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To think we can’t revive the country on the backs of the poor, the struggling, or the middle class?

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ForBreezySloth · 27/07/2025 20:44

Every time there’s an economic crisis, it seems like the burden always fall on the same groups - through tax hikes, cuts to services, and stagnant wages, while the wealthiest remain untouched. Surely a country can’t truly recover if the majority of its people are struggling just to get by? Yet time and time again, we’re told we all have to “tighten our belts” - except, conveniently, those at the top.

AIBU to think this approach isn’t sustainable or is it just the reality of how economies work?

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Mrsttcno1 · 27/07/2025 21:05

PowerfulFishRiver · 27/07/2025 21:01

But they're also being paid 35 per cent of all the income, which is far more than their fair share!

Who decides what is their “fair” share? You get paid the wage for the job you have, the experience, qualifications, expertise etc. Yes, the CEO of a global company is paid far more than the man who valets at our local car wash- that isn’t unfair though, that’s life, work, jobs.

If it was so easy to be earning those figures then everybody would be doing it.

It’s not a perfect system but the wealthiest are already paying the majority, and they aren’t a charity.

SchoolDilemma17 · 27/07/2025 21:03

ForBreezySloth · 27/07/2025 20:59

I’m not suggesting we ban rich people - just that wealthier individuals and corporations could shoulder more of the burden, especially during crises. Yes, they may pay higher absolute tax but they’re also less affected by cuts to services, stagnant wages, and rising costs. Meanwhile, those with the least are expected to “tighten their belts” while already stretched thin. The point is about fairness and sustainability, not abolishing wealth - though thanks for the leap.

so basically in this country you get punished for working hard and earning a good salary. I know plenty of well educated people with good salaries who are leaving now or have left because of changes to income tax from foreign investments, VAT on private schools, punitive tax if you earn over 100k. These people employ cleaners, PTs, tutors, tennis coaches, nannies, eat out a lot, use taxis more than tubes, give to charity, have private health insurance. You think we don’t need them in the country? They contribute more than half the benefits claimants.

I have lots of colleagues in the charity sector who have lost many of their major donors now. Nobody is better off because wealthy people leave.

PowerfulFishRiver · 27/07/2025 21:01

Mrsttcno1 · 27/07/2025 20:59

Look at the figures and give your head a shake.

Top 10% of earners paying 60% of all income tax- they quite literally are keeping things going. We’d ALL be paying far more if they all fucked off and we lost that £.

But they're also being paid 35 per cent of all the income, which is far more than their fair share!

Mrsttcno1 · 27/07/2025 20:59

BallerinaRadio · 27/07/2025 20:54

We couldn't possibly tax the rich people any more no we don't want them to run away do we however would we cope without the rich people who make us all better off

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Look at the figures and give your head a shake.

Top 10% of earners paying 60% of all income tax- they quite literally are keeping things going. We’d ALL be paying far more if they all fucked off and we lost that £.

RhaenysRocks · 27/07/2025 20:59

BallerinaRadio · 27/07/2025 20:54

We couldn't possibly tax the rich people any more no we don't want them to run away do we however would we cope without the rich people who make us all better off

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Well if you read the stats posted above, yes they do rather keep the rest of us afloat. There was a piece in the Times about this yesterday. A so called "wealth tax" has never worked wherever it has been tried. I don't know what the answer is, I'm not an economist, but defining "the rich" and "them" vs "us" is not the way to get a country to pull together.

ForBreezySloth · 27/07/2025 20:59

CopperWhite · 27/07/2025 20:52

Those are the top are paying plenty of tax. They are just less affected by the loss of public services because they use them the least.

Obviously, people that use public services the most will feel the biggest impact when those services are cut.

What do you want? Is the government supposed to ban rich people altogether?

I’m not suggesting we ban rich people - just that wealthier individuals and corporations could shoulder more of the burden, especially during crises. Yes, they may pay higher absolute tax but they’re also less affected by cuts to services, stagnant wages, and rising costs. Meanwhile, those with the least are expected to “tighten their belts” while already stretched thin. The point is about fairness and sustainability, not abolishing wealth - though thanks for the leap.

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Katypp · 27/07/2025 20:58

BallerinaRadio · 27/07/2025 20:54

We couldn't possibly tax the rich people any more no we don't want them to run away do we however would we cope without the rich people who make us all better off

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Well, how do you suggest we raise the 60% of tax paid by the highest earners?
It's ok being snippy and trying to be clever but what do you think should happen?

BallerinaRadio · 27/07/2025 20:54

We couldn't possibly tax the rich people any more no we don't want them to run away do we however would we cope without the rich people who make us all better off

🙄

CopperWhite · 27/07/2025 20:52

Those are the top are paying plenty of tax. They are just less affected by the loss of public services because they use them the least.

Obviously, people that use public services the most will feel the biggest impact when those services are cut.

What do you want? Is the government supposed to ban rich people altogether?

Mrsttcno1 · 27/07/2025 20:50

Well if you look at the figures, currently the top 10% of earners are paying 60% of all income tax, the top 1% of earners are already paying around 30% of all income tax.

Increasing that further will just drive those earners away, lots of them have already left to set up elsewhere and suddenly then we don’t see any of their tax.

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