To think The West is morally bankrupt

No, you haven’t got it right. Again.

There are several places I would happily move to. My main aim is leaving the UK.

I've only skimmed but have I got it right that @SummerEveplans on moving to the UAE as presumably somewhere that isn't moral bankrupt?
I must have that wrong?

Where do you want to move to, the UAE?

The West isn't the only place with shit people making awful decisions. The East is equally morally bereft. There's good and bad in both and both with people with good and bad morals.

Isn’t it funny how the ‘west’ is held up as the mother of all evil and yet it’s the relatively safe democratic systems and economic stability that the flotsam and jetsome of the world’s fucked up places seek refuge in.

No, our systems aren’t perfect, and our leaders are flawed, but our fundamental values for the common good and our allegiance to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights means it weighs higher on the ‘morally bankrupt’ scale than other systems around the globe.

I wonder what values the op regards as superior? Funny how they started this thread, and come on here spitting fury and yet haven’t nailed their colours to the mast.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

UK is a lot better than many other countries for carbon emissions . I’m aware its per capita

Like? Its not the only place in the East though either way, seems Westeners just need to put more work in if they really want to move out of the evil West.

You are embarrassing yourself.

North Macedonia is very nice to money launderers.

If you're going to assign moral values to countries (and I'm not sure how useful that is) all countries are compromised, all leaders are compromised. A country that is only and has only been ever kind and charitable will not thrive. No one wants to live like the child who has his lunch money stolen every day.

Agree totally.

First, define what you mean by "morally bankrupt".
Second what is the "West" doing that in previous ages has not been done by other dominant groups of nations/empires?
YABU and you need to read more history IMO.

No “maybe” about it. There are several other non-negotiable stipulations. If you can’t meet certain criteria, no amount of hard work will change that.

Yes there are those who are happy to take up a new position. Given the weapons amassed by one in particular we’ll have to hope they are relatively benign and won’t use similar systems to control what is said.

The anti west sentiment whilst enjoying those freedoms is the ultimate luxury, that may not last. People shouldn’t undervalue it.

No you don't.
Just rock up in a small boat and claim asylum. Tell them you're escaping the evil West and I'm sure they sympathise.

Well I've never looked to move there, so maybe that's so, but many countries in the east are far easier than others, and UAE is ranked as an easier place to move to, especially for Brits. I see plenty of people moving from East to West, maybe westerners are just too lazy to put the work in to get a visa and move?

😂

Are we lucky OP that we can live in a place where we are completely free to loudly and publicly slag off are own government and country.

Yes I agree @EasternStandard . We have reached the stage of late capitalism or whatever you want to call it that people are so entitled and spolit they think things will always be the same. Also so naive that they think the rest of the world thinks like them and just let our enemies walk all over us. Meanwhile Islam or China are ready to take over.

You are completely incorrect. You don’t “just need a job” to move to the UAE.

Apologies, I haven’t done a full scale analysis of the immigration policy for every single country. I appreciate that’s clearly unreasonable on my part!

Yep and those in line with op are part of the issue. Undervaluing what we have until it’ll be gone anyway.

It’s a luxury to post as op does, we might not always have it.

Where to?

No, because other countries have restrictions on the boarders too, just like the evil West, weird huh? But to move to the UAE for example, you just need a job, so get applying!

Yes, that is very much my contention. We have evolved to be better at different things. Men also make better front line soldiers. Women are better at nurturing, men are more inventive (and before the hard of thinking say anything I know there are exceptions, I'm talking generalisations). It is well known that the normal distribution for intelligence is such that there are more male geniuses, but also more men with very low intelligence. Get over it.