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Gave cpr. Not heard anything from the victim. Is it ok to feel a little sad?

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Rizzlekicks123 · 26/07/2025 22:38

Never posted before but was hoping for either some moral support.

I gave cpr recently to a neighbour (who I don't know but who mutual friends do). I am not a medic and havent had formal training. Just online reading. The woman lived and is going to be ok (thank goodness). The thing that is upsetting me is that she hasn't reached out despite knowing how to find me. She owes me nothing and I'd do the same again if I was faced with it, but I feel so sad that the trauma I experienced has not been acknowledged. I dont want anything other than a "are you ok" It was so stressful. Aibu?

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Plibble · 31/07/2025 07:26

I haven’t read the whole thread but I knew on reading the OP how some would interpret it.

The fact is that what you have been through is traumatic, OP. You saw someone nearly die and had to intervene in a real, physical way. Loads of people like to think they would help but the truth is not everyone is a rescuer. You are, and you might need a bit of help processing what happened.

As far as your neighbour is concerned what took place only happened to her. And on one level she is not wrong, but it did happen to you too.

NiftyPrawn · 30/07/2025 21:12

Rizzlekicks123 · 30/07/2025 13:24

Hello @niftyprawn Thanks for checking in. Reading some of the comments had made me reflect on why I was wanting that connection with the victim. It is 100% not about being a 'look at me i saved you' but about closure. That transactional thing to help me 'move on' from a trauma the victim and I shared together(of course, worse for her). A previous poster reference this need for closure and it really resonated. I've thought a LOT about the event, how I reacted,the sounds/smells etc who else was there and the motions I went through. The worst part was definitely giving mouth to mouth but I won't dwell on that here. I will continue counselling and will check out rewind. You guys do a fantastic job. I am in awe of paramedics who do this day in day out.

I definitely got that you needed closure from your post. I didn’t get the “me me me” thing that others have interpreted it as. Maybe they’ve thankfully not been there and therefore don’t understand. Unfortunately people get thrown to the wolves on here. Fair play on the mouth to mouth too - we don’t do that bit! I can see how it would be grim though.

Rewind is defo worth it. Therapy techniques are horses for courses a lot of the time, but it has helped me and many others deal with horrible incidents. Best of luck and never stop feeling proud for your actions that day. Seeing people who jump in to help and just getting on with it before we get there really warms my soul! ❤️

NewspaperTaxis · 30/07/2025 18:25

This thread is quite funny.

I always wondered if I would do the right thing if I needed to save a life but now I know if I did I wouldn't mention it on Mumsnet because I'd be subject to abuse.

Like saying to some star, well, why should people say how great your record/ book/movie is, I mean you got paid didn't you, you utter bastard.

IwouldlikeanewTV · 30/07/2025 17:53

I think you were amazing OP. Some of the comments on here are entitled and nasty. Just no need for it when a stranger has been incredibly kind to another person and is now dealing with the trauma.
the paramedic who posted - you are very kind.

I fell over once whilst exercising. I was concussed. I am so very grateful to the strangers who stopped what they were doing and helped me. I did manage to thank one person a few months later.

Let’s be kind. A stranger saved a life. What an incredible amazing thing. I’m not sure what I would do in that situation but lots of people would not step up. Sad.

dynamiccactus · 30/07/2025 17:38

rwalker · 26/07/2025 22:55

Granted it’s harsh but ultimately it’s correct

But why be so harsh to someone who saved another person's life?

All anyone needs to say is that she is probably still recovering from the experience (physically and mentally) and if the OP needs support she needs to find it from other people - eg the organisation you did your first aid course with may be able to help. Or find a mental health first aider.

Kirbert2 · 30/07/2025 17:32

exasperatedflatmate · 30/07/2025 15:53

@Breathein I watched my son being worked on by an ambulance crew. Not for a heart issue but a prolonged seizure. It is very scary. And although OP wasn’t seeing a loved one in danger, she was taking responsibility. So like you I can completely empathise. I think some folk are lucky and perhaps haven’t seen stuff

I've seen a lot of stuff, including my son have a cardiac arrest which went on for an agonising 20 minutes followed by 7 weeks in intensive care and a cancer diagnosis just 1 week after his cardiac arrest. He was in hospital for 10 months in total and is now disabled.

I understand that OP is traumatised and I understand that she wants closure but none of that can be put onto the patient who is still going through her own trauma and potentially still having issues with her health.

Paganpentacle · 30/07/2025 15:55

XenoBitch · 26/07/2025 22:44

YABU, you are owed nothing by the person you did CPR on.

She nearly died.

Are other people checking in on you? Because the last person to be checking in on you should be the person you helped.

This 100%
No offense.... this is not about you.

exasperatedflatmate · 30/07/2025 15:53

@Breathein I watched my son being worked on by an ambulance crew. Not for a heart issue but a prolonged seizure. It is very scary. And although OP wasn’t seeing a loved one in danger, she was taking responsibility. So like you I can completely empathise. I think some folk are lucky and perhaps haven’t seen stuff

Breathein · 30/07/2025 13:42

I have watched my husband in cardiac arrest and also watched cpr. It is truly shocking and I ended up with ptsd. Anyone on this thread who doesn’t have sympathy for you as well the lady you saved have no idea what they are talking about. Join Chain of Survival on FB. Also if resuscitation took a while know that your neighbour may have memory loss and a brain injury which is very common after resuscitation because of hypoxia. Take it easy, see your GP and I recommend cbt for any anxiety. There will be a reason why the lady hasn’t thanked you and it won’t be lack of gratitude. Well done for saving a life!

Rizzlekicks123 · 30/07/2025 13:24

NiftyPrawn · 29/07/2025 23:35

How are you doing @Rizzlekicks123? I was the paramedic who commented previously. It may help you to run through this with someone you know, maybe a friend who may be in the healthcare field?

Start at the beginning, when everything was fine. Go to the first point when you were alerted to what was going on. Talk about what you did first, how you felt when you started taking action. Talk about how you felt with those first chest compressions (the worst part usually - anyone who’s had to do this will know why). Talk about how you kept your pace with your compressions etc. I’m sure it felt like forever until the ambulance arrived vs the time it actually took. Things can feel like slow motion or incredibly fast paced due to the adrenaline running through you. When the ambulance arrived, they’d have started advance life support (ALS) and this can appear to be a lot of things going on at once. There is a lot going on, but realistically this is the most regimented call we will go on. Everyone has a task to perform, furniture gets chucked out the way and lots of kit gets brought out and used at the same time.

It can be difficult with “ROSC” jobs (ie the pulse comes back and the heart starts to beat normally) for the crew to come and talk to any bystanders. There is a lot to do for the patient after to stabilise them for transport. Whereas with arrests where the patient sadly dies, there is usually time for the paramedics to sit and run through various things with family/bystanders if they wish to find out more info. I feel it was less likely you were given much feedback/discussion time due to the crews stabilising the patient. So realistically there were probably a lot of unknowns you were left with hanging in the air. If there’s anything you’d like to ask, let me know and I’ll do my best to explain things and hopefully bring you some closure.

Lastly I just wanted to say it’s completely normal to still be thinking about this for some time. Other posters have given some really helpful resources to assist you with the aftermath and I’d encourage you to take a look. However if unwanted thoughts about this traumatic event go on for an extended period or are really bothering you, I highly recommend seeking out the Rewind technique through a therapist. It helps confront the issue (as opposed to offering coping mechanisms) and has helped me out a good few times after nasty jobs x

Hello @niftyprawn Thanks for checking in. Reading some of the comments had made me reflect on why I was wanting that connection with the victim. It is 100% not about being a 'look at me i saved you' but about closure. That transactional thing to help me 'move on' from a trauma the victim and I shared together(of course, worse for her). A previous poster reference this need for closure and it really resonated. I've thought a LOT about the event, how I reacted,the sounds/smells etc who else was there and the motions I went through. The worst part was definitely giving mouth to mouth but I won't dwell on that here. I will continue counselling and will check out rewind. You guys do a fantastic job. I am in awe of paramedics who do this day in day out.

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NiftyPrawn · 29/07/2025 23:35

How are you doing @Rizzlekicks123? I was the paramedic who commented previously. It may help you to run through this with someone you know, maybe a friend who may be in the healthcare field?

Start at the beginning, when everything was fine. Go to the first point when you were alerted to what was going on. Talk about what you did first, how you felt when you started taking action. Talk about how you felt with those first chest compressions (the worst part usually - anyone who’s had to do this will know why). Talk about how you kept your pace with your compressions etc. I’m sure it felt like forever until the ambulance arrived vs the time it actually took. Things can feel like slow motion or incredibly fast paced due to the adrenaline running through you. When the ambulance arrived, they’d have started advance life support (ALS) and this can appear to be a lot of things going on at once. There is a lot going on, but realistically this is the most regimented call we will go on. Everyone has a task to perform, furniture gets chucked out the way and lots of kit gets brought out and used at the same time.

It can be difficult with “ROSC” jobs (ie the pulse comes back and the heart starts to beat normally) for the crew to come and talk to any bystanders. There is a lot to do for the patient after to stabilise them for transport. Whereas with arrests where the patient sadly dies, there is usually time for the paramedics to sit and run through various things with family/bystanders if they wish to find out more info. I feel it was less likely you were given much feedback/discussion time due to the crews stabilising the patient. So realistically there were probably a lot of unknowns you were left with hanging in the air. If there’s anything you’d like to ask, let me know and I’ll do my best to explain things and hopefully bring you some closure.

Lastly I just wanted to say it’s completely normal to still be thinking about this for some time. Other posters have given some really helpful resources to assist you with the aftermath and I’d encourage you to take a look. However if unwanted thoughts about this traumatic event go on for an extended period or are really bothering you, I highly recommend seeking out the Rewind technique through a therapist. It helps confront the issue (as opposed to offering coping mechanisms) and has helped me out a good few times after nasty jobs x

W11df10w3r · 28/07/2025 07:23

Kirbert2 · 27/07/2025 22:47

People cope differently and also recover differently or not completely depending on the reason for the cardiac arrest or the cardiac arrest itself having lasting affects.

My son was diagnosed with cancer just a week after his cardiac arrest. I didn't have 2 minutes, life was chaotic for a very long time.

If some people would back off because they might not get a thank you when someone is dealing with their own trauma and potential medical issues then they aren't doing it for the right reason in the first place.

As I’ve repeatedly said it’s not about getting a thankyou. There are many reasons one might back off and not getting a thankyou isn’t one of them.

LifesTooShortForBadSex · 28/07/2025 00:49

Kirbert2 · 27/07/2025 22:47

People cope differently and also recover differently or not completely depending on the reason for the cardiac arrest or the cardiac arrest itself having lasting affects.

My son was diagnosed with cancer just a week after his cardiac arrest. I didn't have 2 minutes, life was chaotic for a very long time.

If some people would back off because they might not get a thank you when someone is dealing with their own trauma and potential medical issues then they aren't doing it for the right reason in the first place.

Actually I'd say most people who jump in to help another person in a situation like this are not focusing on their motives & whether they're carrying out a 'selfless act' or not.

They're responding, in haste, to an emergency that's unfolding in front of them.

It's not actually a selfless act, it's an act of empathy. It's a split second response.

I absolutely agree with @W11df10w3r's thoughts on this.

Kirbert2 · 27/07/2025 22:47

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 21:41

Well the man my husband helped to save managed to acknowledge my husband when he was back on his feet. It takes 2 minutes. He was questioning if he’d do it again before he was approached by the family. Ive been in the position myself with loved one who had CPR in a traumatic situation. When the dust dies down it is the right thing to do unless we want the general public to back off and not do anything in these situations.

People cope differently and also recover differently or not completely depending on the reason for the cardiac arrest or the cardiac arrest itself having lasting affects.

My son was diagnosed with cancer just a week after his cardiac arrest. I didn't have 2 minutes, life was chaotic for a very long time.

If some people would back off because they might not get a thank you when someone is dealing with their own trauma and potential medical issues then they aren't doing it for the right reason in the first place.

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:21

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:17

I don't... because that is not why you try to save a life.

Didn’t say it was. You don’t save a life to process it after🤔 however somebody being able to do it again and not left with trauma, guilt, worry is important-particularly when they’ve done it twice successfully.

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:17

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:13

In your option. In my opinion I think it’s important.

I don't... because that is not why you try to save a life.

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:16

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 22:08

And as several people have pointed out, processing can be helped by various services on offer. Expectation of support from the person you have helped is unreasonable - there are numerous reasons why they wouldn’t want to - even if they actually knew who had helped them. It’s more about validation than processing. You know it and so do I.

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This. "I want a pat on the back from the person I saved" basically.
Accept the ones from those close to you and move on.

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:15

RobertaFirmino · 27/07/2025 22:12

If the good deed was helping out at the church jumble sale or feeding next door's cat whilst they are on holiday then yes, you absolutely do put these things out of your mind when they are over. They aren't traumatic things though and are easy to dismiss. A life or death situation is different though.

Yes, so get support for it. But not from the people you saved.

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:13

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:09

And several people on this thread have also been in that position, and many years later are still traumatised by the whole event. They have not been able to reach out to thank anyone... and they should not feel pressured to do so.

In your option. In my opinion I think it’s important.

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:12

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:05

You said he was questioning whether or not he would do it again before he was thanked by the family.

That is not processing. That is expecting thanks.

If he wants to process what happened, then he needs to speak to someone that is not the patient or their family. Again, plenty or organisations mentioned on this thread.

I said
”He was questioning if he’d do it again before he was approached by the family.”

The thanks that was a small
part of the reaching out was neither here nor there.

RobertaFirmino · 27/07/2025 22:12

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:08

I know... but several people have mentioned organisations that can help with laypeople who have had to do CPR etc.

All some of us is trying to say is that trying to get that support from the person they gave CPR to (or that person's family) is not the way to go about things.

Good deeds are not bound by strings or conditions. You let go as soon as it is done.

If the good deed was helping out at the church jumble sale or feeding next door's cat whilst they are on holiday then yes, you absolutely do put these things out of your mind when they are over. They aren't traumatic things though and are easy to dismiss. A life or death situation is different though.

lovemeblender · 27/07/2025 22:10

I think it's fine to be sad not to have a bit of acknowledgement from the person or their family, but this can be a really complex trauma, so don't take it personally. My brother's FIL collapsed, my DB (who is CPR trained through work) raced round to the house and performed CPR until the ambulance arrived 15 minutes later to defibrillate him. The FIL was in hospital for months, it was so touch and go for him and they did not know if he would make a full recovery. The FIL is apparently very embarrassed about "the whole incident" and has never been able to speak about it to DB (although he has mentioned it to family).The whole family feel hugely indebted to him, he literally saved his life, but they are not the type to talk about it.

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:09

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:08

Professionals are completely different, they choose to do it, are the right people
to do it, do it regularly and are throughly trained for one thing. A brief work course several years prior to staying alive isn’t the same.

And no sorry I think those that are saved have a part to play. I couldn’t imagine not reaching out to be frank and I’ve in that position.

And several people on this thread have also been in that position, and many years later are still traumatised by the whole event. They have not been able to reach out to thank anyone... and they should not feel pressured to do so.

Rosscameasdoody · 27/07/2025 22:08

W11df10w3r · 27/07/2025 22:02

Because I never said it was from wanting them to be grateful enough( as you’re conveniently now leaving out). It’s about processing as I’ve said multiple times.

And as several people have pointed out, processing can be helped by various services on offer. Expectation of support from the person you have helped is unreasonable - there are numerous reasons why they wouldn’t want to - even if they actually knew who had helped them. It’s more about validation than processing. You know it and so do I.

XenoBitch · 27/07/2025 22:08

RobertaFirmino · 27/07/2025 22:03

Let's remember that paramedics are generally given the appropriate support and they also have each other. They are trained in how to deal with these things mentally. The average lay person is not.

I know... but several people have mentioned organisations that can help with laypeople who have had to do CPR etc.

All some of us is trying to say is that trying to get that support from the person they gave CPR to (or that person's family) is not the way to go about things.

Good deeds are not bound by strings or conditions. You let go as soon as it is done.

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