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Should I have just kept on running

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JuliaSaysHi · 26/07/2025 12:00

running my usual route this morning - do this regularly. In the distance - zig zag path, I see a black figure. Bit strange as warm today. Definitely black hood but and think face was covered. I am never spooked on this run although it is a river path with forest on one side. I stop on the zig zag hill path thinking figure will walk past me and then I can run on deeper into the forest area. But figure does not come towards me - I assume waiting? At this point, I am frightened and turn and run back out of the forest area onto public path. I wait at the top of the public path and no one appears. Another lady is approaching forest with her dog and I warn her of what I saw - we both decide to stick to path. I now feel I may have just seen someone wearing black - but where did they go? Very strange and unnerving.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 26/07/2025 16:02

Should I have just kept running

No. You saw something that made you wary, and you took heed of it.

Had you kept running, you'd most likely have been fine. It was probably just a teenager who felt he needed to keep up his own personal style no matter the weather.

But there's a chance it wasn't. So you took the safest option. It's something we do all the time.

There's a level crossing on my route to work. Most days, once the barriers come down I could probably get me andy bike through it with a couple of minutes to spare, but I don't, because I assess the risk and decide it's not worth it.

You did the same. Trust that.

Ooodelally · 26/07/2025 16:01

It’s never wrong to trust your gut, our instincts are there to keep us safe…

FOJN · 26/07/2025 15:44

I know people say trust your gut, but also consider your unconscious bias

When you are conscious that a man's behaviour is making you feel uncomfortable or afraid it's not unconscious bias, it's very conscious. I do not care what your son wears or what his race is, if he caused me to feel uncomfortable I would move away from him as quickly as possible. It's unreasonable to guilt women with an account of his struggles leaving the house, his feelings will never come before my sense of safety.

JuliaSaysHi · 26/07/2025 15:36

ducksinarow123 · 26/07/2025 15:04

This makes me so sad as a mum of a bi-racial older teenage boy who you will only ever see out of the house wearing a black coat or hoody with the hood up - even if it’s 30+ degrees. I worry people will automatically look at him and think he’s up to no good and should be afraid and intimidated by him when the reality is he has autism, hates being outside so has his hood up to shut out the world, would much rather be in his room on Roblox and is scared of tiny spiders (honestly would and could not hurt a fly). He's more likely to bore you to death with his monologue of the differences between the Lego Hulk figures in each different set than with any form of violence.
I know people say trust your gut, but also consider your unconscious bias

Thanks everyone for your replies. I know that trusting my instinct was the right thing. I have run this route many many times and have never felt the need to run back - PP, it wasn’t the black dress, I have run past many people wearing dark hoodies. It wasn’t the fact I saw them in the distance - near the wooded area, stopped expecting them to pass me, and they didn’t - that is strange. They just stood out and I can’t explain why. It wasn’t the black dress of the person, it was their behaviour.

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Katemax82 · 26/07/2025 15:35

ThinWomansBrain · 26/07/2025 12:34

Because he was tall, large generally or foreign?
that made him odd, or a threat?

So no ones allowed to be afraid if someone's foreign? Don't be ridiculous

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:34

@ducksinarow123

"I know people say trust your gut, but also consider your unconscious bias"

I feel for you and your son but how is a woman supposed to consider their unconscious bias? How can she determin whether a man is a possible threat or a kind, autistic soul within a few split seconds. A few split seconds that could in fact make the difference between seeing her own children again or being the headline on the morning papers. Her choices are few, especially in a country where violence against women and girls is at an epidemic level.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/07/2025 15:34

JuliaSaysHi · 26/07/2025 12:00

running my usual route this morning - do this regularly. In the distance - zig zag path, I see a black figure. Bit strange as warm today. Definitely black hood but and think face was covered. I am never spooked on this run although it is a river path with forest on one side. I stop on the zig zag hill path thinking figure will walk past me and then I can run on deeper into the forest area. But figure does not come towards me - I assume waiting? At this point, I am frightened and turn and run back out of the forest area onto public path. I wait at the top of the public path and no one appears. Another lady is approaching forest with her dog and I warn her of what I saw - we both decide to stick to path. I now feel I may have just seen someone wearing black - but where did they go? Very strange and unnerving.

Look at it this way - what is the worst that would happen with your two options? If you’d carried on, the worst that could have happened is you being attacked, but by turning back, the worst that would happen is that you don’t get your full run. As the first poster said, trust your gut.

Goodadvice1980 · 26/07/2025 15:32

Always trust your gut OP.

I have heard The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker is worth a read 📖

PerkyGreyWasp · 26/07/2025 15:31

You should read The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker. One key take away (in my understanding) is that your gut/subconscious picks up on many signals that your brain doesn't necessarily spot consciously, and that feeling you get that something is off is a warning based on those tiny signals you can't explain. Listen to it, it's there for a reason. You did the right thing.

Foreverm0re · 26/07/2025 15:28

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:24

I agree. My distrust of men extends to all races equally.

Same. The man who decided to grab my bum as I walked home from work was foreign. The man who flashed at me was not.

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:24

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 15:21

It's not unreasonable to be wary of men, partly because they are likely to be physically more powerful than you.

It unreasonable to be more wary of men because you perceive they may be "foreign".

I agree. My distrust of men extends to all races equally.

FOJN · 26/07/2025 15:23

You did the right thing. Maybe he was completely harmless but why risk it. Ignore anyone who tries to make you feel guilty or like you over reacted. Thank you for warning the dog walker so you could both make decisions about your safety.

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 15:21

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:02

@ThinWomansBrain

"If someone genuinely thinks that anyone larger, taller them should be prevented from taking a walk because they might pose a threat..."

I don't think anyone on this thread has suggested that. But I do know that if I'm dog walking, or whatever, in a fairly remote place and I see a lone man coming towards me I am momentarily uneasy. I'd like to say that I (along with countless other women) am being utterly irrational. But we're not. There is a reason why women feel this way.

It's not unreasonable to be wary of men, partly because they are likely to be physically more powerful than you.

It unreasonable to be more wary of men because you perceive they may be "foreign".

Foreverm0re · 26/07/2025 15:08

ducksinarow123 · 26/07/2025 15:04

This makes me so sad as a mum of a bi-racial older teenage boy who you will only ever see out of the house wearing a black coat or hoody with the hood up - even if it’s 30+ degrees. I worry people will automatically look at him and think he’s up to no good and should be afraid and intimidated by him when the reality is he has autism, hates being outside so has his hood up to shut out the world, would much rather be in his room on Roblox and is scared of tiny spiders (honestly would and could not hurt a fly). He's more likely to bore you to death with his monologue of the differences between the Lego Hulk figures in each different set than with any form of violence.
I know people say trust your gut, but also consider your unconscious bias

Yes women, risk your safety so you don’t accidentally offend someone 🙄

ducksinarow123 · 26/07/2025 15:04

This makes me so sad as a mum of a bi-racial older teenage boy who you will only ever see out of the house wearing a black coat or hoody with the hood up - even if it’s 30+ degrees. I worry people will automatically look at him and think he’s up to no good and should be afraid and intimidated by him when the reality is he has autism, hates being outside so has his hood up to shut out the world, would much rather be in his room on Roblox and is scared of tiny spiders (honestly would and could not hurt a fly). He's more likely to bore you to death with his monologue of the differences between the Lego Hulk figures in each different set than with any form of violence.
I know people say trust your gut, but also consider your unconscious bias

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:02

@ThinWomansBrain

"If someone genuinely thinks that anyone larger, taller them should be prevented from taking a walk because they might pose a threat..."

I don't think anyone on this thread has suggested that. But I do know that if I'm dog walking, or whatever, in a fairly remote place and I see a lone man coming towards me I am momentarily uneasy. I'd like to say that I (along with countless other women) am being utterly irrational. But we're not. There is a reason why women feel this way.

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 14:56

She wrote "There are so many odd people about" then went on, in the same paragraph, to describe an incident where she met a stranger and was intimidated by him. If she didn't think he was odd, she is a confusingly poor writer.

zingally · 26/07/2025 14:52

If your gut is telling you something is off, I think it's prudent to heed it. After all, it's that gut instinct that has kept the human race going for this long!

ThinWomansBrain · 26/07/2025 14:31

@SriouslyWhutNow so maybe I should just have reported the racist comment made by @dottiedodah ?

If someone genuinely thinks that anyone larger, taller them should be prevented from taking a walk because they might pose a threat, of god forbid they make an inoffensive comment and happen to have a foreign accent, maybe they'd be better off staying home & keeping their racist opinions to herself.

Judiezones · 26/07/2025 14:18

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 14:10

In her second sentence. Before the racism.

Edited

That was a generalisation. She didn't say the man she saw was odd.

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 14:10

Judiezones · 26/07/2025 12:46

Where does she say he was odd?

In her second sentence. Before the racism.

MasterBeth · 26/07/2025 14:08

SriouslyWhutNow · 26/07/2025 12:45

Uh oh, someone mentioned "foreign", good thing someone arrived on the thread to pick it apart to make a barely-concealed political point even though the rest of the comment was bloody obvious that some bloke built like a brick shithouse is blatantly a threat to a lone woman. 🙄 Someone will be on next to ask how the PP knew it was a man because that silly political point hasn't been made yet either.

The "barely concealed" political point came from the poster who brought it up. It's called "barely concealed" racism.

FullOfMomsense · 26/07/2025 14:02

dottiedodah · 26/07/2025 12:17

I would not risk it OP. There are so many odd people about .A while ago I was walking my dog on the golf course nearby.No one around .A huge foreign guy appeared. must have been about 6ft 6 and very muscular .He walked towards me and I was so scared/shaking .He smiled and said "lovely dog!" Even so It spooked me that if he had been bad news, there would have been no one nearby .I would be careful OP there is just nowhere left that is 100% safe sadly

How did you know he was foreign? Bit weird to describe that like it's a scary trait

DidieRi · 26/07/2025 14:00

I would have done the same thing. It was insensitive of whoever it was to be wearing that shitty type ninja uniform wanna be thugs wear. I think those black face coverings should be banned. Why would anyone sane and aimiable hide their face? It’s not ok.
Great job on warning the other woman too. Well done.

DonewhatIcando · 26/07/2025 13:47

@JuliaSaysHi
Very sensible, you've got instincts for a reason, always follow them.
👏 for warning the other lady too.
Never worry about looking silly or offending anyone.
Your safety comes first

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