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Friend won’t apologise

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NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 08:08

This has been a while, but would appreciate some input.

I had a situation with a friend a few years ago.
She misunderstood something I said, and got upset. I can say 100% I didn’t say this or have this intention at all. She told others I did and she stopped talking to me. Even though I hadn’t, I immediately apologised for anything I did that led to the confusion, I also did some months later by letter. It was very painful, but during the silence, I eventually tried to accept I wouldn’t hear from her again.

Last year she asked my family to come to an unnecessary group event. It was unexpected and I said unfortunately I didn’t feel comfortable as she has never apologised. I offered to have a call and said I would always be ok with that now or anytime in the future. I want to forgive her and am very forgiving by nature. She said she would not apologise, what happened, happened, and declined the call.

Two weeks ago I had to see her again at a group event we both had to go to. Everything is awkward and strange. For me this was all unnecessary. She has talked before about how sad the ‘loss of the friendship’ is. For me it is depressing as the situation was unnecessary, the silence unnecessary, and the awkwardness unnecessary now.

I simply feel I need an apology. I can’t move past it without. I don’t want to spend time with someone I feel resentful of. It has felt very manipulative to me, that she wanted to see my family even though she won’t apologise. Other friends also wanted us there and tried to push for us to go. At this point, without an apology, I would prefer not to see or hear from her again because it is too painful. I don’t understand why she won’t apologise or even why she wants to see me..

My question is AIBU? What would others do?

You are NOT being unreasonable - a request for an apology is reasonable

You are being unreasonable - you should agree to meet her, try to be friends again and carry on as if nothing happened even though she won’t apologise

OP posts:
Daygloboo · 27/07/2025 11:24

TwistedWonder · 27/07/2025 11:03

It’s very hard without knowing what exactly was said but I think you’re being very rigid in your ‘I must have an apology and nothing else is acceptable to me’ - it does come across as you’re right and it’s your way or no way.

Sometimes as adults we have agree to disagree and move on. I really can’t see that a begrudging forced apology years later benefits anyone here.

You need to make an adult decision to put this behind you and move on as friends or realise you’re done.

But an apology is actually an acknowledgement of the truth of a situation if that person was in the wrong. It's not just some kind of performative moment..So there is a sort of gaslighting going on here. The OP has a right to feel aggrieved I think. If she really didn't say something and has explained that then the other person is being unreasonable.. and it isn't a true friendship.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 11:23

ZoomingSusan · 27/07/2025 09:51

It is impossible to understand the situation only knowing that OP thinks her comment was inoffensive. It’s surely possible to give us some idea without being outing.

I don’t think OP has said she thinks what she said was inoffensive - only that it wasn’t meant in the way her friend took it. I don’t think it matters what was said, the point is that OP tried to clear up the misunderstanding straight away by explaining what she meant, and apologising if she’d inadvertently caused offence. She can do no more than that and if her friend chose not to accept it then that’s on her, not OP.

Sometimeswinning · 27/07/2025 11:21

PersephonePomegranate · 27/07/2025 11:14

OP been treated terribly over a misunderstanding, which she apologised for and tried to quickly clear up, of course she deserves an apology.

People are absolutely fucked up!

What has she apologised for? What did she clear up? Op won’t even hint slightly at what she said. To me that speaks volumes.

The whole situation is outing anyway. The op is not completely convinced her comment is as innocent as she insists.

Elmaas · 27/07/2025 11:20

NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 10:57

@Elmaas thank you.

Yes, I have wondered if I am ND. I have searched online, asked people, but haven’t been able to find anything to confirm. Friends I’ve asked have said no.

I do find relationships (platonic) confusing sometimes - does everyone? This is the only one I’ve had this issue with though.

My upbringing wasn’t easy, I’ve done a lot of therapy. But I live in a way, I believe highly in treating people well. And I find it difficult for someone to suggest otherwise. I also believe in communication. Silent treatment is the absolute worst for me.

Do you know how to find out about ND? I’m not sure if it would help to know. But maybe.

The reason I ask is that I can be black and white with right and wrong and can see myself in your posts.
But you can let it go and decide that while you like to be forgiving, you need to protect yourself too.

Her eye rolling was nasty and confirms she has an issue with you.
She was not ever your friend to do that.

The more you reflect I think you will find peace in the realisation that there is no friendship to save.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 11:18

PersephonePomegranate · 27/07/2025 11:11

Bloody hell, you can tell the egotists that don't apologise on this thread! Who knew there were so many of them? Shocking!

Depends on what you’re apologising for though surely. If we take OP at face value she hasn’t done anything wrong. She explained the misunderstanding straight away and said she was sorry if her friend had misunderstood. Her friend insisted on continuing to misunderstand, lied to mutual friends and cut OP off. And worse than that, now she’s seemingly offered OP an olive branch which is actually a poisoned chalice. If OP accepts, it will look as though she was in the wrong and friend has magnanimously forgiven her. If she refuses, she will look petty and friend will tell everyone ‘well at least I tried’. Either way friend doesn’t have to climb down from her high horse and apologise for what, if true, is an appalling way to treat a friend. Manipulative and unpleasant. Not a friend I’d want - not least because she found it so easy to think the worst of OP even after she’d explained and apologised.

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 27/07/2025 11:17

Absolutely understandable to want an apology. And very disconcerting that she won't apologise but wants to re-establish contact. I think letting her back into your like would result in more upset and drama.

gamerchick · 27/07/2025 11:15

So much navel gazing dude.

It's been too long. There is no way of going back to a friendship, even if she did apologise. It's been shared with too many people who all have their own opinions. It's too late.

Let it go. Be polite if you have to cross paths but she's an acquaintance now

PersephonePomegranate · 27/07/2025 11:14

TwistedWonder · 27/07/2025 11:03

It’s very hard without knowing what exactly was said but I think you’re being very rigid in your ‘I must have an apology and nothing else is acceptable to me’ - it does come across as you’re right and it’s your way or no way.

Sometimes as adults we have agree to disagree and move on. I really can’t see that a begrudging forced apology years later benefits anyone here.

You need to make an adult decision to put this behind you and move on as friends or realise you’re done.

OP been treated terribly over a misunderstanding, which she apologised for and tried to quickly clear up, of course she deserves an apology.

People are absolutely fucked up!

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 11:11

SugarMarshmallow · 27/07/2025 10:36

I think there is more to this, I can’t help but think you did say something upsetting but it just wasn’t as bad as she thought you said.

You seem really adamant to apologise yourself, and even apologised straight after the “misunderstanding”

Most people would say straight up that they didn’t say anything wrong, but you seemed to have tripped up a bit and apologised for something you didn’t do?

I read it more as OP apologising for the fact that what she said wasn’t meant in the way her friend took it, not that she was apologising for what she actually said. A ‘sorry you feel that way’ kind of apology which is entirely appropriate if OP didn’t mean what her friend thought.

PersephonePomegranate · 27/07/2025 11:11

Bloody hell, you can tell the egotists that don't apologise on this thread! Who knew there were so many of them? Shocking!

Daygloboo · 27/07/2025 11:07

NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 08:08

This has been a while, but would appreciate some input.

I had a situation with a friend a few years ago.
She misunderstood something I said, and got upset. I can say 100% I didn’t say this or have this intention at all. She told others I did and she stopped talking to me. Even though I hadn’t, I immediately apologised for anything I did that led to the confusion, I also did some months later by letter. It was very painful, but during the silence, I eventually tried to accept I wouldn’t hear from her again.

Last year she asked my family to come to an unnecessary group event. It was unexpected and I said unfortunately I didn’t feel comfortable as she has never apologised. I offered to have a call and said I would always be ok with that now or anytime in the future. I want to forgive her and am very forgiving by nature. She said she would not apologise, what happened, happened, and declined the call.

Two weeks ago I had to see her again at a group event we both had to go to. Everything is awkward and strange. For me this was all unnecessary. She has talked before about how sad the ‘loss of the friendship’ is. For me it is depressing as the situation was unnecessary, the silence unnecessary, and the awkwardness unnecessary now.

I simply feel I need an apology. I can’t move past it without. I don’t want to spend time with someone I feel resentful of. It has felt very manipulative to me, that she wanted to see my family even though she won’t apologise. Other friends also wanted us there and tried to push for us to go. At this point, without an apology, I would prefer not to see or hear from her again because it is too painful. I don’t understand why she won’t apologise or even why she wants to see me..

My question is AIBU? What would others do?

You are NOT being unreasonable - a request for an apology is reasonable

You are being unreasonable - you should agree to meet her, try to be friends again and carry on as if nothing happened even though she won’t apologise

If someone is that subborn, even though you've made it clear she was wrong in her interpretation of what you said, then I'd give up on her. She's disrespecting you, isnt she.Wiyh some people, stubbornness is almost pathological. They just can't being themselves to apologise.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 11:07

StrangledHowl · 27/07/2025 10:24

But this is her olive branch!

How ? She’s refused to call and apologise to OP. And if OP accepts this ‘olive branch’ it will look as though her friend is being magnanimous and forgiving when it’s nothing of the sort. It’s designed to make it look as though OP is in the wrong so that friend can smooth things over without apologising for her past behaviour towards OP. She’s no friend, she’s manipulative and a drama queen.

CatCollector · 27/07/2025 11:06

NoTouch · 27/07/2025 10:22

She sent an olive brand by inviting you, you gave her a clear response by taking it and snapping it in half.

Without knowing the details of the problem all I can say is you both see the incident differently and I can only assume you have both felt wronged and hurt in some way. She is willing to move on, you are holding onto it and causing a stalemate.

Either way, because you will meet occasionally through joint friends you need to move past it, that is something you can choose to do. You don't need to be close friends again if you don't want to, but for the sake of your other friends accept it is what it is, choose to end the awkwardness, and be civil when you do meet.

She hasn't offered an olive branch
That would be either acknowledging there was a mistake and she was wrong or acknowledging her behaviour was wrong
She's done neither

This woman is toxic and no friend to the Op
She's " hoovering"
Which means she is trying to get the Op back so that she can start up her tactics again

TwistedWonder · 27/07/2025 11:03

It’s very hard without knowing what exactly was said but I think you’re being very rigid in your ‘I must have an apology and nothing else is acceptable to me’ - it does come across as you’re right and it’s your way or no way.

Sometimes as adults we have agree to disagree and move on. I really can’t see that a begrudging forced apology years later benefits anyone here.

You need to make an adult decision to put this behind you and move on as friends or realise you’re done.

NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 11:03

3luckystars · 27/07/2025 10:57

I thinks she wanted to fall out with you but picked the wrong thing to do it with.

She latched on to something you said (maybe claiming you were racist or something equally awful or shocking to you) and you felt you needed to clear it up so nobody thought that of you.

But it was all a scam, and not even about what you said, she just picked that one hill to die on because she wanted to fall out with you.

Clearing up the ‘misunderstanding’ was never going to fix it. She is not going to apologise because she probably has a list of grievances against you.

She doesn’t like you or is jealous of you or there is something else going on that she doesn’t have the words to express. You are better off without someone like that in your life.

Wish her well. And move on x

Yes, I also think this is probably true. When I think back I remember a few small signs something was wrong. I was organising an event sometime before (unrelated) and I told the group an old friend was coming, I was excited. I remember I slightly saw her roll her eyes. I thought it was strange and didn’t know why. But I think you are probably right. It’s hard to not know why, but we can’t always know why, right.

(It wasn’t something racist though)

OP posts:
Dodeedoo · 27/07/2025 11:00

So you said something and she misinterpreted it. You tried to explain what you meant but she refused to listen. Am I right? If so, then fuck her right off and don’t give it a second thought anymore. Friends don’t accuse their mates of being liars unless there are significant trust issues. The fact that you tried to explain yourself and she refused to listen says it all. This person was never your friend.

NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 10:57

@Elmaas thank you.

Yes, I have wondered if I am ND. I have searched online, asked people, but haven’t been able to find anything to confirm. Friends I’ve asked have said no.

I do find relationships (platonic) confusing sometimes - does everyone? This is the only one I’ve had this issue with though.

My upbringing wasn’t easy, I’ve done a lot of therapy. But I live in a way, I believe highly in treating people well. And I find it difficult for someone to suggest otherwise. I also believe in communication. Silent treatment is the absolute worst for me.

Do you know how to find out about ND? I’m not sure if it would help to know. But maybe.

OP posts:
3luckystars · 27/07/2025 10:57

I thinks she wanted to fall out with you but picked the wrong thing to do it with.

She latched on to something you said (maybe claiming you were racist or something equally awful or shocking to you) and you felt you needed to clear it up so nobody thought that of you.

But it was all a scam, and not even about what you said, she just picked that one hill to die on because she wanted to fall out with you.

Clearing up the ‘misunderstanding’ was never going to fix it. She is not going to apologise because she probably has a list of grievances against you.

She doesn’t like you or is jealous of you or there is something else going on that she doesn’t have the words to express. You are better off without someone like that in your life.

Wish her well. And move on x

olympicsrock · 27/07/2025 10:53

She doesn’t feel that she owes you any apology. This won’t happen . Time to move on.
The best solution is that the two of you meet and agree to disagree. There is no point hashing over it because you don’t agree and will never agree. At least the awkwardness will be over. Perhaps take some old photos and remind yourselves of the good times you had together?

It sounds like you have a mindset where the only ‘closure ‘ is a situation where you are vindicated and found publicly to be in the right. This is not going to happen so you need to reframe what a good outcome could look like .

Easipeelerie · 27/07/2025 10:49

She’s no longer your friend. Be polite and breezy at events where you are together and move on with people who you get on well with.

dairydebris · 27/07/2025 10:47

PestoHoliday · 27/07/2025 08:55

You say you forgive instantly but that's clearly not true. You've dug your heels in, telling yourself you 'need' an apology. You've created this stumbling block. If you truly could forgive you wouldn't be insisting on an apology that wouldn't be genuine even if you persuaded her to say it.

She's extended an olive branch. Accept it or don't, whichever feels best to you.

When my son was 9 he had a bad falling out with his best friend. They were both very upset. One day they were chatty away together and I asked what happened.
"We decided to fast forward to when we are friends again."

You can fast forward. Or you can stay on Pause.

This is lovely. We decided to fast forward til when we are friends again. ❤️

ThinWomansBrain · 27/07/2025 10:46

given the lack of clarity in your posts, no wonder there was confusion or misunderstanding about what was said or intended,

godmum56 · 27/07/2025 10:46

NurtureGrow · 27/07/2025 08:48

@CarlaLemarchant I feel I need an apology because I was accused and she stopped talking to me for over a year.

Would you be ok for someone to accuse you of something, stop talking to you, and then want to start meeting up again without apologising? And even when you say you don’t feel comfortable without an apology and suggest talking, they decline to call?

That’s what I genuinely want to know. Please tell me!

Am I that sort of person? Not always and not often but yes I have done it because it gave me the outcome I wanted

mightbetheone · 27/07/2025 10:45

She’s not going to apologise so stop dwelling on it. Some people are incapable of admitting they were wrong. I think yabu to still be stewing on it and insisting on an apology all this time later. Accept the friendship is over and that it’s going to be a bit awkward and move on.

Quitelikeit · 27/07/2025 10:45

Well maybe she doesn’t want to apologise because what you said upset and hurt her regardless of your intent

On that basis why should she say sorry? Sorry for what?

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