To think the Lionesses' Outfits in this Picture are Ridiculous?

The fact that you would refer to anyone at all, regardless of who they are, as 'professional biscuit tasters' @EviesHat is pretty appalling and speaks volumes. Come on.

It’s not, though. You said that the women looked like professional biscuit tasters rather than professional sportswomen. That was a direct judgment on the appearance of their bodies in the clothing, which you feel justified in making because we all live in a society where women’s bodies are public property.

You aren’t the first MNer to make an ill-advised post after midnight and you won’t be the last. I can tell, however, that you’ve decided to double-down on this and would sooner combust than acknowledge your poorly-chosen words which crossed the line from critiquing the clothes to criticising the bodies inside them. I’ll therefore bid you a good morning.

Well not really. Many, many young women but clothes in Primark, Shein etc because it's what they can afford. Neither could be described as 'well finished' and the fashionable 'fit' at the moment is pretty shapeless.

I’m sure this group have better things on their minds than uneven hems and appeasing other women’s fashion sense, thank fuck.

Oh this is a VERY funny thread now I've seen the picture - its literally whats fashionable at the moment! And for you to find it so horrendous you've made a thread about it means that your own style is probably extremely dated, you know, if we're commenting on what other people choose to wear...

Apparently not. Shit isn't it?

I think they look absolutely fine as well. Not so keen on the ankle socks with the shorts but I am too old for that look.

Same! They look like a smarter version of how most of the young women in my office dress!

It is. It’s a comment about the OUTFITS which look sized for people some ten stones heavier than the wearers.

Amazing how you seem to think that criticism of an employer’s choice of staff uniform is criticism of the employees wearing it.

Thing is - a lot of the criticism of the tailoring or fit on this thread has been calling it unflattering as opposed to pointing out practical issues with the fit (eg it’s too long so they’ll trip etc). It underlies an underlying perception that women dress to look slim/‘attractive’ etc.

Plus I imagine the lionesses were probably too busy focusing they’re input on winning the tournament as without that they wouldn’t be having a reception to wear their suits to anyway so it would all be irrelevant.

This you?

Maybe, but most people buy clothes that fit and are finished well! 😂

Will we ever move on from talking about what women look like? I couldn't care less what they wore.

They don’t look fat and I’ve never claimed they did. That one’s on you.

They DO look like they’ve been given a rag-tag bag of off-cuts from the bargain bin though.

That’s a lot of words to say that you feel completely justified in saying that they look fat in their clothes.

but I very much doubt that women in their 20s with their own strong sense of style, would freely choose to go out in a beige polyester trouser suit with elbow length jacket sleeves.

Really? Have you been out much recently? Beige, baggy clothes are the look of the day. Apparently. 😊 Do I like it? Not really, but I'm not a young woman in my 20s anymore.

If the team really were in charge of their outfits you think at least some of them might have chosen something with neat, even hems, correctly sized shoulders and properly finished seams, wouldn’t you?

Unless, of course, you think all the women on the team are totally incapable of dressing themselves.

You are feeding the misogyny. Who gives a sh*t what they’re wearing? Would you have commented on a men’s team attire?

Obviously it doesn’t really matter what they look like but I think everyone looks okay except for the two in shorts. They look a little bit like old fashioned schoolboys.

Amazing how many of those complaining that the people who are criticising the outfits are displaying internalised misogyny, totally blind to the fact that by claiming this they are defining the female players by their clothes.

Do I believe the Lionesses chose to wear those clothes from their own free will? No I do not.

Those outfits are part of the official team uniform. Employees are not responsible for the uniform choices of their employers.

According to press releases the collection is the responsibility of either Maddy Evans, Director of M&S Woman, or Lisa Ilis, Head of Womenswear Design at M&S. There’s mention of ‘input’ by the Lionesses, but I very much doubt that women in their 20s with their own strong sense of style, would freely choose to go out in a beige polyester trouser suit with elbow length jacket sleeves.

Criticising the poor fit of the outfits worn to Downing Street is NOT a criticism of the women wearing them, the responsibility for those clothes lies firmly at the door of M&S. Compare the fit of the ones worn in the official fashion shoot to those worn on the street - not to mention the uneven hems!!

Not read the whole thread, but I thought the clothes did M & S no favours as they looked badly made, with puckered seams.

I' ve seen plenty of pics of the same Lionesses at awards events very dolled up in "conventional" feminine outfits, In this situation... they have been travelling, they went for a group look that was comfortable, sensible footwear (those feet are very valuable) and probably the outfits required minimal ironing or fabric care to pull out of the bag after many hours of travelling !! It's a formal centre of government and they showed it respect by not turning up looking like they want to go clubbing.

If their legs were on show with sexy dresses that would be ok but legs on show wearing shorts is not ok. Like... wtaf is that perspective?

They look fine to me !

ps: they literally wear outfits that look a lot like what Angela Raynor has worn to work that day, too. The photos look great.

@BasilParsley

youre absolutely right, OP!

They all should all be in a nice dress - just below the knee- and some heeled pumps. They need to be more lady like. None of this baggy stuff.

They 'represented' the country when they won the UEFA Women's Euro, for the second time in a row!

Tailored navy trousers would look very old-fashioned - paler baggy trousers are more fashionable IMO.

I thought they looked great!