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Why are the Arab countries tougher on Hamas than we are in the UK?

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Helpins · 30/07/2025 08:00

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/world-news/qatar-saudi-arabia-egypt-join-calls-for-hamas-to-disarm-and-exit-gaza-to-end-war-with-israel/

Qatar, Saudi and Egypt are putting increasing pressure on Hamas to disarm and accept a ceasefire to end the war.

Meanwhile Starmer is giving Hamas exactly what they want, to be recognised with a state. Why is the UK so weak? Where are our sanctions or pressure on Hamas? Why is it down to the Arab states only to actually try to fix this mess by removing Hamas?

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt join calls for Hamas to disarm and exit Gaza to end war with Israel

Arab nations — including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt — joined calls Tuesday for Hamas to disarm and give up its grip on Gaza to end the 21-month war.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/world-news/qatar-saudi-arabia-egypt-join-calls-for-hamas-to-disarm-and-exit-gaza-to-end-war-with-israel/

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Nchangeo · 30/07/2025 08:15

VillaDiodati · 30/07/2025 08:10

OP said recognised WITH a state not AS a state.

I think it’s because you have to assume the people are voting Hamas in because their policy aim is to be recognised as a state.

It’s a bit like here with reform. Most people don’t want to vote for them. But if they are the only people who will sort immigration then it’s looking increasingly like that’s how they will vote.

Jennps · 30/07/2025 08:13

Let’s not kid ourselves that this is some kind of good vs evil battle. These things are always planned and orchestrated.

Israel doesn’t like Hamas. Hamas are basically permanent resident guests in Qatar. Qatar is the west’s biggest bestie in the Middle East, so much so that it gave Trump a private jet as a gift and one half the real estate in western capitals.

Go figure.

randomchap · 30/07/2025 08:13

Helpins · 30/07/2025 08:09

Yes whilst it’s still run by Hamas. It means the Uk will be recognising Hamas as the government of Palestine.

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So you want the Palestinians to choose a new government whilst starving to death?

Or to have a new government forced on them by an occupying army?

VillaDiodati · 30/07/2025 08:10

OP said recognised WITH a state not AS a state.

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Helpins · 30/07/2025 08:09

randomchap · 30/07/2025 08:06

Starmer isn't recognising Hamas as a state, he is recognising Palestine.

Frankly if you can't see the difference then you shouldn't be commenting

Yes whilst it’s still run by Hamas. It means the Uk will be recognising Hamas as the government of Palestine.

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JSMill · 30/07/2025 08:08

randomchap · 30/07/2025 08:06

Starmer isn't recognising Hamas as a state, he is recognising Palestine.

Frankly if you can't see the difference then you shouldn't be commenting

Exactly.

randomchap · 30/07/2025 08:06

Starmer isn't recognising Hamas as a state, he is recognising Palestine.

Frankly if you can't see the difference then you shouldn't be commenting

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Helpins · 30/07/2025 08:04

And for what’s its worth, I want a two state solution. But obviously not whilst Hamas is still in power.

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