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To be worried sick about my DS (18) and this girl who's dragged him through hell??

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SillySocks87 · 26/07/2025 18:57

Right I dunno where to even start but I’m shaking and feel like I need to just get it out somewhere cos no one really gets it. My DS is 18 and he’s been off and on with this girl since he was about 14. She’s a bit older (just turned 21 in June) and I’ve never liked her if I’m honest but he’s always gone running back. She’s just bad news and always has been.

He used to be such a good lad when he was younger, bit quiet but sweet. Then she came on the scene and he’s been off the rails ever since. Smoking weed every day near enough, drinking, getting into scraps. He doesn’t even really talk to me anymore and when he does he’s either off his face or shouting. He works as a mechanic (well when he bloody turns up which isn’t often) and still lives with me.

He’s not had the easiest life, I’ve tried my best. His dad’s not really around much and to be honest that’s a blessing cos he’s not a nice bloke, drinks too much and violent. I left him years ago for a reason. But I think my son’s always missed him in some way, even if he won’t say it.

Anyway this girl… god where do I start. She’s always had everything handed to her, her dad buys her anything she wants, she doesn’t work, thinks she’s better than us cos we’re working class. She’s always had something to say about how we live, what we eat, even the bloody telly we’ve got.

She gave birth to their first baby when my DS was just 15, few months off 16. He was still a kid himself. I remember standing there in the hospital feeling like I was in a dream. He didn’t even know how to hold her properly at first. But he tried, I’ll give him that. He really did. I did everything I could too but it’s hard. They broke up and got back together and broke up again and it’s been like that ever since.

This last month though it’s gone proper mad. She told him she was pregnant again and he was actually happy about it. Said he was gonna “do it proper this time” and be a family. I was shocked but said I’d support him whatever. He was walking round with his chest puffed out like he was a proper man now, telling people he was gonna be a dad again.

Then last night it all kicked off. He came in like a tornado, slamming doors, crying (which he never does), rooting through the cupboards looking for booze. Smashed his phone up against the wall. Turns out she LIED about being pregnant. She told him she “thought she’d get pregnant eventually” cos they was having unprotected sex so she thought he’d never know. But the dates wouldn't have added up and she thought he was too thick to work it out.

I don’t even know what’s going on in her head but she’s really twisted. My heart breaks for him even though he’s not easy to live with. He looked so broken last night I didn’t know what to do. We’re not even close anymore, I don’t think he trusts me or anyone.

And now… he’s back with her. After all that. Straight back to her. I wanna shake him. I feel like I’m watching a car crash in slow motion and there’s nothing I can do. He won’t listen to me. I can’t even talk to him without him getting aggressive or walking off.

I don’t know if he’s got ADHD or something, I’ve said it for years. He’s always been a bit wired, always on edge, can’t sit still. But he never got any help in school and now he’s too old to even bother with all that probably.

AIBU to just be absolutely heartbroken and scared for him? I’ve tried everything. I’ve sat him down and talked, shouted, cried, even begged. I love him but he’s not the boy I raised and I’m scared one day something bad’s gonna happen and I’ll be getting a knock on the door.

Sorry it’s long and all over the place but I just needed to get it out.

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SillySocks87 · 26/07/2025 21:37

To the posters asking about reporting her or whether this is statutory rape – I did look into it at the time, but the reality is a bit complicated. I don’t think the hospital ever knew how old he was. I only took him in after the baby was born, and he wasn’t at the birth or involved in any of the pregnancy – no scans, no midwife appointments, nothing. By that point he wasn’t even going to school regularly, and social services were involved very briefly but nothing really came of it. I sometimes wonder if it had all been flagged properly, maybe things would’ve been different.

As for the baby – his daughter lives with his girlfriend. I’ve only met her a handful of times. She’s never been here; his girlfriend says it’s “not safe”, which is completely untrue. I assume when they’re both smoking weed, her mum looks after the baby, but I can’t say for sure. That side of things is very murky and I’m kept at arm’s length.

Technically, he still lives here, but when he’s with her I hardly see him. He might come in to sleep, or grab something quickly – that’s it. The rest of the time it’s like he’s just disappeared into her world, and I’m left worrying constantly about what’s actually going on.

I’m deeply concerned about his mental state and his temper. Last year, after a huge row with her, he completely lost it and smashed up a bus stop. She'd told him that she was embarrassed to be with him – he was fined, and I begged him to get help for his anger, but he just said it was a one-off and that I was overreacting. I don’t think I am.

And no, it’s not just me being snobby or “not clicking” with her because of background or class – I really don’t believe that. Her attitude from the start has been incredibly condescending. She’s openly said she likes how he’s “rough around the edges” and “better than his background”, which is such a backhanded insult. She’s made digs about what we eat, the size of our TV, even said our house smells – it doesn’t. I’ve tried to keep the peace but it’s been very hard to ignore.

I do actually agree with the poster who said she might’ve chosen him because he’s easier to control. From what he’s said, before she told him she was pregnant she already told him she wanted another baby – he told her no. They were apparently using contraception, but she told him she was pregnant anyway. He panicked but also got excited – started talking about them being a proper family, even proposing (!!). It was only last night, when he said something in front of her mum, that the truth came out. Her mum had no idea and looked shocked – and the girlfriend just sort of brushed it off. Later on she admitted she lied.

I dread to think how long she would’ve kept that going if it hadn’t slipped out like that. And now I can’t stop thinking: what if she is actually pregnant now, and this was all just a ploy to have unprotected sex? It makes me feel sick.

I want to support my son. I want to be a good grandmother, of course I do. But I also want to protect him, and I feel like he’s being pulled deeper and deeper into something he doesn’t fully understand.

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MadameTwoSwords · 26/07/2025 21:23

LaLaLandDreams · 26/07/2025 21:22

You can’t blame the girl entirely. Some of it must be down to you.

What a stupid thing to say.

MadameTwoSwords · 26/07/2025 21:22

SillySocks87 · 26/07/2025 20:10

Thanks everyone for the replies. Honestly it helps just having someone listen, cos I feel like I’m going mad some days.

We did try with the ADHD stuff, he was always bouncing off the walls as a kid, couldn’t concentrate for long, always getting sent out of class. I pushed and pushed and by the time we finally got a CAMHS appointment he was 15 – but he refused to go. Said he didn’t need it and he’s still the same now. Won’t even talk about being assessed or therapy or anything. Just shuts down or gets angry. He’s never had any kind of counselling or help, nothing.

His apprenticeship is hanging on by a thread. He’s on his final warning now. His boss has been good to him, probably given him more chances than he should’ve, but if he keeps not turning up he’ll lose it. And once that’s gone I dunno what he’ll do. He just can’t get up in the morning if he’s been on the weed the night before. Sleeps all day and then stays up all night. Vicious cycle.

He don’t talk to any of his old mates when he’s with her, she don’t like them so he cuts everyone off. It’s like she wants him all to herself. It’s been like that since they were kids. Soon as he tries to get on track she’s back, love bombing him then dragging him down again. He’s proper isolated when he’s with her.

I honestly think she wants another baby. She told him she was “testing” him to see how he’d react to the news. Who does that?? She lied for a month about being pregnant and just thought it was fine cos they were having unprotected sex so “it’d happen anyway”. She even said the dates wouldn’t matter cos “he wouldn’t notice”. Makes me feel sick.

I’ve told him he needs to get proper contact sorted through court or something but he won’t listen. He says he don’t want to make things worse or upset her family more, but it’s already a mess. She won’t let him see his daughter half the time and uses her as a weapon whenever she feels like it. And when he’s cut off from his kid he always goes back cos it’s the only way to see her.

I know he needs to be working, paying his CM, doing better. I tell him all the time. But he don’t listen to me. I feel like I’ve lost him and I’m just watching his life fall apart. I’m scared this girl’s gonna ruin what little chance he’s got left and he’ll never crawl out of it.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. Breaks my heart to read it. I've a friend who was in a very similar situation (though thankfully the girl didn't manage to get herself pregnant) and eventually her son realised what an awful person she was and left her for good. He's also got ADHD and is doing really well now (decent job and his own flat with friends) since getting the medication. Others have said it too - you can't reason him out of this. All you can do is love and support and wait and be there, as heartbreaking as it is. Make sure he knows he can always come to you and that you love him. ADHD boys often suffer with low self-esteem which this horrible relationship is feeding. Just keep on loving him and boosting his confidence in any way you can - and remind him that as a father he has legal rights which this cow cannot take away or infringe on. Best of luck to you and try and keep your chin up.

LaLaLandDreams · 26/07/2025 21:22

You can’t blame the girl entirely. Some of it must be down to you.

JMSA · 26/07/2025 21:21

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 20:04

Is it too late to report her to the police? Is this not statutory rape? Didn't the hospital or his school say anything or report this?

Realistically, only if he were to turn round and say it wasn’t consensual.

JMSA · 26/07/2025 21:18

I see boy/girl relationships like this at my work (with vulnerable teens). It’s rare that the girl is older but it does happen. Usually she doesn’t have any female friends of her own, so latches on to a younger lad because she can control him.

stayathomer · 26/07/2025 21:11

Op the only way to get through this is to be there for him, tolerate and even try your best to get to know her (anyone at that age is not going to like you not liking their partner) and be a good grandmother. I know you probably won’t agree but you sound like you haven’t clicked with her because she’s in a different class to uou. There’s a chance you’re seeing something that isn’t there, some of my in laws grabbed onto things I said and assumed I was looking down on them which I never did (obviously I don’t what she said but just in case). We get on amazingly now.

The stuff he’s doing etc, it honestly could just be stress of him being a dad having to provide etc but you have to tell him if he was going to step up for baby number 2, well baby number one still needs him. You all have to work this out together

AmusedCat · 26/07/2025 20:59

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 26/07/2025 19:43

OP-
your son needs to keep his job
He needs to pay his CM
You need to get something in place that he has fair and legal access to his daughter and that he doesn't create another baby with this woman.

Does he have mates who will give him an ear to bend and some advice because sadly , young men don;t listen to their mothers it seems .

Stating the obvious, I'm sure OP is very aware of this

Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 26/07/2025 20:52

@Screamingabdabz So mothers are irresponsible if they try and make toxic relationships work for the sake of the children, AND irresponsible if they leave toxic relationships and raise their kids alone, AND irresponsible if they get into new relationships while they have dependent children…..got it.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 26/07/2025 20:46

Screamingabdabz · 26/07/2025 19:14

So he’s had no male role model other than some drunken violent dick, but it’s all his girlfriend’s fault he’s like he is?

This woman chose to lie about being pregnant. Unless he held a knife to her neck to do so I can't quite see how her choice here was his fault. Can you elaborate?

Givenupshopping · 26/07/2025 20:41

OP, when he's with her, is he still living at home with you?

K0OLA1D · 26/07/2025 20:23

Where is the baby in all this?

SilverHammer · 26/07/2025 20:20

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Harsh.

SillySocks87 · 26/07/2025 20:10

Thanks everyone for the replies. Honestly it helps just having someone listen, cos I feel like I’m going mad some days.

We did try with the ADHD stuff, he was always bouncing off the walls as a kid, couldn’t concentrate for long, always getting sent out of class. I pushed and pushed and by the time we finally got a CAMHS appointment he was 15 – but he refused to go. Said he didn’t need it and he’s still the same now. Won’t even talk about being assessed or therapy or anything. Just shuts down or gets angry. He’s never had any kind of counselling or help, nothing.

His apprenticeship is hanging on by a thread. He’s on his final warning now. His boss has been good to him, probably given him more chances than he should’ve, but if he keeps not turning up he’ll lose it. And once that’s gone I dunno what he’ll do. He just can’t get up in the morning if he’s been on the weed the night before. Sleeps all day and then stays up all night. Vicious cycle.

He don’t talk to any of his old mates when he’s with her, she don’t like them so he cuts everyone off. It’s like she wants him all to herself. It’s been like that since they were kids. Soon as he tries to get on track she’s back, love bombing him then dragging him down again. He’s proper isolated when he’s with her.

I honestly think she wants another baby. She told him she was “testing” him to see how he’d react to the news. Who does that?? She lied for a month about being pregnant and just thought it was fine cos they were having unprotected sex so “it’d happen anyway”. She even said the dates wouldn’t matter cos “he wouldn’t notice”. Makes me feel sick.

I’ve told him he needs to get proper contact sorted through court or something but he won’t listen. He says he don’t want to make things worse or upset her family more, but it’s already a mess. She won’t let him see his daughter half the time and uses her as a weapon whenever she feels like it. And when he’s cut off from his kid he always goes back cos it’s the only way to see her.

I know he needs to be working, paying his CM, doing better. I tell him all the time. But he don’t listen to me. I feel like I’ve lost him and I’m just watching his life fall apart. I’m scared this girl’s gonna ruin what little chance he’s got left and he’ll never crawl out of it.

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Robin67 · 26/07/2025 20:04

Is it too late to report her to the police? Is this not statutory rape? Didn't the hospital or his school say anything or report this?

ManchesterGirl2 · 26/07/2025 19:51

Definitely worth seeking help for ADHD or trauma, whatever might be causing this, if he's willing to engage with it.

Also can you help him fight to get proper access arrangements in place for seeing his child. The mother shouldn't be able to block contact to punish him. It would give her less power over him.

JLou08 · 26/07/2025 19:44

Had he had any therapy for his childhood trauma? Many people repeat the pattern of toxic/abusive relationships if that was the relationship their parents had. If he would be up for it I'd encourage him to arrange some. In some areas a self-referral can be done to talking therapies online. Once he realises how unhealthy the relationship is for him and his child he may be more able to stay out of it. Childhood Trauma can also mirror ADHD symptoms so working on that could help with the other symptoms you mention, self medicating with drugs is also common so that may also be something he could address. Substance misuse services often look at the root cause of drug use to get over the addiction.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 26/07/2025 19:43

OP-
your son needs to keep his job
He needs to pay his CM
You need to get something in place that he has fair and legal access to his daughter and that he doesn't create another baby with this woman.

Does he have mates who will give him an ear to bend and some advice because sadly , young men don;t listen to their mothers it seems .

3luckystars · 26/07/2025 19:41

You have said you always suspected he had ADHD, what did you do about this?

Sorry you are suffering.

ConfusedSloth · 26/07/2025 19:39

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What has OP done wrong exactly?

Strawberrri · 26/07/2025 19:39

Could DH and DS have ADHD.
Worth checking this

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 26/07/2025 19:39

Screamingabdabz · 26/07/2025 19:14

So he’s had no male role model other than some drunken violent dick, but it’s all his girlfriend’s fault he’s like he is?

Well if he was 15 and she was 18 ( so The Adult in this relationship ) she was sleeping with an underage vunerable CHILD

Now using their daughter as ammunition, stops him from seeing his daughter and lies about being pregnant ...

She's no Mother Thersa is she ?

But of course , it;s the DS and the Dads fault .
This is MN <Face/Palm>

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murasaki · 26/07/2025 19:33

What is his problem with condoms?

I do feel for you, it must be a nightmare trying to balance keeping communication open with him while knowing this is fucked up.

TheLivelyViper · 26/07/2025 19:32

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