To think the Lionesses' Outfits in this Picture are Ridiculous?

Opening doors for the daughters of MNers and yet they focus on one small negative. I’d be forever grateful!

I don't give a fuck dear.

That reflects badly on newspapers and journalism, not Chloe Kelly.

It was one woman.

Swearing, where someone has to apologise for you, is always poor. It’s a bit sad anyone swears at such an event. Guess these women are not such great role models!

What, they’ve told you they were unhappy with them?

You don't get it. She doesn't have to 'give' them anything. She's a woman in the public eye and they would have found something negative to report. If it hadn't been swearing it would have been something else. If she had been confident, they'd have called her cocky. If she'd been crying too hard to speak, they'd have said she was overly emotional and it just goes to show that women can't be rational. If she had shouted and punched the air they would have called her aggressive.

I really hope you're going to reflect on the strength of your reaction here. You've said that it was 'disgusting', 'really stupid', a 'complete embarrassment', it's 'spoilt' everything and 'diminished' the event.

You sure about that?

@Radioundermypillow It’s actually a shame they didn’t give a shit about the suits though! No idea who designed them but it didn’t suit most of them. There should be some pride in clothes even if you don’t give a shit about most things. There are much better cuts for trousers that would have been more flattering. Do they have no advice?

they are football players, wrapped up in the joy of winning another euro, back to back, smashing boundaries and sexism and overjoyed at winning and a parade and a visit to no 10... if i was in the mix of that i wouldnt give a monkeys about what i was wearing. i would be living the dream!!

I’m sure she regrets it but how depressing (yet predictable) that the press have decided to run with that one negative angle. There were dozens of positive things they could have chosen to lead with.

@PlumpAndDeliciousFatcat Of course but I would have been very upset if she’d done this. I teach her to speak properly especially when she’s making any kind of public speech. I didn’t say it cancelled out the achievement. I just think it spoilt it and it’s disappointing that she’s given the press the opportunity to focus on something negative.

This.
I've been here for years and am usually pretty robust when it comes to MN but some of the threads since Sundays incredible win, including (presumably women) posters desperately posting statistics from teenage boys running times to prove that women athletes aren't as good, posters tying themselves in knots over why the men's team are still superior even though they've won fuck all and this bollocks about low heels and hems actually brings me down.

Of course there were. The British press (and their readership) will never miss an opportunity to tear down a young, successful sportsperson. Bonus points when it’s a woman. Swearing is so unfeminine and women only deserve a place in public life if they behave impeccably.

Do you truly believe that one word is sufficiently disgusting to spoil the team’s whole achievement? One word is enough to outweigh the achievement of Kelly twice scoring the winning goal in a major international tournament at the age of 27?

It’s completely fair enough to dislike swearing. It would be perfectly proportionate to say that you would prefer she hadn’t sworn but that it doesn’t ultimately cancel out everything that they have achieved, especially as she has apologised. You say you have a footballing daughter. Don’t teach her that all her achievements can be destroyed with a single slip-up.

The beige looked nice on Michelle Agyemang I thought. They weren't the most amazing outfits but fair play to the girls for not giving a shit and being appreciatve to the sponsors.

@HighLadyofTheNightCourt there were at least 7 newspapers leading the story with her ‘F bomb’ and featuring it in their headlines. I think that’s a shame for her and her teammates. It was a really stupid thing to do.

Ha ha. If your daughter plays football seriously she will have heard worse (my dd was on the talent pathway so came up through county football).

No one says women are not good enough at womens sport! Who listens to Joey Barton? Women need to get off social media if he bothers them. Honestly he’s irrelevant. I thought they looked dreadful too. Boring beige.

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And not only have they been great role models throughout the tournament many of them are doing this alongside university degrees and training for other careers. All of this with the constant social media narrative telling them they’re not good enough because they’re women.

They’re incredible role models. Look at how much they support each other and work as a team. It’s wonderful to watch. They were respectful to each other, other players and the referees. Fabulous sporting role models.

Swearing doesn’t diminish that. Surely as a parent you can explain that adults sometimes swear, especially in exciting or emotional situations. It’s not a big deal AND she apologised.

They are footballers, not models! I expect a lot of them are very aware that if they wear anything even slightly sexy, they will be subjected to abuse for showing off their, no doubt enviably, athletic figures… When you have idiots like Joey Barton loudly denouncing their achievements it’s probably best to stick to unremarkable clothes!

Then you all need to lighten up and enjoy the moment rather than picking one tiny part of the celebrations to get het up about. There’s so much more you could be focusing on.

@Onleemoi but it does. I’ve got a very keen footballer daughter who plays at county level. Her team were all watching and some parents had taken their kids to London. We are all for supporting these women. Not looking to tear them down. She’s done that herself. There were several comments about her swearing when we should be focusing on the football so it certainly diminished it here and I’m sure we weren’t the only ones.

If it hadn’t been a single swear word it would have been something else. There would have been criticism if she had punched the air, or not smiled enough, or pulled an unattractive grimace. There will always be something that they can find. There are just too many people who don’t think women should take up space in public life, and sadly many of those people are women themselves.