Is Dd being used as income stream?

Do you actually get a chance to talk to the BF, OP? Is this something he would discuss with you? I know that really it's none of your business, but if you could just have a chat with him about it, it may be useful to know how he actually feels about it, and if he's used to being manipulated by parents, possibly someone else's parent pointing out any pitfalls, may make him think differently about taking it on. Perhaps you could ask him the various questions that PP's have put to you, and then depending on his answers, possibly present him with your own thoughts as a parent, and more experienced person, saying something like, "actually Steve, although your parents probably intend this to be a nice thing, it could end up proving to be a millstone around your neck, for example are you actually ready to pay Council Tax on a much larger property than you live in now?"

If anything it sounds as though your DD would be losing out. Extra travel costs, more energy used in a 4 bed house than the 2 bed house she’s already in, if they split up for any reason she’ll be the one to have to leave, no idea who she’d be sharing with, having to wake earlier for commute to work/uni; not even a difference in rent and than there is the actual cost of moving and the upheaval.
I can’t think of one single advantage to her moving 🤷🏻‍♀️

If she was smart she’d tell him he can move on there and get a housemate. Too young to be living with a man anyway.

It's an awkward situation isn't it. Her boyfriend doesn't want to upset his parents, and perhaps he is quite happy with what they have offered.

However, if your daughter doesn't like the house or its location - it's also more expensive, plus there is uncertainty as to whether there will be other tenants (which might not be a good thing), then I think she should stick to her guns.

His parents appear to be wealthy. They don't appear to be doing the young people any favours, money wise. In fact they sound a bit mean. What difference does it make to his parents if your daughter and their son decide to live elsewhere? They can rent it to someone else.

If her boyfriend is unwilling to tell his parents this and tries to persuade your daughter to accept this arrangement, it demonstrates a lack of independence from his parents - and that is concerning.

Noo I wouldn't like that either. What happens if she splits from her boyfriend? Will there be a proper tenacy agreement? Because it sounds like there wont be and Im sure the parents would kick her out if something went wrong.

It's also not a great honour. They are practically asking her to rent their home and pay rent and bills! That's not an honour - its called being a landlord!

It's too messy, sounds like she isn't even keen and i think she should steer well clear of it.

Hi XXX
Thanks for the offer. I however like the home we live in now and we are settled so will pass.
Have a good day.

BF has to suck it up with his parents.

This is the BFs chance to decide who he prioritises in life: his parents or his partner. Let's hope he makes the 'right' decision.

It’s probably quite devious of them as they could let him off/ give him it back/ save it and give him his share back at a later date. But take money off of daughter. I’ve known this happen!

Then she has no future with him anyway, because he's showing her he'll always put his parents wishes above hers, the person he's supposed to be a partner to. He's just living with her for convenience, not because he considers her a partner. Otherwise he'd not even contemplate going along with this.

This also hasn't come out of nowhere, his parents will have form for being controlling so she'd best remind herself if she stays with him this is the dynamic she'll be shackling herself to.

DD should say no, even if it means they split up (and she absolutely should break up with him if he's moving out of the home they share together just to appease his parents!). The parents are obviously showy types. They haven't considered the possibility a person might want to live in a smaller property through choice. They're also manipulative hence presenting it as a fait accompli, with no consideration for what their son might want.

Mainly she should say no because she doesn't want to, but also because she'd be paying the same for something of lesser value to her. From DDs perspective, the area isn't as convenient, the utilities and council tax will cost more, there'll be a bigger space to clean and a garden to maintain, they're likely to need to buy more or bigger furniture and not forgetting they will have to do/pay for repairs themselves ("helping out with upkeep" is totally going to translate into "no repairs from landlord" with CFs like this). Of course she doesn't want to live with randoms. One of the perks of being in a relationship is you've someone to split bills with and don't have to live in an actual flat share any more because between you you can at least rent a studio flat.

I wouldn't assume that they are using her for anything. They might have good intentions. However, it's not a good move for her. If she moves in, feeling under pressure and not liking the area, the relationship won't last.

they haven't had the courtesy to give the pair of them full information about this rental..
will the parents be the landlords?
Will the couple each have their name on the lease agreement.
Will there even be a lease agreement.
Its a four bed house... are they expected to find and manage lodgers.
If so is there a rental discount for this work.
When the parents say responsible for up keep of the property what does that mean.. pay for the annual gas inspection, or pay for repairs?

Until all of those issues are settled, I wouldn't accept that. And ultimately, they have not been given a choice. They are the ones expected to live there and from the sounds of it for a higher rent than they currently pay in an area that is further away.

The BF may benefit eventually, but there's no guarantee.. Unlikely that your DD will unless they get married.. And if the rent is higher it impedes their chances of saving for their own property. I think they could end up being cheap letting agents for the parents.

Although neither you nor DD are being unreasonable about how this has been presented she does run the risk of being made homeless and having to find somewhere else to rent, possibly on her own. Unless the boyfriend prepared to do anything about it she could get stuck with either a choice to move with him or move elsewhere without him.!

Won't the council tax on a property of that size be pretty hefty? Who's liable for that?

If they rent it to individuals would it count as a hmo and come with fees and regulations…. If their son lives there would the individuals become lodgers and therefore less fees and less regulations?

and no protection for DD if they were to break up suddenly.

If it was , I would offer him marriage and moving then only afterwards.

This exact thing happened to a dear friend of mine 20 years ago. She made the mistake to move in. After a few years her BF's parents sold the house with no agreement from her or the BF, they were expected to just move out and move on. Because they'd paid market rates they hadn't been able to save anything for a deposit of their own, and went into privately renting elsewhere. I was furious for her.

By that time she'd married the BF and he was very much under the thumb of his parents. I lost touch with them after I moved away so I don't know what happened since but I know they're still married.

Your DD needs to run a mile from this if she wants any autonomy over her future.

It's not a 'nice thing' at all. There is no benefit to this and it sounds like t's 12 miles away from where she wants to be, which is hardly insignificant. It also sounds like the boyfriend doesn't stand up for himself against his parents.
She should just live where she wants to, with or without her boyfriend.

There established LL if DD doesn’t rent it then they’ll rent it to someone else there not using your daughter as a cash cow

it’s there money so why wouldn’t it be in there name

she doesn’t have to move

I'm married and have been with DH for 20 years. I trust him and his family. I still wouldn't risk renting a house of them though unless I was absolutely desperate. Too many potential risks and complications. Who's going to be the priority if they split? What conditions will be tied to it? Will they be inspecting the property like landlords at every visit that should just be a casual meeting with families? Will they feel they are entitled to let themselves in whenever they please? Will they have a legally binding tenancy agreement or will they think they can get away with doing what they like?

Grabby parents, weedy BF.

DD gets 0 benefit.

What shitty parents renting it out to their kid at market rates. Tell her to say no if she doesn't like it. What are the advantage of it?

It's nothing to do with them where she lives! That's her choice.

How is it a nice thing? They’re not letting them stay for free! They’d be paying rent.

i’d bd reassuring your DD that she’s right to stick to position of being happy where she’s living and simply to say, thank you for the offer but it doesn’t suit me so no thank you I won’t bf moving in.

she doesn’t need to discuss if or have anyone negotiate it with her. She doesn’t want to move into that house and therefore her no is enough.

keep reiterating this to her, her feelings are valid, she doesn’t have to move just to be polite. Her boyfriend can if he wants to.

If this is the way her bf's parents control his life then I think she should be wary of her relationship with him.

If he always does what his parents tell him and their wishes take precedence then the future doesnt bode well.

I hope your dd maintains her independence and doesnt get sucked in to their life plan for their son.