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Don't want to go out to dinner with this family member.

89 replies

Poodlelove · 26/07/2025 09:05

They have 2 teenagers who have always sat at the table on their phones.
The mum orders for them as they can't keep their eyes off their phones.
They don't eat all of their main meal but both parents then ask them if they want dessert , and they always mumble " yes".
Then the mother asks them what they want and they don't look at the menu , she reads the menu to them.
They get asked if they want another drink so they quickly drink up their current drink and order another.
To me going out for a meal is a treat but to them it's a weekly thing.I cannot justify spending so much money on a meal , we decide if we are going to have a starter or a dessert , I know it sounds like we are tight but really we don't earn enough to budget for this unless it is for a special occasion.
This family are coming to visit again soon and have invited other people too.Everone is apparently looking forward to it , where as I am working all day ( minimum wage) and dreading it.
Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
BusWankers · 26/07/2025 16:11

shellster80 · 26/07/2025 16:09

I can’t see anything here I can get my knickers in a twist about. I’m the parent of a 14y old boy and does he sometimes go on his phone if we’re out with family to eat? Yes sometimes because sometimes the adults are chatting about stuff which he has no interest in and cannot join in with. Is he rude and ignores people when spoken to? No. Would I read the menu to him? Absolutely not, but these aren’t your kids so not your issue. Not your circus and all that…..
Unless as others have said you are all splitting the bill? In which case I’d just say sorry but we’re on a budget so will need to just pay for our own. You can still enjoy the rest of the adults company surely? It sounds like you just don’t like the teens very much tbh…..which I get, they can be hard work. But on the other hand they’re quiet so not bothering anyone..

Well the adults are being poor company if they're unable to include a 14yo in conversations. Also the 14 yo is allowed to be a bit bored.

BusWankers · 26/07/2025 16:10

What's the actual issue, teenagers being allowed to be antisocial dicks staring at their phones whilst with family and friends?

So tell them that's the reason. There's absolutely no reason for anyone to be gawping at a phone during any meal.

They can learn to have actual conversations.

shellster80 · 26/07/2025 16:09

I can’t see anything here I can get my knickers in a twist about. I’m the parent of a 14y old boy and does he sometimes go on his phone if we’re out with family to eat? Yes sometimes because sometimes the adults are chatting about stuff which he has no interest in and cannot join in with. Is he rude and ignores people when spoken to? No. Would I read the menu to him? Absolutely not, but these aren’t your kids so not your issue. Not your circus and all that…..
Unless as others have said you are all splitting the bill? In which case I’d just say sorry but we’re on a budget so will need to just pay for our own. You can still enjoy the rest of the adults company surely? It sounds like you just don’t like the teens very much tbh…..which I get, they can be hard work. But on the other hand they’re quiet so not bothering anyone..

RadioWhatsNew · 26/07/2025 16:02

I'm struggling to understand what your issue is @Poodlelove is it because you can't afford to go for a meal? Is it just the poor (agree poor behaviour and parenting) of the teens) or is it because the cost of the meal is shared and not divided based on who ate/drank what which then costs you more to eat out?

I'm just really struggling to understand how them having a pudding affects you personally unless it's to do with how the bill is then split?

Ooodelally · 26/07/2025 15:55

Dear family member,
I can’t afford to go out for a meal very often so when I do, I don’t want to have it ruined by rude children like yours. Hope you have fun.
Love,
OP

DiscoBob · 26/07/2025 15:44

I've never invited people for a meal then monitored what their teens were or were not eating or ordering. If they're on their phones then fine. Surely you've got adult conversation you'd rather be having than trying to engage unwilling teens in pointless chit chat.

I don't really see how it could negatively affect you in any meaningful way. If they were overly talkative, rude, ordered loads of food and ate messily, wouldn't let you and your friends chat properly, tried to drink alcohol etc that could be annoying too if you let it. So sitting on phones and grunting isn't really an issue for me.

They're not your kids and they just don't want to be there. Not that unusual for teens.

Soon enough they'll probably stop being dragged along to such things and you needn't concern yourself anymore.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 26/07/2025 15:33

Make it clear you’ll only pay for what you eat/drink. Or suggest a take away and do the same, or a pot luck buffet.

I detest food and drink waste, and that’s irrelevant of how much it costs or how affordable it is. I certainly wouldn’t be paying for food and drink others thoughtlessly ordered that they really didn’t need.

RosesAndHellebores · 26/07/2025 15:32

It isn't the money and the spending that is the issue it's the complete lack of good manners. I can only assume these teenagers must have learning difficulties if their mother is reading the menu to them.

Sunshineismyfavourite · 26/07/2025 15:27

I'm assuming you're not paying for them? They sound annoying and definitely not the type of guests I'd choose the have dinner with. Having said that, I'd probably just go anyway, so long as all it's costing me is a night out? But if they bother you so much then do as pps have already mentioned and come up with an excuse not to go.

zanahoria · 26/07/2025 15:16

" I know it sounds like we are tight "

It certainly doesn't

ScarlettOYara · 26/07/2025 15:12

Caggy90 · 26/07/2025 15:06

The reason is she’s insufferable! 😅

Oh dear! Tricky to phrase 😂

DeliaOwens · 26/07/2025 15:10

Just say:
I’m going to have to skip this one. I won’t be able to make it, but I hope everyone has a great time! Let’s catch up soon in another way/for coffee/for a walk etc
No excuses, no mention of differing finances, no mention of surly teens, just a sorry can’t make it let’s reschedule.

godmum56 · 26/07/2025 15:06

Ellmau · 26/07/2025 10:38

They're family, they know you're not a high earner.

Just say sorry, you'd love to come but you can't afford to.

they may not. I actually like my sibs but they have no idea of my income nor I of theirs.

Caggy90 · 26/07/2025 15:06

ScarlettOYara · 26/07/2025 14:57

What's the reason though?
Mostly you'd just put up with minor issues, go along and enjoy the meal. No problem. However, if someone really doesn't want to do something, there's obviously a problem.

The reason is she’s insufferable! 😅

godmum56 · 26/07/2025 15:05

zingally · 26/07/2025 14:39

I think I'd generate a last minute tummy bug/bad back/migraine if I was really that unkeen to go.

what will you do next time?

99bottlesofkombucha · 26/07/2025 15:04

Don’t go, it sounds like it’s expensive for you and you don’t enjoy it, it certainly doesn’t bring you closer to the friends! I wouldn’t enjoy it either because it’s bad parenting and entitled kids ( not for taking a meal out for granted, but for expecting so much of the parents! None of mine are teens and if they expected me to read the desserts to them I’d say clearly you don’t want dessert that much, ok let’s order for the ones who do. Except my 3yo, who can’t read, I think it’s reasonable I help her choose.)

godmum56 · 26/07/2025 15:04

Caggy90 · 26/07/2025 14:54

As much as I would love to do this so often, I think it could come across as a bit rude to say the least.

EG annoying cousin: “Hey, fancy catching up over dinner?”
Me: “No thank you.”

😆

my experience is that if they are going to take offence they will however you phrase it. If you are never going to want to go then "no thanks" is perfectly polite

ScarlettOYara · 26/07/2025 14:57

Caggy90 · 26/07/2025 14:54

As much as I would love to do this so often, I think it could come across as a bit rude to say the least.

EG annoying cousin: “Hey, fancy catching up over dinner?”
Me: “No thank you.”

😆

What's the reason though?
Mostly you'd just put up with minor issues, go along and enjoy the meal. No problem. However, if someone really doesn't want to do something, there's obviously a problem.

Caggy90 · 26/07/2025 14:54

ScarlettOYara · 26/07/2025 10:06

This. People on here always suggest lying, why? Just be honest. It's not relaxing or enjoyable for you, so just say "no thank you".

As much as I would love to do this so often, I think it could come across as a bit rude to say the least.

EG annoying cousin: “Hey, fancy catching up over dinner?”
Me: “No thank you.”

😆

VickyEadieofThigh · 26/07/2025 14:54

Endofyear · 26/07/2025 09:12

If you don't think you'll enjoy going out for a meal with them, don't go. You can tell them why or make an excuse, finances are tight this month for example. Up to you!

OR - hear me out - say "No, I think I'll skip it this time."

zingally · 26/07/2025 14:39

I think I'd generate a last minute tummy bug/bad back/migraine if I was really that unkeen to go.

Illegally18 · 26/07/2025 14:38

BCBird · 26/07/2025 10:33

I can understand your feelings. If u are on a tight budget eating out should be a pleasure. To think you could spend a week's food money on it and yet not enjoy the experience is galling. Im.in the camp of eating out is a treat not a weekly occurrence. We can' t make it this time is what I'd say. Phones at tables is one of my pet hates.

Edited

Me too. I hate it!

ScarlettOYara · 26/07/2025 14:36

Ellmau · 26/07/2025 13:59

Why would she say that she'd love to come? She wouldn't.

To keep the peace? This is family, not a friend who you can just stop being friends with.

She could just say, I don't want to. But she's come on here to get advice because she's not comfortable being blunt...

She doesn't need to be rude. Or even blunt.
Just not lie!
"I can't come because it's just too expensive for me at the moment, sorry"
"I don't really feel comfortable with the teens on their phones all the time, it would be nice if it was a more sociable evening, could we meet up without them?"
Or some such.

Lurkingonmn · 26/07/2025 14:21

You haven't clarified who pays. If you aren't paying for the teenagers and they aren't disturbing you by being quiet on the phones, I'd stop thinking about it. If you aren't looking forward to the meal or can't afford it, maybe you should say you don't want to go?

Moonnstars · 26/07/2025 14:20

I am not sure what the issue is. You sound a little jealous that they eat out regularly and the teens are allowed to pick and choose what they eat.
As others have said unless you are paying for them, this really isn't your issue. I am guessing the teens are at an age where they don't really want to be dragged along for a family meal and find it boring, hence being allowed their phones.
I am guessing you don't see these family members much hence them wanting to arrange to meet up, but if you aren't fussed about seeing them then just say you can't make it and be grateful other family or friends are attending this time so shouldn't be an issue if you don't go.

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