Malnourished starving children in Gaza

The photos that appeared this morning on my news updates of mothers holding their children, dying of starvation and extreme malnutrition in Gaza have absolutely broken my heart. I am not particularly news focused, of course I’ve followed it all but this morning it has stopped me in my tracks and took my breath away. As a mother of a 3yo DS who is sleeping peacefully in his bedroom, whilst we have a fridge full of food downstairs and a life of peace, I feel so sorry that those poor mothers and children are living this hell so undeserved and also so so lucky we have the peace we do…
I don’t really know what the point of my post is; I suppose I’m screaming When Will This End inside and want to tell everyone to not take the freedom and peace we have for granted; use your right to vote and use your privilege to make informed choices that steer the world away from conflict towards peace…

Sending a handhold to all the mothers’ whose lives are not being lived in peace and whose children are suffering 🕊️💔

Run by who though? You fail to answer the most important question. What should become of Hamas?

Like I said, the mothers aren't malnourished.

If your criteria for helping Palestinians is
to eradicate all of a nebulous group of people first then you will never help Palestinians.

But I guess that’s the aim

This is all untrue

The Bibas babies were murdered and strangled by Hamas and their bodies held ransom. No condemnation on the protest marches against the monsters that did that. Not once - never. Why not eh? It's more pertinent to ask WHY are their lives not as worthy as Gazan children to the western pro Gazan supporter. The children who are not getting aid in Gaza are suffering at the hands of Hamas - who are not handing out the aid. Hamas who use money instead of for food for bombs and tunnels. By not speaking out on protests against Hamas I believe that the result is supporting the oppression of Gazan children.

The Bibas babies were murdered and strangled by Hamas and their bodies held ransom. No condemnation on the protest marches against the monsters that did that. Not once - never. Why not eh? It's more pertinent to ask WHY are their lives not as worthy as Gazan children to the western pro Gazan supporter. The children who are not getting aid in Gaza are suffering at the hands of Hamas - who are not handing out the aid. Hamas who use money instead of for food for bombs and tunnels. By not speaking out on protests against Hamas I believe that the result is supporting the oppression of Gazan children.

Hopefully many more of us want Gaza to be free of Hamas. Otherwise what kind of Gaza will there be?

A Gaza where food and medicine can get in.

Why are the bibas babys lives worth the lives 50-100 gazan babies each?

Every death is a tragedy particularly children's deaths. Why are the bibas babies worth a trigger of a genocide while hundreds of thousands of gazan babies should just be taken a collateral damage?

Hopefully many more of us want Gaza to be free of Hamas. Otherwise what kind of Gaza will there be?

Some of us want Gaza to be free of Israel. France is already proposing to accept Palestine as a legitimate and independent state. I think at least 200 British MPs have written a letter asking for the same. Keir has ignored it for now and Trump is here. But it's just a matter of time.

Yes. And it is just luck whether we are born in this country, Palestine or Israel. All babies’ lives have equal value.

You can rationally understand the complexity of the situation but also realise that what is before you is starving children who haven't engaged in any acts of terror, these are human children we are all the human race!

So as evidence you show an interview by Jonathan Sacordoti ( a known Zionist propagandist) and some British Army officer who says nothing ?

Thank you - I’ll watch this in a min. Quick question - what do you mean when you say he ‘knows what he’s talking about’?

Hopefully the clip will help me understand the argument but I feel like anti-Israel (in terms of its government and army) rhetoric or sentiment is fuelled by what Israel is doing and is therefore justifiable (as long as it is based on their actions and not any other factors e.g antisemitism).

Quite. That some, thankfully a minority, of posters aren’t able to distinguish between barbaric adults on both sides of”sides” and innocent children is really distressing.

You can rationally understand the complexity of the situation but also realise that what is before you is starving children who haven't engaged in any acts of terror, these are human children we are all the human race!

Many members of this forum, are able to keep their emotions in check and debate without getting personal. They are also able to separate fact from fiction, and not take everything at face value

Sensible as ever, @Dangermoo

Unfortunately I've never felt this is an especially good place to discuss the matter because the competition as to who's most upset/distraught/tearful rapidly takes over from consideration of some very complex issues

Strange, too, that atrocities elsewhere never attract the same attention, but there you go

Interesting.

The Israeli government voted to boycott Haaretz last year.

Haaretz: An Israeli newspaper with headlines like ‘The Mathematics of Starvation: Why Aid Can’t Fix the Lethal Shortage of Food in Gaza’ and ‘Israelis Are Even Calling Holocaust Survivors Antisemitic’ (Opinion piece). I’m sure they also represent other viewpoints. I respect the leadership of Haaretz for not having tunnel vision, and for showing humanity.

I am not anti-Israel. Frankly, I was taught at school and at church that God promised Israel a land of its own but as an adult reluctantly came to the conclusion that the formation of the Israeli state was dubious morally and legally. However, it exists and we aren’t going back to a time when it didn’t. It’s not happening. However, until the Palestinian grievance is acknowledged and dealt with, I don’t see how Israel can have lasting peace.

Why are the bibas babys lives worth the lives 50-100 gazan babies each?

Every death is a tragedy particularly children's deaths. Why are the bibas babies worth a trigger of a genocide while hundreds of thousands of gazan babies should just be taken a collateral damage?