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To think you don’t catch a butterfly and take it round M&S

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FanofLeaves · 31/07/2025 12:32

Was just picking up a few bits in M&S and there was a girl about 8 years old or so swinging one of those butterfly net thingies off her arm. On closer inspection I saw she had one in there (not the ones you send away for, although that would be bad enough, one that had obviously been procured organically)

Her mum was busy looking at something so I said to the girl ‘oh! What a pretty butterfly. That’s a large white. I except you’re going to let it go after you’ve finished your shopping, aren’t you?’

The mum came over beaming presumably ready to hear a comment about what a fun summer holiday activity this all is, and said ‘no, we’ll take it home, keep it for a few days and observe it. It flew straight into the net so we had this ready to pop it straight into!’

‘I said ‘well I’m sure it would have been preferred to be observed in nature, where it was, not caught in a net and taken round the shops. Don’t you think it’s a bit cruel?’

Anyway she was visibly annoyed, and said ‘it’s fine. My children are learning about nature! We know what it eats!’

Anyway she steered her child away from me and said some people are just very joyless and bitter.

Yeah I know I probably sound like a busy body but I can’t bear it when parents tell their kids it’s ok to just take stuff out of nature for their own amusement. Why is it ok to do this? It’s so Victorian, to capture a creature to just look at it, no thought for the poor thing at all. Don’t get me started on why they still sell butterfly nets 😭

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neilyoungismyhero · 31/07/2025 15:44

WhereIsMyJumper · 31/07/2025 14:05

Im afraid of butterflies but not as much as moths

Yep, me too. I would have made a sharp exit from M & S.

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 15:42

spoonbillstretford · 31/07/2025 15:38

If there was someone being cruel to dog in M&S do you think people wouldn't say anything? I think most people would. You'd probably have to stop them physically attacking the owner.

Edited

Is putting a butterfly in a net and taking into M&S more or less cruel than tying up a dog to a post outside M&S? People have odd views on the different treatments of animals.

spoonbillstretford · 31/07/2025 15:38

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 14:46

I never really understand why some people get so upset about some animals but not others. A butterfly in a net outrange. Millions of enslaved dogs no issue at all. It almost like the opposite of rabbits where if they are wild it is fine to shoot and eat them but shoot a rabbit from Pets at Home and you are a heartless killer.

If there was someone being cruel to dog in M&S do you think people wouldn't say anything? I think most people would. You'd probably have to stop them physically attacking the owner.

WingingItSince1973 · 31/07/2025 15:37

Glad you spoke up. Why should one child’s enjoyment out rank the butterfly’s right to its freedom. It’s not raising a child to respect wildlife it’s raising an entitled child.

spoonbillstretford · 31/07/2025 15:33

YANBU, OP. You don't have to be idealistically pure to comment that someone else is being selfish and inconsiderate. I wouldn't detain a butterfly longer than a few seconds to have a little look. Then watch a video about it on YouTube. I eat meat but it doesn't mean I go round joyfully stepping on snails or something.

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 15:27

standtherebicycle · 31/07/2025 15:21

I love the way this thread has gone, thanks I needed a bit of a laugh. I would have said something as well OP - I'm not even vegetarian either, just a compulsively interfering old hypocritical killjoy.

To be fair being vegan isn't really enough to avoid hypocrisy. Anyone who eats non-organic food probably contributes to more insect deaths in every field than butterflies getting captured in M&S. That is a bigger driver of the 60% decline in insect populations in the last 20 years.

GottaGoToWorkTomorrow · 31/07/2025 15:25

YANBU. I haven’t seen butterfly nets but it sounds like the wings could get damaged being trapped in a net. 😔

BrummieCahoots · 31/07/2025 15:23

I agree with you. It’s a stupid mean thing to do. It’s cruel

standtherebicycle · 31/07/2025 15:21

I love the way this thread has gone, thanks I needed a bit of a laugh. I would have said something as well OP - I'm not even vegetarian either, just a compulsively interfering old hypocritical killjoy.

Strictlymad · 31/07/2025 15:21

Gently catching observing afew hours maybe educational. Swinging round m and s and keeping for days- not ok!

bumblingbovine49 · 31/07/2025 15:19

AhBiscuits · 31/07/2025 13:43

One fewer fucking cabbage white to destroy my vegetables. Good luck to her.

😂(in a totaly agreeing with you way!)

FanofLeaves · 31/07/2025 15:15

MzHz · 31/07/2025 15:14

Well @FanofLeaves perhaps this is where you recap on the lesson you ought to have paid more attention to; to keep your opinions to yourself.

you went on and on and on. 🙄

Sorry what lesson was that? I must have been off that day.

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MzHz · 31/07/2025 15:14

Well @FanofLeaves perhaps this is where you recap on the lesson you ought to have paid more attention to; to keep your opinions to yourself.

you went on and on and on. 🙄

FanofLeaves · 31/07/2025 15:13

3bluellamas · 31/07/2025 15:07

David Attenborough isn't vegan..

Fuck him and his hypocritical animal conservation efforts. What a wanker

Well said 👏🏻 and Chris Packham only became vegan six years ago. I guess fuck all his efforts prior to that.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/07/2025 15:09

hexagongoldbox · 31/07/2025 12:38

That’s horrible 😢

Absolutely!

Catsandcannedbeans · 31/07/2025 15:08

Mine used to bring in bugs and keep them as pets they always “escaped” once they had gone to bed. Died down when we got the cat, she is a lot more interesting to them than bugs. I agree YNBU, but unfortunately we can’t stop other parents from doing things we disagree with.

3bluellamas · 31/07/2025 15:07

gotellsomeone · 31/07/2025 12:40

I would find your view point hypocritical unless you were. I am and would be upset by this, not enough to say something though.

David Attenborough isn't vegan..

Fuck him and his hypocritical animal conservation efforts. What a wanker

Waitingfordoggo · 31/07/2025 15:06

I wouldn’t like this but probably wouldn’t say anything because I fear confrontation.

I also don’t kill spiders, flies, wasps or bees, and I don’t think people should keep pet animals in cages. I don’t visit zoos either and I think Seaworld is appalling.

I didn’t realise I wasn’t allowed to have these views as a meat eater. I don’t fancy becoming vegan so I guess I’ll just have to start eating butterflies and spiders so that my philosophy makes sense to the vegan complainers.

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 31/07/2025 15:06

AhBiscuits · 31/07/2025 13:43

One fewer fucking cabbage white to destroy my vegetables. Good luck to her.

I did consider posting something similar myself!

Scorchio84 · 31/07/2025 15:05

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 14:55

I agree. It is equally shocking you can buy an ex-live chicken for less in a supermarket. If it makes you feel better I once had Peruvian neighbours who got banned from Pets at Home - it turns out you can only buy so many Guinea Pigs in a year before they start asking questions.

I think it's against an actual law (maybe in The Netherlands? Or Switzerland?) to own/buy one Guinea Pig, they need company, same sex unless you want consequences

FanofLeaves · 31/07/2025 15:04

NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 31/07/2025 15:03

There are posters up now in some Cornish harbours which is nice to see.

In Cromer too! About how to release them, not over crowding them and such. It’s something I guess, at least it might make people think.

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NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 31/07/2025 15:04

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 15:02

Yeap - and the food they cook for them on the BBQ smelt delicious!

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🤣🤣🤣. But the price of them, and there’s next to no meat on them. Pork would be cheaper.

NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 31/07/2025 15:03

Ddakji · 31/07/2025 13:54

Well, I hate seeing crabs jammed into buckets for children’s fun, even if they are released, but I’ve never gone up to kids crabbing and lectured them about it.

There are posters up now in some Cornish harbours which is nice to see.

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 15:02

NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 31/07/2025 15:01

Well that was nice of your neighbours to be rescuing them and running a Guinea pig sanctuary. 👍🏻

Yeap - and the food they cook for them on the BBQ smelt delicious!

NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 31/07/2025 15:01

Bumblebee72 · 31/07/2025 14:55

I agree. It is equally shocking you can buy an ex-live chicken for less in a supermarket. If it makes you feel better I once had Peruvian neighbours who got banned from Pets at Home - it turns out you can only buy so many Guinea Pigs in a year before they start asking questions.

Well that was nice of your neighbours to be rescuing them and running a Guinea pig sanctuary. 👍🏻