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To wonder why there isn’t more uproar about Sudan?

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AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 12:40

Sudan- where the actual worst humanitarian crisis in the world is happening right now. War, starvation, displacement of millions of people, suffering on a scale like nowhere else in the world. And yet it’s being virtually ignored. There have been maybe half a dozen threads about Sudan on mumsnet in the last year or so, compared with dozens discussing Israel/Gaza. On social media, for every one post I see mentioning Sudan, I have probably seen 20 or more about Gaza. Save The Children, for example, has posted seventeen times about Gaza in the past month and only once about Sudan.

Why? Why is Sudan being ignored while such a glaring light is being shone on Gaza? Is it because there are no Jewish people to blame for the Sudanese conflict? Or because the people suffering are black?

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usedtobeaylis · 26/07/2025 13:47

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:44

Haven’t said that myself though have I? Or am I proxy for everyone else who comments now?

No need to get snippy just because you don't actually give a shite about Sudan.

usedtobeaylis · 26/07/2025 13:46

itstartedinthepeaks · 26/07/2025 13:21

I don’t think it is racism actually and I don’t deny that those forms of racism can and frequently do exist. I think it’s that sub Saharan Africa is just synonymous with poverty, disease and war. We’re used to it. Awful, but true.

I think this is partially true however I also think when there is something as ongoing as the situation in Sudan it slightly shifts the focus. For example I heard about and supported initiatives around the Kakuma refugee camp - which isn't in Sudan but was established for and continues to house Sudanese refugees - initially through Filia. The practical things you can do to support people there are a bit different from the things you can do to support Palestine given visible and continued UK involvement.

There are peaks and troughs in awareness and Palestine was also in more of a trough for a long time.

MyHonestFaves · 26/07/2025 13:45

It’s a valid and important question. The crisis in Sudan is severe, but it hasn’t received the same attention. A mix of factors might be at play, media focus, political narratives, public familiarity, and sadly, racial bias. It doesn’t make sense that so much suffering is going unnoticed. More awareness and pressure are definitely needed.

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:44

usedtobeaylis · 26/07/2025 13:34

The fact that you start this thread and blithely pull this up but ignore all the people calling Palestine a 'trendy uproar' and 'fashionable' says plenty about you actually.

Haven’t said that myself though have I? Or am I proxy for everyone else who comments now?

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AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:43

zaazaazoom · 26/07/2025 13:30

Please for god sake make your post about Sudan and not about Israel/Gaza. What do you think we should be doing about Sudan? How can we make an impact? Who should we be putting pressure on?

Do you actually care?

We have plenty of links with countries supplying arms to the conflict, for example China, Turkey, and most especially the UAE. I have written to my MP appealing for sanctions to be placed on those countries to pressure them to stop.

The suffering and abuse of children is endemic and horrific. Donations can be made to UNICEF and the World Food Programme which are running specific fundraising appeals for Sudan.

I have attended several protests and rallies in London this year - there don’t appear to be any more currently being organised but I plan to go to as many as I can.

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cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 13:40

Sudan isn't fashionable

Wareart · 26/07/2025 13:36

I think the most immediately impactful action would be to pressure the USA to restore its foreign aid because the withdrawal of that funding is what's caused the most pressing hunger.

For the rest, I guess lean on UAE, but that's probably already happening (one would hope, anyway) to a quiet extent that doesn't put us in a bad position with them.

usedtobeaylis · 26/07/2025 13:34

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:28

That you can dismiss a thread about the worst humanitarian crisis on the planet as nothing but “whataboutery” says an awful lot more about you than it does about me.

The fact that you start this thread and blithely pull this up but ignore all the people calling Palestine a 'trendy uproar' and 'fashionable' says plenty about you actually.

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:33

ThisOpalNewt · 26/07/2025 13:23

This is such a middle-class MN thread by people not suffering in their own lives so they're outraged by people in the UK not dedicating thought to the Sudan.

I normally hate the idea of privilege but this is the epitome of it.

Middle class posters virtue signalling about why people in the UK aren't concerned about a country 3000 miles away.

Get a grip.

Gaza is over 2000 miles away, plenty of people doing an excellent job of appearing to be concerned about that

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NotDavidTennant · 26/07/2025 13:33

Can western journalists even get access to Sudan to report what is happening?

usedtobeaylis · 26/07/2025 13:32

I don't think people have the capacity to treat absolutely everything as their immediate and most pressing issue of the day. For a lot of people the fact that the UK is supporting a country actively committing a genocide is a defining factor. It's not that fucking hard to work out so can we just dispense with the fake confusion and pretence of not understanding.

sophistitroll · 26/07/2025 13:32

It doesn’t involve Jews that’s why.

zaazaazoom · 26/07/2025 13:30

Please for god sake make your post about Sudan and not about Israel/Gaza. What do you think we should be doing about Sudan? How can we make an impact? Who should we be putting pressure on?

Do you actually care?

Tia247 · 26/07/2025 13:28

I think it's really because it hasn't featured hugely in the media - and it hasn't featured hugely in the media because there's no major event to capture everyone's attention and there's no impact to people in the UK.

It's a civil war that's been on and off for decades with numerous coups in between, the misery rumbles on endlessly. I can't imagine all the people there have been through, I really hope they get peace and democracy soon.

GentleIron · 26/07/2025 13:28

I can't work out whether your question is genuine, or whether you are obliquely having a pop at those who criticise Israeli policy on, and practice in Palestine?

But to take your question at face value, and consider only Sudan and not the many other international conflicts and human rights atrocities currently occurring across the globe, I think the conflict in Sudan feels impenetrable to many casual observers on account of it being a civil war. I have worked with Sudanese immigrants and asylum-seekers (among other nationalities) for decades and the layers and intersection of conflict are so complex that it is unclear what, if anything, a lay-person can feasibly do to influence impactful change. The conflicts we tend to see strong public engagement with are often those where ordinary people feel they can contribute in some small way to show solidarity with an obvious underdog, effect a resolution or relieve suffering.

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:28

JHound · 26/07/2025 13:25

People can talk about both, neither or either.

But that’s not what OP is doing. This thread is goldplated whataboutery.

Edited

That you can dismiss a thread about the worst humanitarian crisis on the planet as nothing but “whataboutery” says an awful lot more about you than it does about me.

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JHound · 26/07/2025 13:26

itstartedinthepeaks · 26/07/2025 13:21

I don’t think it is racism actually and I don’t deny that those forms of racism can and frequently do exist. I think it’s that sub Saharan Africa is just synonymous with poverty, disease and war. We’re used to it. Awful, but true.

I think this is sad but also true.

AngeloMysterioso · 26/07/2025 13:26

Perhaps we are not directly involved in the Sudanese conflict but we certainly have plenty of links with countries that are. And regardless of that, the end result is the same. Suffering, starvation, death. In the threads about Gaza there is little mention of how our government is involved, it’s just condemnation of Israel and despair over the suffering of Palestinians. Where is the condemnation of the war mongerers in Sudan? Where are the bleeding hearts for the children dying of starvation? Nope just deafening silence.

I haven’t been silent. I’ve posted, I’ve been to rallies and fundraisers, I’ve written to politicians, I’ve donated to charities... coming home from an event a few months ago I was carrying a Sudanese flag and a passer by actually stopped me to let me know it wasn’t the flag of Palestine. Like thanks love, I actually did know that. They thought I’d made a mistake.

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JHound · 26/07/2025 13:25

GentleSheep · 26/07/2025 13:20

Surely we can talk about both - indeed ALL places where violence is taking place.

People can talk about both, neither or either.

But that’s not what OP is doing. This thread is goldplated whataboutery.

fluffiphlox · 26/07/2025 13:25

The media tend to only cover one foreign story at a time, though Channel 4 News does a better job than most.

Ginmonkeyagain · 26/07/2025 13:23

We and other Western Nations very much facilitated the Saudi led intervention in Yemen, which caused unimaginable suffering.

I am absolutely appalled by what is currently happenign in Gaza and fervently hope for a ceasefire. However I do think Gaza and Palestine gets more attention from a certain type of activist as it is one of those omni causes that is baked in to to a certain political vew point - mainly as a proxy for hating the USA.

NB that does not mean I don't think what is currently happening there isn't absolutely horrific.

ThisOpalNewt · 26/07/2025 13:23

This is such a middle-class MN thread by people not suffering in their own lives so they're outraged by people in the UK not dedicating thought to the Sudan.

I normally hate the idea of privilege but this is the epitome of it.

Middle class posters virtue signalling about why people in the UK aren't concerned about a country 3000 miles away.

Get a grip.

itstartedinthepeaks · 26/07/2025 13:21

I don’t think it is racism actually and I don’t deny that those forms of racism can and frequently do exist. I think it’s that sub Saharan Africa is just synonymous with poverty, disease and war. We’re used to it. Awful, but true.

GentleSheep · 26/07/2025 13:20

JHound · 26/07/2025 13:10

Whatabout

Whatabout

Whataboutery.

Do you care about Sudan or are you just trying to shut people up talking about Israel?

Surely we can talk about both - indeed ALL places where violence is taking place.

LakieLady · 26/07/2025 13:19

I agree, @Multispool . Sudan has struggled since it became independent in the 1950's. Between civil wars and dictatorship, the people have never experienced peace and freedom. I think that's part of the reason we don't hear more about it.

Also, the poverty and conflict in Sudan is seen to be essentially an internal matter, they haven't been attacked by an invading army, so it's not newsworthy in the way that the Gaza war is.

Unicef have an appeal running for aid in Sudan: Unicef Sudan appeal

Donate now to protect children in Sudan

Please donate to our Sudan appeal to help us reach more children affected by the crisis. Help us keep children safe in Sudan today.

https://www.unicef.org.uk/donate/sudan-appeal/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20028312605&gbraid=0AAAAAD6VRsj_MpOMOoC2r5KIg4NvDTOpd&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-ZHEBhCxARIsAGGN96J-wnwNQIkb0yQARAenKbUjPakQh7jsjiTWTYQ_hjYpSbBZTbeWy00aAhGGEALw_wcB