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AIBU to tire of moral superiority around meals?

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Spinmerightroundbaby · 28/07/2025 21:09

I think if women/mothers have the time to spend cooking nutritious meals and enjoy doing it, that’s a beautiful thing. I have noticed though, there’s a tendency just lately for judgement towards parents who sometimes opt for frozen foods, takeaways or less healthy options.

AIBU to think that as long as there is a balance and your family isn’t on KFC every day, people should keep snooty attitudes to themselves as the odd frozen meal or microwave dinner isn’t a big deal? Especially if it means you have more quality time with your children rather than fussing about in the kitchen? Especially for working mothers too who are generally time poor and low energy.

It just feels like it’s the whole BF versus formula feeding disagreement but it’s become a bit more prevalent (in my locality at least) and I find it a bit tiresome. To me it feels like mostly now, this isn’t even about women wanting to do right by their children, it is about perception. They want to be perceived as ‘good’ mothers when children care more about quality time with their parents.

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CremeEggThief · 31/07/2025 21:23

Ooh I wish I had potato waffles now for my tea. I could easily eat them on their own.
A few of my family and friends actually prefer them in the toaster and think people like me who stick them.in the oven are OTT!

RosesAndHellebores · 31/07/2025 10:17

dottiedodah · 31/07/2025 08:28

Rosesandhellebores Your list is nutritious and delicious! Similar to ours in fact.However dont forget food is now very expensive, and often children are fussy ,Parents dont always have as much money when DC are small.

I absolutely hear what you are saying. However, a couple of years ago, after a health scare, I rethought what we were eating and significantly cut out: most cheese, butter, a lot of wheat products, sugar, processed meats, cut down on red meat. I refocused on fresh white meat, fish, eggs, beans, rice, salad, veg, fruit, etc.

No more packs of cold meat, crackers, snacks stuff, shop bought curries, lasagne, pizza, deserts, etc.

I was very surprised to see the food bills go down rather than up. Also, notwithstanding ND/eating disorders, I believe that if children are offered the sme foods as the adults from day one, no reliance on beige food arises. Mine are grown up now and my ethos was always, dh wouldn't want nuggets, waffle and beans so why would I ever give it to the children.

dottiedodah · 31/07/2025 08:28

Rosesandhellebores Your list is nutritious and delicious! Similar to ours in fact.However dont forget food is now very expensive, and often children are fussy ,Parents dont always have as much money when DC are small.

Tatty247 · 31/07/2025 08:16

I don't really understand how cooking chicken thighs or pork chops is harder than cooking chicken nuggets or fish fingers? You just stick them all in the oven. And wholemeal rice or pasta is cooked the same too, just maybe a bit longer than white. Chopping fresh veggies is a bit more hassle but really not that much.

It's not hard to have unprocessed dinners every day it's not like anyone has to be making a lasagna or moussaka from scratch every day. I feel sorry for kids raised on processed crap out the freezer.

Dummydimmer · 31/07/2025 08:10

I am very much a cooking from scratch person .When our son was little he was allowed a MacDonald's once a month. He admitted that he didn't really like the food, he liked the toys! When he went to his first week camp with the school, he refused all the food except salad and chips and fruit. At home we had treats always homemade like pancakes. Pasta with tomato based sauces featured heavily at teatime. I don't believe in punishing or forcing children to eat proper food, but always have alternatives . Food and mealtimes are to be enjoyed, not arenas for fighting.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 31/07/2025 07:52

My kids don’t like freezer food. I’m sure that’s partly because it’s not something we’ve ever really fed them, but they’d never choose something like nuggets/fish fingers etc.
My DH does most of the cooking as he works from home so has a bit more time (and enjoys cooking), but feeding them the best quality food we can afford is important to us.
I wouldn’t comment on what anyone else feeds their children. I’m not going to say I wouldn’t have some internal thoughts about it if someone I knew was feeding their kids absolute junk on a regular basis, but I wouldn’t comment.

PaxAeterna · 31/07/2025 00:42

I find it easy to cook a quick meal with fresh ingredients from scratch. . It’s just not something I find difficult or time-consuming . Even throwing some seasoning on top of a chicken breast and putting in the airfryer with a baked potatoe and serving up with peas - it’s as easy as throwing in chips and nuggets.

I know loads of people can’t cook or have other stuff going on. I would never comment on someone else’s dinners.

Lavatime · 30/07/2025 23:58

I do a lot of freezer meals- it's cheap and the kids will eat it. I can't cook for shit and with my ocd it takes so long to cook some days freezer foods or pasta is the only feasible option. I've never really had any judgement for it but I wouldn't care if I did and also I probably wouldn't be speaking to people who want to judge people over dinner in the first place they sound boring.

Enrichetta · 30/07/2025 23:52

Now that you’ve put it that way, guess I’m eating pizza as a side to my massive salad… 😆

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 23:50

Enrichetta · 30/07/2025 23:47

I love salads. And if I’m going to have pizza I want to be sure I eat a fair bit of healthy stuff alongside it.

See I don't .mind an occasional salad but if I was having a ," massive" one it would be a main meal for me not a side to a pizza 🍕

livelovelough24 · 30/07/2025 23:49

Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:39

Nope. Just have a life outside of Mumsnet and don’t check every day. Very strange to some of you, I know… 😂

No reason to be rude. When they post something, people usually interact with the posters. And judging by all the responses, most of us definitely have life outside of MN, how else would we have time to cook proper meals for our families.

Enrichetta · 30/07/2025 23:47

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 22:52

I don't understand the need for" massive" salads with everything lol.

Asda Pizza counter are better than the takeaways though.

I love salads. And if I’m going to have pizza I want to be sure I eat a fair bit of healthy stuff alongside it.

Enrichetta · 30/07/2025 23:46

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 22:55

Too bloody expensive. And just why ?

I agree. Apart from the cost, grated cheese tends to be lower quality, and there are fewer varieties that are available in grated firm. Just compare grated ‘Parmesan’ vs the real thing. Plus it gets mouldy after a while.

It takes literally seconds to grate a chunk of cheese.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/07/2025 23:29

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 23:06

By weight? Like 400g of grated cheese costs the same as a 400g block? Interesting as it never used to be.

I’ve got no idea, I don’t buy it by weight. Can’t say I’ve ever noticed.

I’d imagine not; but the convenience of not turning it into the form I need is worth extra cost. I don’t churn my own butter either!

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 23:06

SleeplessInWherever · 30/07/2025 23:02

It’s quite often actually cheaper than a block of cheese, and I don’t buy both types. I’ve just checked and in the supermarket we use, it’s around £1 cheaper.

We only eat grated cheese, so the “why” is because I can’t be bothered grating it, and don’t see why I would need to if I’m never using it in any form other than grated anyway.

Ease, basically!

By weight? Like 400g of grated cheese costs the same as a 400g block? Interesting as it never used to be.

SleeplessInWherever · 30/07/2025 23:02

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 22:55

Too bloody expensive. And just why ?

It’s quite often actually cheaper than a block of cheese, and I don’t buy both types. I’ve just checked and in the supermarket we use, it’s around £1 cheaper.

We only eat grated cheese, so the “why” is because I can’t be bothered grating it, and don’t see why I would need to if I’m never using it in any form other than grated anyway.

Ease, basically!

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 22:55

SleeplessInWherever · 29/07/2025 20:49

I buy it pre-grated, assumed we all did now 😂

Too bloody expensive. And just why ?

RubySquid · 30/07/2025 22:52

Enrichetta · 29/07/2025 00:05

But boy do we enjoy a takeaway!

I’m aware that many (most?) people like take-aways, but I find this really puzzling. What do you actually get and what is so enjoyable about?

Pizza? The ones I’ve had were drenched in tomato sauce and cheese and really not very nice. I prefer the fresh ones from Lidl, accompanied by a ‘massive’ salad.

Chinese? Yes, we have that occasionally….. because I find cooking several Chinese dishes too much of a faff - and I’m not very good at it.

Indian? Love Indian food and I’m quite good at making it, but otherwise we’d go to one of 3 local restaurants rather than getting take-out. Much more enjoyable.

What else is there that’s actually really tasty? Most of the time I simply prefer my own food. I cook a lot of Middle Eastern food and take inspiration from TV chefs and YouTubers and buy a cookbook every now and again. I make pan-fried or baked chicken or fish, meatballs, steaks, plus lots of roast vegetables and salads.

I don't understand the need for" massive" salads with everything lol.

Asda Pizza counter are better than the takeaways though.

Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:39

livelovelough24 · 29/07/2025 18:22

It is interesting that OP did not reply to any of the posts.

Nope. Just have a life outside of Mumsnet and don’t check every day. Very strange to some of you, I know… 😂

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Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:38

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 29/07/2025 22:15

Haha what kind of things do they say lol?

smashed avo’ on sour dough with a poached egg, micro herbs and some angel tears dressing?
Shashuka with home made flat breads’ and some type of whipped bean dip ?

Frittata with side of Swiss chard , morning glory and something with a molasses drizzle

that sort of quick tea?

never just beans on toast is it. Or brown toast n marmite/peanut butter; boiled egg and soldiers - all delicious simple pleasures and very nutritious for an adults/ kids quick tea.

Haha yes… never quick and they’re really just humble brags from the responders. I love people who are just passionate about cooking and their food (I have one friend who adores cooking and experimenting and it all comes from a place of love and fun, not moral superiority). There are some though who are like ‘woo look at me and my bourgeoisie recipes, I’m a step above…’ I just roll my eyes at the BS.

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Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 30/07/2025 22:36

Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:31

I don’t think anyone is denying that but some people are very precious about it and make comments like ‘oh I’d never cook food from a freezer.’ ‘Oh I don’t even really need a freezer as I don’t use frozen food.’ What I’m saying is there are people who are real purists and judge those who for various reasons decide not to cook from scratch from time to time. So yeah there is a real moral superiority as it’s not simply, ‘in doing a healthy choice because it’s better for my children’ but ‘I am better than other people because I don’t do all these unhealthy proletariat things…’ There's a moral superiority and also an elitist element to it which I find rather gross.

Note re some of the comments on ready microwave meals: do not like them and I don’t buy them but weirdly, my kids find them a real treat when they are with someone else who does them! I guess it’s the novelty value. 😂

Although I’m sympathetic, I lose patience a bit with the folks who spend hours cooking meals repeatedly for toddlers that they won’t eat… it just seems like martyrdom.

Kindly, I think you're projecting. Wish I could be bothered cooking for hours but I don't because I'm lazy. Obviously frozen food, like frozen vegetables are fine, but processed crap like fish fingers is crap so good on them of they don't feed their kids that (I do, but I admire people who make that effort).

Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:36

GiveMeAlllTheCoffee · 29/07/2025 22:43

It sounds like you're doing an amazing job.

You’re doing well. :)

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Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:35

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 29/07/2025 20:39

OP where are you?
Bit pointless staring an AIBU ( esp one that’s been done to death ) if you are not going to participate in it no?

Busy with a life outside of Mumsnet, dang it. 😁Nice to see I’m not alone in all this. Do I think it’s good to have high standards and try the best you can to serve your children healthy food? For sure. I just think some people need to relax about it.

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Spinmerightroundbaby · 30/07/2025 22:31

Pennyforyourthoughtsplease · 28/07/2025 21:28

I don't think we shouldn't normalise eating poorly. I'm not one of the cooking from scratch people, but I'd like to be. Processed food is really bad for you and should not be eaten regularly, that's just a fact, there's nothing morally superior about it.

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I don’t think anyone is denying that but some people are very precious about it and make comments like ‘oh I’d never cook food from a freezer.’ ‘Oh I don’t even really need a freezer as I don’t use frozen food.’ What I’m saying is there are people who are real purists and judge those who for various reasons decide not to cook from scratch from time to time. So yeah there is a real moral superiority as it’s not simply, ‘in doing a healthy choice because it’s better for my children’ but ‘I am better than other people because I don’t do all these unhealthy proletariat things…’ There's a moral superiority and also an elitist element to it which I find rather gross.

Note re some of the comments on ready microwave meals: do not like them and I don’t buy them but weirdly, my kids find them a real treat when they are with someone else who does them! I guess it’s the novelty value. 😂

Although I’m sympathetic, I lose patience a bit with the folks who spend hours cooking meals repeatedly for toddlers that they won’t eat… it just seems like martyrdom.

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GiveMeAlllTheCoffee · 29/07/2025 22:43

SpidersAreShitheads · 29/07/2025 13:28

I know I’m my own worst enemy with this as I get bored of foods very easily and am always on the hunt for new dinner ideas - other than my favourites like poached eggs that I would eat every night if I could. The rest of the family, less so 😂 (I’m autistic/ADHD so the pull between discovering new menus and wanting the same food is a nightmare 😂🫣).

I do menu plan but inevitably it goes wrong. The night I’d planned to do something that takes a lot of work is always the night when something happens and I don’t have time. And then I lack the capacity to figure out a quick and easy alternative that doesn’t rely on fishfingers etc 😂😂

In my defence, our home life can be quite challenging. DP is disabled with a neurological condition and is very limited, DM lives in the annexe and has cerebral palsy and dementia, DC are both autistic and home educated now. DC are 15 yrs old but have high needs - DS is still in nappies and neither will shower/wash without help, need all activities to be supported etc. I also work as a self-employed copywriter with publishing deadlines. There’s so much capacity for things to go wrong on a daily basis 🫣😂

I know I don’t live up to the high standards of MN but I’m quite proud that despite everything, my DC get meals cooked from scratch most of the time, including lunches. They eat tons of fruit and veg and weirdly, don’t snack. I can’t claim a moral victory there, no idea how that happened 😂🤷‍♀️

I’m not going to hang my head in shame about an occasional freezer food dinner despite what some on this thread might think.

It sounds like you're doing an amazing job.