To use sun cream?

Just use zinc oxide sun cream if you don’t like the chemical ones. We use Badger, it’s lovely.

This might be useful. Everything has a context and context matters www.instagram.com/reel/DMu0ftgPk9g/?igsh=Nm4wczRyNnlva3Vl

I think what some of what she’s said is valid, like the stuff around avoiding peak sun, covering skin where possible. My kids wear uv rash tops in the pools on holiday rather than sunscreen on their arms/torso because I think covering the skin in clothing is probably more effective than covering it in sun cream & with a cream you can miss bits, rash tops don’t. However there will always be bits you cannot protect and that’s where sunscreen has its place. Also I think maybe we put on factor 50 and think it’s ok to be out in the sun all day when actually we should take a break from it & sunscreen can give a bit of a false sense of security. I think as long as you aren’t exposing yourself/your children unnecessarily your fine, whether you do it via sunscreen/tops/breaks from the sun.

The same influencer shoved a load of Botox in her face 😂

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/comment-scroll-watch-burn-sunscreen-misinformation-and-its-realworld-damage

I bet she uses moisturiser, serums and makeup that contains spf

Oh god, isn't she the one who said she cured her Crohn's disease by 'natural healing'? As someone with the same condition, I know that Crohn's often goes into lengthy remissions, and that dietary adjustments can help some people, but it isn't cured, and certainly not by 'natural healing'. I wouldn't trust her on anything medical!

I didn’t say sunscreens cause cancer - I use them religiously myself. I don’t want to derail this thread because I agree with the majority of posters that this woman is off her rocker.

however, I do think it’s worth highlighting that there IS evidence that certain ingredients used in sunscreens are potentially harmful and this is my point. I think people should aware of this so they can make their own choices.

as an example, there is evidence that retinyl palmitate (found in some sunscreens sold in the UK) speeds up the development of tumours when applied in sunlight. Yes the risk may be low but if I know the risks then I can choose to avoid this ingredient if I can.

And it’s not just about cancer - there are lots of other dodgy ingredients which are potential hormone disruptors, not advised for pregnant women etc.

again - I think people should be sensible and use sunscreen. However, my original point was that not all sunscreens are created equal and I stand by that. I also agree with your point that the best sunscreen is the one people are happy to use - I just think it’s good for everyone to consider what they put in and on their bodies and make an informed decision to the best of their budget and ability.

evidently the risk of skin cancer from sun exposure + not applying suncream will be significantly higher than wearing sunscreen with a potentially carcinogenic ingredient.

She also said women shouldn’t get mammograms because mammograms cause cancer, so I wouldn’t pay attention to a word she says

As someone who has lost someone to what started as skin cancer and have seen my grandfather had his ear removed due to skin cancer, she’s a bloody idiot. This is a perfect example of why influencer culture is toxic and why you should only ever take advice from someone properly qualified to give it!

Sunshine has its benefits... Creating natural vitamin d in the body mood regulation, and sunscreen blocks that. However to really reap those benefits and reduce risk it's morning sun before 9am that research shows is good for us. Midday heat ( the really hot temps) are harmful and the harm outweighs the benefits, before the days of sunscreen cultures in the sun, you would see that was either time for a nap or indoors time, and then out in the evening again. Some cultures still harbour this. However I'm allergic to sunscreen and also sun exposure and I have no choice but to shelter from the sun.

Sunshine has its benefits... Creating natural vitamin d in the body mood regulation, and sunscreen blocks that. However to really reap those benefits and reduce risk it's morning sun before 9am that research shows is good for us. Midday heat ( the really hot temps) are harmful and the harm outweighs the benefits, before the days of sunscreen cultures in the sun, you would see that was either time for a nap or indoors time, and then out in the evening again. Some cultures still harbour this. However I'm allergic to sunscreen and also sun exposure and I have no choice but to shelter from the sun.

If you can't listen to the doctors, professsors, other experts and those who have suffered melanoma then listen to someone from the southern hemisphere where sunscreen use has been drilled into us since birth.... ALWAYS USE SUNSCREEN. And all year round.

She is thick as two planks, can't think critically and is being irresponsible by touting that utter crap and putting people, kids, in danger.

To reiterate, if a child has sunburn once it increases their chances of skin cancer by 50% in adulthood. Getting sunburned once every two years as an adult triples your risk of skin cancer. These facts come from researchers, experts, people who know their shit. Never get medical advice from a fucking so called celeb. Proper medical, researched, peer reviewed expert information is widely available online. People should just read it.

And fyi, sunscreen does not cause skin cancer. Dumbest thing I ever read by one of the dumbest people on the planet. She's embarrassing herself.

THIS is exactly why I don't have any social media. People are idiots and they believe anything they read online. Noone does their research anymore. It used to make me so angry some of the absolute shit I would read. I thought why the fuck am I doing this to myself and I deleted it all. I don't have to see what people have for their tea😴, I don't get updated with strava runs or gym posts it is absolute bliss and I wish I'd done it sooner.

If they're covered up wearing a hat and playing in the shade, then where is the problem

They’re not. They’re out playing and swimming in bikinis and swimming trunks, on the beach and in the sea in the blazing sun in Mallorca atm. She takes them in over lunchtime. They don’t even have hats or UV swimsuits on. It’s so bloody irresponsible, indefensible and downright dangerous.

To be fair, I live in a very hot place in the Carribean, the sun is directly above us and incredibly damaging, but most people's first port of call is not sunscreen.

It's shade and long sleeve linen or cotton, even for kids. Long sleeve UPF swimsuits for the kids. No one takes their child out between 10am and 6pm. Most people in my office wear a hat even just to cross the road to get a coffee etc etc. Not necessarily because sunscreen is damaging but it's greasy and it goes away when you sweat. it's impossible to keep on top of it every day. Being a bit more careful and choosing shade is the best thing to do...

I'm not saying I agree with her. But I am shocked when we go to the UK and I see parents slathering cream on kids and letting them play in the sun in midday in the park.

Liz Earle believes this too. She’s releasing a podcast about it soon (she mentioned it a couple of weeks ago)

If they're covered up wearing a hat and playing in the shade, then where is the problem.

I do wear sun cream but only on skin that is exposed.

I have to say that after a hot and sunny day, the skin that was covered up by clothing and didn't have any sunscreen on.It is always in far better condition than the skin that was exposed and had sun cream on.

Even skin that had SPF50 on, there still some freckling in a bit of darkening. The skin that was completely covered up by clothes is in perfect condition

So if she's covering her kids up with clothes and hat, what's the problem.

A suntan is the first sign of skin damage. There is no such thing as a healthy tan on white people.

https://www.skincancer.org/risk-factors/tanning/

The best sunscreen to use is whatever you are happy to use. But, there is absolutely no evidence that sunscreens cause cancer.

I’d rather put pins in my eyes than listen to anything that the likes of Sam Faiers and other conspiracy theorists bang on about, tbh. I really hope her children don’t get skin cancer in years to come because of her stupidity.

Not proven to cause cancer: Suncream

Proven to cause cancer: Exposure to UV rays from the sun/sunbeds.

If you chose to believe an influencer over scientific research, you are an idiot.

Fucking influencers 🙄 I hate them all

She is an idiot and I won't be taking parenting advice from someone who is choosing to put her kids at a much higher risk of getting skin cancer.