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To ask anyone in the NHS how day surgery lists are determined?

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ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 14:43

As above

OP posts:
ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 08:19

Rosscameasdoody · 31/07/2025 08:08

Is that last this morning though OP ? There will be more than three people waiting for surgery surely and if you’re last on the morning list you won’t be waiting all day, as you had feared. Did you ask the anaesthetist about prescribing something to ease your anxiety ?

Edited

I’ve told everyone I’m anxious but they’ve not offered to prescribe anything - I’ve been given paracetamol and omeprazol. There’s a “kid” (17) and a woman with heart issues before me, so I don’t have high hopes

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 31/07/2025 08:08

ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 07:58

I’m last on the list. My mum asked at reception as she left and they told her I was “third”, so she text me that. Then of course the anaesthetist turned up and told me that third is actually last. Fun

Is that last this morning though OP ? There will be more than three people waiting for surgery surely and if you’re last on the morning list you won’t be waiting all day, as you had feared. Did you ask the anaesthetist about prescribing something to ease your anxiety ?

ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 07:58

I’m last on the list. My mum asked at reception as she left and they told her I was “third”, so she text me that. Then of course the anaesthetist turned up and told me that third is actually last. Fun

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SpiritedFlame · 31/07/2025 07:48

Good luck today OP. I would try to explain (or ask your Mum to if you would find it difficult) about the high level of anxiety you are experiencing when the doctor and anaesthetist come round.

Even if they can't change your place on the list, it may be that you can be kept more in the loop and also I don't know about pre meds for day surgery but maybe they can.

Wishing you all the best.

ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 07:44

WanderingWisteria · 31/07/2025 07:07

I hope it goes smoothly today, OP.
When you arrive, I suggest asking one of the staff to talk you through what is likely to happen today, what the variables are and what you can & can’t do. They will be used to having patients who are ND and certainly used to patients who are nervous.
If you haven’t already left, unless your letter says something about what you should or shouldn’t take, make sure you’ve got your phone, headphones, charger, are wearing comfortable clothes and are wearing layers as, whilst hospitals are often boiling, they can be freezing in places too. If you need to take something for you hands to do, then do. And perhaps a blanket or shawl so that you can wrap that around you & create a bit of a cocoon for yourself which might help you to feel that you can block out the other people. Or perhaps you might like to wear a hoodie and have the hood up. Even if I’m waiting somewhere like A & E, I find it easier if I can make my space mine and block out others

It’s bloody freezing! I grabbed my jumper last minute and im glad I did. My mum thinks she saw where they signed me in that im 5th or 6th on the list, but I didn’t get the chance to ask

OP posts:
WanderingWisteria · 31/07/2025 07:07

I hope it goes smoothly today, OP.
When you arrive, I suggest asking one of the staff to talk you through what is likely to happen today, what the variables are and what you can & can’t do. They will be used to having patients who are ND and certainly used to patients who are nervous.
If you haven’t already left, unless your letter says something about what you should or shouldn’t take, make sure you’ve got your phone, headphones, charger, are wearing comfortable clothes and are wearing layers as, whilst hospitals are often boiling, they can be freezing in places too. If you need to take something for you hands to do, then do. And perhaps a blanket or shawl so that you can wrap that around you & create a bit of a cocoon for yourself which might help you to feel that you can block out the other people. Or perhaps you might like to wear a hoodie and have the hood up. Even if I’m waiting somewhere like A & E, I find it easier if I can make my space mine and block out others

youalright · 31/07/2025 05:58

ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 05:44

Well it’s today. I’ve never felt this anxious in my life, but I did manage to go to sleep without crying 😂

Well done op il be thinking of you. Im going to work this morning and im sure when I get back this afternoon it will all be over. Good luck not that you need it you will be absolutely fine. You got this xx

ScuderiaSedici · 31/07/2025 05:44

Well it’s today. I’ve never felt this anxious in my life, but I did manage to go to sleep without crying 😂

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FriendlyGreenAlien · 31/07/2025 00:54

Husband needed surgery after an accident. I sat with him all day, went home at 7pm. He didn’t go in to theatre till 10.30pm. Theatres have so many variables to manage, please just let them work in the way that they know makes best use of time and other resources while keeping people safe. Yes you might be uncomfortable. Yes the thought of surgery is stressful. One day, to make a big difference in your life.

Negroany · 31/07/2025 00:28

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 18:53

As I’ve been told multiple times, I’ll be last on the list. That’ll be a 6-7pm theatre slot.

This is just nonsense, you're catastrophising (aka: making stuff up).

I've been in day surgery, twice that I recall I was on the morning list, once the afternoon. All "simple" cases. Both the morning ones I was in recovery by lunchtime, the afternoon one I was late on the list (around 3pm, list started at 2pm, but I had to be there at 1pm I think) but was still home around 6pm.

If you're on the morning list and not in until 6pm then something out of people's control has gone badly wrong and you should just be grateful it's not you suffering the potentially fatal consequences of that. You're just a bit hungry.

Pop a KitKat in your bag for after you come out. You'll probably be out by 10am wondering why you worked yourself up so much.

Custardcream84 · 30/07/2025 23:55

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 18:20

So the rest of us just get screwed over? Seems fair to leave someone anxious and starving till 6pm

What an overly entitled attitude. Firstly you’re on a morning list - no one is leaving you until 6pm so calm down. Secondly if you are so worried have a snack late at night - one minute you talk of gorging on food the next about starving. Thirdly it is a clinical decision about what goes first so you just have to suck it up.

it’s also incredibly crass talking of starving when you are being asked to skip breakfast at a time when 2 million people are being deliberately starved and babies are dying of starvation.

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 30/07/2025 23:48

Op, you are being ridiculous and entitled. If you want to call the shots, go private. If you're using the NHS, you'll abide by their way of doing things.

Day surgery can be the luck of the draw, and then there's a possibility all operations are cancelled due to an emergency. It's just one of those things.

Waterbaby41 · 30/07/2025 23:47

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 17:54

I pay enough in tax and I’ve waited long enough to not be left fasting until 5 or 6pm the next day.

What a bloody stupid thing to say.

Dreamondreaminon · 30/07/2025 23:36

Pixiepop14 · 30/07/2025 23:22

Sorry I’ve just read your replies and I can understand why you’re stressed. If it helps, here are the timings from my surgery last week (I was in the day surgery unit but had an overnight stay)

12pm - admitted, they ticked my name off the list and asked me to sit in the waiting room
12.20pm - anaesthetist came to see me, said I was first on the list, asked me some questions
12.30pm - admission questions, lasted about 30 minutes, a lot of stuff repeated from pre op so don’t worry! Got changed into compression socks and gown
12.40pm - visit from surgeon
1.15pm - walked to surgery

I wore deodorant no issue, I also wore face cream and some cocoa butter as I have dry skin! I also wore my earrings and they covered them with tape, my surgeon did my procedure first as more complex and worked to simplest procedure last. Everything was timed well and nothing overran. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Good luck x

If you've read all of the OP's answers, you'll see she's not really asking for advice or experience, she isn't even asking for answers, what she really wants, is to be seen first because in her eyes, she matters more than anyone else and she shouldn't have to pay for the fact other people are less healthy than her and have more complex surgeries, oh and also because she pays taxes. She just wants control over everything and can't bear the thought of not eating for a few hours in a row, because she just doesn't want to.
Her level of self awareness and humility is zero, so whatever anyone says is falling on deaf ears.

Pixiepop14 · 30/07/2025 23:22

Sorry I’ve just read your replies and I can understand why you’re stressed. If it helps, here are the timings from my surgery last week (I was in the day surgery unit but had an overnight stay)

12pm - admitted, they ticked my name off the list and asked me to sit in the waiting room
12.20pm - anaesthetist came to see me, said I was first on the list, asked me some questions
12.30pm - admission questions, lasted about 30 minutes, a lot of stuff repeated from pre op so don’t worry! Got changed into compression socks and gown
12.40pm - visit from surgeon
1.15pm - walked to surgery

I wore deodorant no issue, I also wore face cream and some cocoa butter as I have dry skin! I also wore my earrings and they covered them with tape, my surgeon did my procedure first as more complex and worked to simplest procedure last. Everything was timed well and nothing overran. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Good luck x

tipsyraven · 30/07/2025 23:16

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 17:52

And I’ll be fasting that long because of when I eat dinner?

They usually tell you when you have to fast from. Last time it was midnight for me and the pre op staff told me to eat something just before, toast or something light.

TaupeMember · 30/07/2025 23:06

Glad you're feeling calmer op, and.have found a good tv programme to get into.

Whether youre first or last, it'll soon be over.
Totally worth it to improve your quality of life

Pixiepop14 · 30/07/2025 23:05

At my surgery last week, I was first as I was the most complex.

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2025 23:01

justasking111 · 30/07/2025 22:53

Good luck with the operation tomorrow

I second this OP. Clearly you’re anxious, but again that’s no excuse for the level of rudeness and entitlement. It will be fine. Based on recent experience, general anaesthetics are really good these days - quick to take effect and quick to recover from, and no sickness afterwards. But as I said, if you’re anxious don’t be afraid to ask for something to calm you.

AnotherDayanotherNameChangeX · 30/07/2025 22:57

I was, otherwise I wouldn’t have said it 🤦🏼‍♀️

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2025 22:56

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 22:55

No, you weren’t.

All together now MN - ‘oh yes she was’ !!

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 22:55

AnotherDayanotherNameChangeX · 30/07/2025 22:50

@ScuderiaSedici sorry, I was going to edit and apologise as I hadn’t read the full thread and was unaware that you think you may be autistic. Whilst I do sympathise, having autism isn’t an excuse to be rude.

i understand you’re anxious, as a lot of people are about surgery, but the ‘why can’t the staff just do their job properly’ is rude and unnecessary.. anyway, I do sincerely hope the operation goes well tomorrow

No, you weren’t.

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Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2025 22:54

ScuderiaSedici · 30/07/2025 22:45

But this thread is an anonymous place to vent. If I had walked into the hospital and started insulting staff, fair enough. But I hadnt.

It might be anonymous OP, but you started by asking a question and then just got angrier and seemingly more entitled with each post.

This is AIBU and it’s brutal at the best of times, but you’re giving posters more than enough ammunition to tear you to shreds. It’s not just about venting, it’s about listening to the advice given and with each reply you just seem to be doubling down on your unpleasantness. There will be people here who work within the NHS and have to put up with similar shit on a daily basis, and there will also be people who are still waiting for surgery, who are understandably angry at the entitlement of threatening to walk out if you don’t get your own way - and the comment about the amount of tax you pay was unwise to say the least.

You’ve brought the condemnation on yourself. If you’re anxious then ask when you arrive for some sedation to help you cope - for your sake and that of the staff tasked with caring for you.

justasking111 · 30/07/2025 22:53

Good luck with the operation tomorrow

AnotherDayanotherNameChangeX · 30/07/2025 22:50

@ScuderiaSedici sorry, I was going to edit and apologise as I hadn’t read the full thread and was unaware that you think you may be autistic. Whilst I do sympathise, having autism isn’t an excuse to be rude.

i understand you’re anxious, as a lot of people are about surgery, but the ‘why can’t the staff just do their job properly’ is rude and unnecessary.. anyway, I do sincerely hope the operation goes well tomorrow

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