ‘star’. None of them would win a prize as the sharpest knife in the box.

Everything is a “chemical”

She’s wrong about sunscreen.
But playing in the shade is a good idea for kids.
Saying that, I LOVE sunbathing! Always have my factor 50 on and don’t let myself burn.
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She is an idiot if she doesn't use it.. use mineral sun cream on children and yourself. Skin cancer rates have gone up not down. Avoid chemical sunscreens if you can.

She's a moron OP, don't worry about it. It's yet another facet of the anti-science, anti-vax, anti-climate change, anti-experts bollocks that is poisoning suicidal media.

Let's face it, she didn't seem like the brightest spark does she. Just because someone has a platform, doesn't mean what they say needs listening to.

I live in the country with the world's second highest rate of skin cancer. She is very ill-informed. Years ago when the dangers weren't known - I was born in the sixties - we were herded outdoors on the basis that it was "healthy". People talked about having a good tan which really meant a dark tan. A lot of my contemporaries are getting carved up removing skin cancers. I haven't sunbathed since I was 14 and wear a lot of sunblock. I visit a dermatologist every six months to be checked over. I have had two skin cancers removed - they were both round my hairline and where I didn't put sunblock. The rest of my face which got the sunblock on every day is fine. (I should have worn more hats and I do now.) I can honestly say at my age it is very easy to see who was a person who tanned. They easily look 10 plus year older than the people who used sunblock. Also, with an increased focus on avoiding sunburn by using sunblock our skin cancer death rate has fallen. Lots of campaigns to encourage people to reduce their sun exposure.

I have been lucky enough to afford very expensive MOHs surgery to minimise scarring - they cut the cancer out and then a pathologist dermatologist looks at the sample to check if the edges are clear for cancer or not - they do this before they close the wound so you're sitting round till that's done. If they get it all on the first go, they'll close. I had to have a second lot of cutting before they got clear margins and could close. These were tiny early basal cell carcinomas - and they don't just cut out a little circle - because they can't close a little circle. They have to cut out a crescent to be able to close in a line which minimises scarring. So your little cancerous dot becomes a much longer incision. I had to have some sort of flap rotation to avoid distorting the shape of my eyebrow with a specialist carefully stitching away taking his time. One of the incisions - not the MOHs one - dogeared and I had to wait for a year till the scar "matured" before a plastic surgeon could recut and revise the scar. Melanomas are much worse in terms of treatment and survival rates - depending on how early it is caught. Because of my childhood sun exposure, I've had lots of moles removed when they looked a bit dark or a bit irregular to make sure they were okay and I was lucky enough that the tests came back negative. Sounds fun, doesn't it?

I watched a documentary which featured skin cancer removal in an NHS hospital for a basal cell carcinoma and they were just cutting a hunk of skin out and hoping for the best - the woman would only find whether they'd got it all when she got the results back in 4 weeks or something. She was on her second round of surgery since the first hadn't got clear margins. It honestly looked like something out of a factory production line. Scar minimisation did not appear to feature in the ethos.

So, keep putting that sunblock on and wear a hat.

There’s been major backlash today against her saying that. What an absolute idiot she is

I have to ask where the “apparently using sun hat …” reduces protection form skin comes from

ive done a quick trawl..nowt…only that confirming my cancer /plastics team view that the BEST form of sun reeling is clothing including wide brim hat - as long as said clothing has good uv protection. Sun screen isn’t a panacea - it can be badly applied with parts of skin missed too easily, and has a short ffective shelf life that people ignore.

they should not be relied on sclusively, they simply do not give 100% protection that clothing or complete shade form sun does.

so where did this stuff come form around the magic protection that is triggered by sun on eyes…I assume it is melatonin production. Please send link…as BCC sufferer it is clearly vital for me to know this

This.

Presumably people will generally agree with influencers that they follow, because if they thought they were twats they wouldn’t follow them! So it’s not a sample of people that reflect society as a whole. If you want to know about sun cream, I’d suggest following a dermatologist rather than someone from TOWIE.

And there a 77 week wait on nhs too for Basel cell carcinomas. .. 77 weeks! Because not enough treatment for 250000 new cases per year.

aint exactly rare here either,

I’m mid 60s. I now have 4 facial scars, longest of which is 7cm due to multiple Basel cell carcinomas. They’ve all appeared in the last 8 years.

I hate heat and sun, all my life. Never sit in sun. Get allergic reaction to sun anyway (PLE) . And have to take high dose of vitamin D , clearly cos I don’t get enough sun

all it took was getting sun burnt once badly aged 9 (mum forgot suncream in 1970s ) and got a tan after 1 month interrailing when 20, when I didn’t know better (think that’s when PLE started)

sure, some people like my brother is dark hair and more melatonin. He’s older, spends his working life in sun and is wrinkly and no skin cancer. He doesn’t have “immunity” built up…just different skin type with naturally more melatonin ..and he ain’t out of woodwork yet in terms of developing skin cancer

damage to skin takes years to appear in some cases, especially BCC. Children and adolescents are when the damage is done.

also reading something recently from skin cancer specialist researcher - doesn’t matter if you burn once then tan, or tan slowly over longer time without ever burning .the skin is still being damaged and a tan is the sign of that. A tan is result of damaged cells.

whilst BCC isn’t going to kill me, my face is scarred . I have a small bald patch in my hair where a small skin graft was needed on one, I’m only in my mid sixties and at this rate my face will be very scarred if more appear. I’m constantly monitoring and my latest MOHs procedure is still healing on my upper lip in a noticable place.

ignore the idiots. The evidence is there. BCC is common, with around 1/4 million new cases per year …

yep, sunlight is important for vitamin D and we believe possibly mental well-being, but for Northern Europeans with little melatonin it needs to be managed very carefully. And don’t let kids/teens skin tan ..that’s when the damage is done the most.