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I can’t manage within the parameters that my DP sets

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CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

OP posts:
AllotmentHappy · 28/07/2025 08:17

Leave the relationship, kick him out. He brings nothing to your life but misery.

jeaux90 · 28/07/2025 08:11

You stay, he goes. Use your network of friends to get some support whilst you forge a life without him in it.

I have been a lone parent for 15 years and I can tell you it’s easier than having a useless, abusive man around.

The relationship is modelling bad behaviours for your kids, he is doing that, but you need to change it.

arethereanyleftatall · 28/07/2025 08:00

When people say ‘leave’ op, they mean ‘leave the relationship’, they don’t mean leave your home and business. He’s the one who goes.

Catpuss66 · 28/07/2025 07:58

You are being abused OP. You are just too tired to see it. You have 3 choices stay & put up with his behaviour & allow your children to see how he treats you & learn that behaviour. 2 give him an ultimatum to change his behaviour start to financially & emotionally support you. 3 Quietly start to get your ducks in a row to kick him out. Which I favour the last one. He has already ruined one relationship & left children behind. Him telling you to jump you are asking how high. Reach out to women’s aid who will support you. Tell someone IRL. You have a choice & a voice OP.

Floatingdownriver · 28/07/2025 07:55

YABU to stay and let your children think this is normal. Make a plan and LTB.

BugEyedBear · 28/07/2025 07:53

He sounds like a selfish a'hole demanding you follow a set of impossible parameters!

Where does he think you're going to live if you give up the business? If you became a stay at home Mum, where is the money going to come from for you to live on?

I think you need to work out a plan to leave him or evict him from your home and then put that plan into motion.

Darby3785 · 28/07/2025 07:50

I felt exhausted reading that list OP I can only imagine how you are feeling

He is setting standards for you that are far too high and for what? So it excuses him from having to do his share? To make you feel miserable. Having a partner is meant to be uplifting and supportive not to be making you feel like you are stepping out of line.

It is very easy for us to say leave him, but i think you need to consider what you are actually getting from this man apart from grief and basically having to jump to meet his demands whilst he does nothing but act like a teenager? Doing his own washing and nobody else's is madness why would you do that?

Something has got to give for you and the children. Don't worry about the idle threat of him wanting the kids off you! He says that to keep you where he wants you. He would have no real intentions of fighting you for them, he doesn't do anything for them hardly now. My ex used to throw threats about like that.

I think you need to figure out what you want OP. You are not going to change this man and you can see his behaviour isn't right. You wont get love, support and a family unit from this man!

MaryLennoxsScowl · 28/07/2025 07:27

What sort of business is it? Is it likely that you’d make more money from it if you could give it more time? Would it be enough to cover childcare for more days if your husband was out of the picture? Honestly I think telling him to leave would make very little difference to your life at this point.

Tired43 · 28/07/2025 06:56

What the hell have I just read
Can't you see how awful he is ,how nasty and controlling,if not abusive.
He's sapping your energy
Your children will think this is a normal marriage
This man is running you in to the ground,
Find some strength and divorce him

BurnTheWholeThingDown · 28/07/2025 06:43

I’m assuming you are running a pub, or something similar?

Keep the business, get reliable regular childcare and ditch the absolute waste of space abusive boyfriend.

Needsleepneedcoffee · 28/07/2025 06:32

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 23:58

We live and work in the same building. Rent, electric, water all get paid by the business. We pay council tax. I get Universal Credit top-up. But you’re right, the business can’t really afford to cover all our living costs.

Wait, one second.

So let me get this straight?

You are getting your business to pay your largest expenses, universal credit tops it up.

They take into account hos income I presume? Then they deduct a certain amount because his salary is household income?
But his income goes on CMS, clothes and doesn't make it into your household?

What I'm seeing is that he is not only shirking his responsibilities to your children, but actively taking out of their mouths.

Maybe run an entitledto check, see how much things change if he fucks off, oh and he can then pay CMS- calculator online too.

Strip the shit away and make your life easier. Best thing I did when my husband wouldn't contribute, help or support.

readingismycardio · 28/07/2025 05:52

Wtf did I just read? I’d be on the news for sure if that was my DH.

BadLad · 28/07/2025 05:43

Excellent use of “parameters”. Star Trek TNG fan?

This man is as bad as any partner I’ve read about on here. It’s as if he spends his daily hour in the bath carefully considering what he can do to make your life more shit.

I know it’s easy to say LTB and it can be daunting when you actually have to it, especially if money is tight and you have young children, but that is definitely the way to go.

Do you have parents or siblings around?

Needsleepneedcoffee · 28/07/2025 05:41

What are you getting out of being with this absolute parasite?

babyproblems · 28/07/2025 05:36

Get rid op. You’re doing it all anyway. He’s not your partner. He’s not a good dad. Best of luck. You sound like superwoman xxxxx

MeTooOverHere · 28/07/2025 05:09

legoplaybook · 27/07/2025 20:14

He's absolutely not going to 'have the kids', is he?

He's living like a single bloke already. He doesn't do childcare, get up in the morning or do school runs.
There's zero chance this man wants to be anything other than an every other weekend Disney dad. Can you imagine him stepping up as a single parent??

"an every other weekend Disney dad"
Nah he doesn't even want that.
He's just using it as a threat to keep her under his thumb.

Crazygirlmum · 28/07/2025 05:05

Who does he think he is to call all the shots. Unbelievable. I’m sorry but that not a loving equal partnership. He’s treating you very badly.
i don’t see any reason for you to want yo be in the relationship.
speaking from experience as I was I single mum of 4 for 12 years. Your life would be so much better away from this control freak.
you deserve so much more. Just think, when he had the kids you can actually have some time to yourself.
he doesn’t deserve to have a wife at all. What a control freak!! 😡

MeTooOverHere · 28/07/2025 05:00

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

Oh he's going to take the kids if you split up, is he? Tell him that's a feature, not a bug! You will enjoy having 50% of your time child-free, yes you are definitely going to separate now, thanks Hubby!
And what does all his earnings go on? CMS (he has other kids?), debt and CLOTHES???? What did his first slave wife die of?
And what is this insanity that he washes HIS clothes but not everyone else's clothes? He's not a father if he's doing that. Why can't he wash the kids clothes at least.
Call his bluff, he's manipulative AF.

Billybagpuss · 28/07/2025 04:54

How much legal control does he have over the business? Are you 50/50. If you leave him will he still have a controlling say in your business. If so best to get it gone. Either go fully employed or relaunch when you’re ready to on your own.

sparkleghost · 28/07/2025 02:17

I think you’re considering leaving the wrong thing. You need to leave the man, not the business. (Bit of a stretch calling him DP considering how poorly he treats you!)

GripGetter · 28/07/2025 01:19

Parameters? And he gets to set them? Why? Why are you even with this waste of space?

Spooky2000 · 28/07/2025 01:16

I barely got through your post without feeling pissed off and suffocated and unsupported myself. Leave the fuckwit, get a nanny, take the business as part of the settlement and enjoy the rest of your life without a 3rd child (your 'DP' 😐)

Honestly, life will eventually be so much happier and easier without him and his demands and with the courts ordained times for him to have your lovely boys.

SnowFrogJelly · 28/07/2025 01:02

LTB

99bottlesofkombucha · 28/07/2025 00:45

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 28/07/2025 00:03

I want a family unit. I want some love and support.

My concern with leaving the business is that things won’t be any different away from it, and I’ll have given everything up.

By everything I mean, I set my own hours, I never miss any school event. I have a community around me, which helps with school pick ups when needed, and lots of bits and pieces which I really appreciate. And probably more too.

to be blunt, If wishes were horses beggars would ride. You want love and support. You won’t ever get them from this lazy pathetic controlling and possibly abusive excuse for a partner and dad and no amount of wanting will change that. You might however get them from someone else if you were free of him. Split, tell him you’re helping him as now he can take his kids out like other dads do but he could only do if he were a single dad, so now he’s single! And can parent! or just disappear from their lives like a deadbeat dad.

the business sounds useful re flex etc, but let’s be clear headed about it. Without him, plus any benefits and child support, can you keep things going? Can it ever make more? What is holding you back from it? If you can survive with the business and without him, I’d dump him and see how much more energy and enthusiasm you have without the dead weight telling you you aren’t good enough every day, and look at the business’ future again then. But if you just can’t get by, then need to think more immediately about other options. And maybe the strategic thing is to get a job and then leave him.

PeachesandCream100 · 28/07/2025 00:30

So, best case scenario is he gets an attitude adjustment, grows up and takes his fair share of responsibility, yes?

I'd start there. Do you see any reasonable chance of that happening? For ex. was he ever fair and caring? Or would you say he's just cracked from the start and there's not much to work with there?

If there's hope, then I suggest trying marriage counseling before giving up. Sometimes they can work miracles.

If not, then maybe start by seeing a therapist or divorce attorney or both, by yourself, and be careful what you share with him.

If you're going to leave, better to get it all set up well before acting.

Best wishes.

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