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To not want to look after my daughter any more

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Goaheadflameme · 27/07/2025 17:58

My daughter is 8. She is recently diagnosed with autism. No problems at school but a nightmare at home.

Predictably, being out of the school routine has made her challenging behaviour more challenging. She regularly tells me she hates me, wishes I was dead, that things would be better without me. Everytime
I say something she mocks me. She won’t do anything she is told and consequences are meaningless as she just doesn’t care. Today she has also thrown food round the living room and when I tried to stop this she has violently attacked me multiple times. Previously she has broken my finger and scratched me to the extent that I was hospitalised due to a serious infection in my arm.

I just honestly can’t do it any more. This has been going on for more than two years now. It’s completely ruining me, my relationship with my husband and our family life (we have other children). The violence triggers me so badly due to childhood abuse and I don’t feel safe in my own home.

Do social services take children away in these circumstances?

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PoxyAndIKnowIt · 28/07/2025 11:31

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 10:49

Fuck me. This is a neurodivergent child not a violent abuser.
And yes, the responsibility of raising the children falls with the parents. If they have to do that across two households then that's what they have to do. It's hardly an outlandish idea.

OMG NO!! Splitting up a family because of a disturbed ND child is a terrible idea.

The only way we could deal with our autistic child whose worst times were 11-13, then later 18-19 (when she stopped her meds), was because we were together. DH and I were a strong and united front, protecting our younger child and using our different strategies and strengths to deal with, placate and care for our autistic DD.
How would it help younger DD to leave the family home and lose a loved and loving parent? Or alternatively have her sister and one of her parents leave home? Or, as per a PP, risk being plunged into poverty as one household has to become two?

The effect on the autistic child themselves would be significant and VERY negative.

And as for the marriage? Possible death warrant.

No one would gain from this.
Families should be supported not forced to break up.

Hibernatingtilspring · 28/07/2025 11:30

For the posters on here with their own agenda, do you really think it's helpful for the OP, who is clearly in crisis with their child and asking for help, to talk about autistic children in those terms?
Not all autistic children grow up to bite and stab people FFS! Stop demonising the kid. You can acknowledge the OPs difficulties without doing so. Many parents are frustrated with their own children but still feel very upset at other people criticizing their child.

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:29

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

They will probably be arrested obviously. It's not ok to 'retaliate with equal force' to a child.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:29

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

I imagine they would be prosecuted for assaulting a child
The fact is most parents don't do that because they love their child .

DoFunk · 28/07/2025 11:26

In these scenarios what happens legally and practically if both parents physically fights back and restrain the child?

What happens if the parent(s) loose it and retaliate with equal force?

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:24

The child's behaviour is likely to get worse if she's removed from her family and grows up in care, we can say that fairly confidently.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:18

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 11:13

8 year olds grow up.

After a few years they’re 12, then 15, then 17. They’re still a child, even at 17.

Teenagers can be the size of adults. They can also be stronger than their mothers.

Still think it’s acceptable for a 5’2” woman to be hit, bitten and stabbed by a 5’9” teenager?

You have no idea wether this child's behaviour will remain the same or get worse or better but she's 8 now not 12,15 or 17 .

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:16

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:12

The 8 year old will grow though. 6 years later to be a violent 6 ft 14 year old. Still a child.

Well you don't know that ,my severely autistic 15, year old is a lot less aggressive than when he was younger ,he still very challenging but he's more manageable now in some ways
But regardless of thst right now the child is 8 not 14.

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 11:13

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

8 year olds grow up.

After a few years they’re 12, then 15, then 17. They’re still a child, even at 17.

Teenagers can be the size of adults. They can also be stronger than their mothers.

Still think it’s acceptable for a 5’2” woman to be hit, bitten and stabbed by a 5’9” teenager?

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:13

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:12

Children have the right to be cared for until they reach adulthood and do not have responsibility for their own choices and actions the way an adult does. You can't compare an abusive adult with a disabled 8 year old!

Don't the siblings have the right to be safe and cared for also

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:12

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

The 8 year old will grow though. 6 years later to be a violent 6 ft 14 year old. Still a child.

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:12

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:05

Does seem strange. If your children were at risk of violence from a partner of yours everyone would be saying to boot him out. Yet it seems acceptable for kids to be at risk from a violent sibling and have to put up with it

Children have the right to be cared for until they reach adulthood and do not have responsibility for their own choices and actions the way an adult does. You can't compare an abusive adult with a disabled 8 year old!

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 11:10

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:02

And what when it's a single parent with a violent child and siblings. I should imagine dealing with all that increases the risk of parents relationship breaking down

That's a different situation. But social services would still expect the parent to look within their family network to care/provide respite if the other parent can't.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:08

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:05

Does seem strange. If your children were at risk of violence from a partner of yours everyone would be saying to boot him out. Yet it seems acceptable for kids to be at risk from a violent sibling and have to put up with it

There's a huge difference between a 8 year old child and an adult

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:05

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 10:44

Have studies been done on the effects to other children in the house of living with a violent sibling, both long-term and short-term, from childhood through to adulthood?

If so, what did they show?

If none have been done, how can social services be sure that keeping violent children in the home is in the best interests of the family as a whole?

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Does seem strange. If your children were at risk of violence from a partner of yours everyone would be saying to boot him out. Yet it seems acceptable for kids to be at risk from a violent sibling and have to put up with it

EviesHat · 28/07/2025 11:05

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 10:49

Fuck me. This is a neurodivergent child not a violent abuser.
And yes, the responsibility of raising the children falls with the parents. If they have to do that across two households then that's what they have to do. It's hardly an outlandish idea.

… family breakdown is one of the pathways to poverty. Lone-parent households are 2.5 times more likely to be in poverty than couple families? and in 2011,41 per cent of children from lone-parent families were in households living on less than 60 per cent of median income, against 23 per cent of children from two-parent families. (Pg14)

The greatest victims of family breakdown are children. The fact that there are 2.5 million separated families in Great Britain, with around 300,000 families separating each year, matters because of the extensive evidence showing that the stability of the family environment in which a child grows up contributes significantly to their future life outcomes. A child of separated parents is more likely to:

  • Grow up in poorer housing;
  • Experience behavioural problems;
  • Perform less well in school and gain fewer educational qualifications;
  • Need more medical treatment;
  • Leave school and home when young;
  • Become sexually active, pregnant or a parent at an early age; and
  • Report more depressive symptoms and higher levels of smoking, drinking and other drug use during adolescence and adulthood. (Pg53)

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/CSJFracturedFamiliesReportWEB13.06.13-1.pdf

You’re advocating the break up of families and all the negative consequences stemming from that, simply so the state can absolve itself of responsibility to keep the siblings of violent children safe.

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/CSJ_Fractured_Families_Report_WEB_13.06.13-1.pdf

StarCourt · 28/07/2025 11:04

Eeehbaheck · 27/07/2025 18:45

You need to refer yourself to social services and ask for a child in need assessment .
You should also be assessed as a carer.
You need help and support to be assessed, formulate a short term emergency plan, and then alongside that a longer term , reviewable strategy.
Emphasise your fears re your other dc and the violence- steps need to be taken in a pro active way to avoid family breakdown.
your dd needs to apply for attendance allowance ( non means tested)
respite ,if needed, should be part of the long term plan .
it may be that you are requesting an emergency respite placement for your dd- whilst social services remit is always to keep the family together, this temporary measure may be part of the emergency plan - depending on several factors- including availability, or support and respite from your own home .
( eg dd being taken places by a support worker , but still living in the home ,to give breathing space )
All the best to you .

Attendance Allowance is for pensioners

x2boys · 28/07/2025 11:03

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 11:00

I understand that, but you can be offered respite and it’s entirely unsuitable and you’re unable to access it.

I know it's crap i have friends in thst position.

RubySquid · 28/07/2025 11:02

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 10:16

There are two parents. In a situation where one sibling poses a risk to other siblings the solution should be the parents live separately and care for the children separately not that one child is removed and cared for out of the family.

And what when it's a single parent with a violent child and siblings. I should imagine dealing with all that increases the risk of parents relationship breaking down

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 11:00

I understand that, but you can be offered respite and it’s entirely unsuitable and you’re unable to access it.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 10:59

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 10:56

@x2boysand what if the child wont leave the house to access the offerings? Which means no one else can leave the house, either.

I was just stating the respite i get ,I appreciate it's not the same for every family.

DemBonesDemBones · 28/07/2025 10:56

@x2boysand what if the child wont leave the house to access the offerings? Which means no one else can leave the house, either.

Paganpentacle · 28/07/2025 10:55

ForrinMummy · 27/07/2025 18:05

This is horrendous. Even worse, in extremis they would take your other children away (or to live separately with their Dad) and leave you, alone and unsupported with her.

That would absolutely not happen.

x2boys · 28/07/2025 10:55

BabyCatFace · 28/07/2025 10:48

And where is the money coming from to fund putting a child in care?!
raising children is the responsibility of their parents. Full stop. Parents live separately all the time, if that's what they have to do that's what they have to do.

The fact is lots of families are expected to just muddle through aa best they can
Lots of families can't afford two separate households
I'm 15 years in now I think I'm quite lucky because I finally have a package of respite care
Which include,s two days a week every school holiday at a special needs club ,every other Saturday at the same club and two over nights a month in a a short break disabled children's residential home but it's taken years to get this level of respite and I only get it becsuse my son has very complex needs.

Ted27 · 28/07/2025 10:54

Everyone suggesting that the child is 'handed over' to social services- what do you think happens, do you think its some magic cure all?
Im a foster carer, my last placement was a child under section 20. All that happened was that the behavior was transfered to my home and to me. I was begging for help from the day he arrived. For reasons of confidentiality I can't describe much of what happened but in the end this poor child had a complete mental breakdown and was hospitalised for 3 weeks. Not before he completely trashed my home, several times.

Where ever this child is they need therapy, medication and treatments, and the parents ( or carers) need support.

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