To think the Lionesses' Outfits in this Picture are Ridiculous?

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Ok, so you have no idea how seams are meant to look.

I can't tell if this is meant as an insult 🤔

@Snorlaxo ”The women are athletes and not models so unlikely to care much about the fashion side of things.”

Really?!

Current & recent Lioness footballers fashion contracts:

• Leah Williamson - Gucci, Calvin Klein
• Chloe Kelly - Calvin Klein
• Mary Earps - Victoria’s Secret
• Alessia Russo - Gucci

Both teams look like junior members of SLT at an Academy Trust Awayday. But at least the male team's clothing looks like it's been designed to fit them, rather than having run out of material after making the trousers and deciding that savings could be made by using offcuts for sleeves.

Lesbian Chic

Exactly. Shock horror - someone's noticed they had 'improperly finished seams'. The world is coming to an end!

I'm sure they're perfectly capable of dressing themselves. They can probably manage to put on their football boots, even if they have to tie up the laces themselves. I'd also hope they've got more important things to do than spend time criticizing other women for 'improperly finished seams'. FFS.

I'd have thought that if they were deeply unhappy about the clothes then they would've refused to have worn them. What's the worst that would've happened in that case? It's not like M&S is going to take the trophy off them as punishment.

This is so disheartening that womens sporting achievements are being reduced down to clothes, judgement on low heeled shoes and mean comments about professional biscuit eaters.

Just my thoughts on what you meant if you didn't elaborate.

Indeed.

I'm also one who finds the OP'S comment "so they go to Downing Street to celebrate their win with the high and mighty of the land ..." somewhat loaded.

Why did you feel the need, OP, to make such a nasty comment about these women being given a reception at Downing St to honour their amazing achievement?

2023

I do prefer the 2023 collection:
https://corporate.marksandspencer.com/media/press-releases/introducing-marks-spencers-debut-fa-collection-england-senior-womens-team

They are baggy that is the style and as for uneven hems well she is walking/stepping so of course her trousers are going to be uneven and it might be a badly taken photograph or the way she is standing in the other photograph.

These are ill-fitting and poorly made garments. Look at the uneven hems on the trousers.

"Are they trying make them look like men because women's football shouldn't be allowed" .... jeez we are in the 21stCentury you know. What in your mind thinks women shouldn't be playing football?

Our opinion on what they’re wearing is irrelevant. If it turns out that they were unhappy with the clothes then absolutely, a discussion should be had about the designs they were given to choose from. If they were happy with them, then there’s no issue.

I'm not keen on this either, for basically the same reason: they're dressed a bit old for their age, and it doesn't really reflect their spirit, energy, beauty and athleticism. The colours are dreary and the fits are neither slim-fitting and chic nor properly oversized or interestingly structured.
It's an M&S problem, let's be honest.

Thank you. Exactly this.

I think what you meant is they should be looking more "feminine: and wearing something that you feel reflects that

Oh, do you? I didn't realise we were in the presence of a mind reader.

Never let the 'stylists' take over!

This is such an embarrassing thread. Mumsnet is viewed worldwide. Op is just playing into the misogynists' hands.
Yes, I get it, we should be able to discuss clothes etc but with people like Joey Barton and Andrew Tate as well as a mum and her two children being another victim of murder suicide this weekend, I think we should all consider the effects of what we're saying.

But clearly the team members who chose to wear the shorts, disagree with you.

There was a collection of clothing from which the Lionesses could choose. Some went for the black, fitted, chic look. Some went for the baggy trousers. A few went for the shorts. THEIR choice. Not everyone shares your taste.

Not much of that range would suit me, but I think they ask looked great on their own way. They each did their thing with style and confidence.

Just because you wouldn’t have worn it, it doesn’t mean it’s ridiculous. Ime waistcoats and baggy trousers are everywhere with young women. Not convinced that they wear M&S but I’m going to assume that you live somewhere rural or something.

The women are athletes and not models so unlikely to care much about the fashion side of things. Maybe the majority picked beige because black is often associated with sad or super formal occasions and this was not? Gen z have stopped forcing themselves to wear heels like previous generations of women. Again, these women are European champions so not concerned about what someone looking at photos think.

You need to complain to M&S if you think that their designs are ridiculous or find the mens and women’s teams a more fashionable sponsor more to your liking. The collection is all black and beige. Do you have this reaction with the mens team collection ?

@BasilParsley - totally agree with you. I thought the outfits were awful. I'm sure m&s could have come up with a better design for these young successful women!

They’d have to come out dressed in mini skirts for anyone to even bother…