To ask anyone in the NHS how day surgery lists are determined?

You’ve been rude and insulting to other posters as well as about the staff who will be (attempting) to care for you tomorrow….

Not the question but when I had a private operation, I was self financing and was quoted a price for the package. They told me I would be done first as if I had to stay in overnight they would have to pay for it. The people having a private operation who had private health insurance could always claim for an overnight stay on their insurance.
I was having an operation for a broken arm. I had already been nil by mouth 3 nights in a row on the NHS when I drew the conclusion that my arm was always going to be at the back of the queue and would fix itself in a bad position and when I eventually had the NHS operation they would have to break it before they could fix it.

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If you are out of control and anxious then that’s understandable and you need to ask the staff for help - they’ll have seen this before and can give you something to calm your nerves while you wait for your surgery. Anxiety is no excuse for the attitude and lack of concern for others you’ve displayed here, so if posters have insulted you it’s probably because you’re so utterly and breathtakingly rude and entitled. I’m out of this thread because a) I’m having trouble believing it’s real and b) if it is, it’s a thoroughly depressing indictment of the me me me attitude we see so often here.

in general children are operated on in specialist centres so not usual to have children and adults on same list.
other than that diabetics are first on a list. After that it’s up to the surgeons preference. Some put difficult cases first to get them over with, others
do easy cases first in case the difficult cases take longer than expected. Then patients who will go home the same day are usually early in the list so that they can get home in the afternoon, but sometimes if there’s a bed shortage patients who need an overnight bed go first so they are more likely to get a bed. Sometimes particular equipment is needed for an operation that may only be available at a particular time. So can’t really predict the order of a list unless you know the surgeons preference!
Doi- Surgeon.

No. Getting through the list and making sure all patients have had the surgery they need is the priority, not pandering to people like you who think because you’ve paid more tax than the person in the next bed you should get some sort of priority. You’ve already decided that if you’re there past 2pm you’re walking out. Good luck with explaining why to the surgeon whose list you were on, and even more good luck with getting another date any time soon. The entitlement is so breathtaking I’m beginning to think this is just not real.

No you dont

Your tax and NI that you have paid your working life will barely scratch the sides of the cost of an op

Go look at how much it would cost to go private - ie not subsidised by the rest of the tax/NI paying population

So you are going to be hungry for a while

Yup. Have seen some really tricky ones (and if you’re having them all out that can be a right old laugh!).

Well done OP Keep watching - it will be a great distraction and then tomorrow you can spend your time piecing it together.

If you have been told there is a morning list and an afternoon list my expectation is that you will only have to wait until the afternoon if there is a problem in the morning that they can't control. If this does happen then yes it will be frustrating but it won't be deliberate.

Lots of deep breaths and take a book you've already read and love. Familiarity can really help.

Wishing you all the best.

Also put it this way, if any of the prior cases had to be cancelled, you might get done earlier as you are simple and easy, but this would only be possible if you were physically in the building on a bed.

Who is cancelling ? If they’ve called you in for surgery it’s because they have arranged it. Have you any idea how much planning it takes ? Under normal circumstances the only way it will be cancelled is if you decide to leave, which it sounds as though you’re planning to do the second you’re waiting longer than some arbitrary time you’ve already decided. Grow up.

It might get cancelled if urgent cases come in.

asking how long you may wait is like asking how long a piece of string is. It depends on the hospital, do they have separate operating rooms for day cases vs emergencies, do they have separate operating rooms for children and adults etc etc.

stop being an entitled twat and wait like everyone else.

Destination X looks really interesting, I'll give it a go.

If you struggle to sleep overnight, do try the 'Nothing Much Happens' podcasts. They'll occupy your brain enough to stop any overthinking, but not enough to keep you awake. Plus Kathryn Nikolai's voice is like a gentle hug.

Oh I know. That's how I ended up with a GA for mine. But it was still only 40 minutes and outpatient. It really can't be the most awkward in the day, can it?
And really requiring the person to be fasting for so much longer if the operation is late afternoon?

Grow up.

Where have you been when the stress that the NHS is under had been constantly in the news?

I can't think of anything more inconsiderate and childish than walking out if a hospital when you're booked for surgery, because 'it's not fair' that you can't eat.

Are you the same OP with the anxious, inconsiderate dad? Seems like you're as bad as each other, if so.

So has everyone else who has arrived for surgery. If it’s NHS you are no more entitled than anyone else. And to be fair you sound difficult and quite entitled. If you leave against medical advice before your surgery you’ll likely go to the bottom of the list again. And just because your leaflet says that you’ll be in the morning (which I find strange) doesn’t necessarily guarantee it. If you’ve managed to secure a date for your surgery, leaving before it’s completed because you’re not happy with the order of surgery is massively unfair to those who are still waiting and would happily have taken your slot.