Malnourished starving children in Gaza

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/aid-trucks-move-egypt-gaza-after-israel-said-it-began-airdrops-2025-07-26/

Can you imagine repercussions for Egypt, from Israel if they did this? They've already also bombed Syria, Lebanon, Iran. Whilst Egypt have formally had control over the rafah border, in reality they open or shut it at the request of the Israeli government.

They can still let in humanitarian aid. Easily. And they choose not to help. Yet you don’t condemn this. Ok.

Starving babies aren't 'poison snakes' and there's no justification for using children searching for aid as target practice. The only people left trying to justify this depravity are swivel eyed loons.

I am blaming Israel because their Gov is killing thousands of Palestinian civilians. I hold Israel accountable for their actions - but I know many like you would like to blame others, literally anyone else for dropping the bombs and shooting innocent civilians - even Egypt now...I was going to say it's laughable but it really isn't - it's completely tragic.
I don't think there is any point in dialogue with people like you. I just hope the other world leaders will soon step up - shame on them for continuing to support Israel.

Your being offended by what I wrote won’t change facts. You can be offended for days and weeks, it is meaningless.
And btw you are being very very naive. A typical westerner with a soft bleeding heart.
If a poisonous snake bites you, you probably want to take it home and take care of it. Though I understand there are people like that…humanity is very diverse.

Good. About time.

I hate to break it to you but in terms of the people you’re actually exposed to, you probably know or hear from a very small number of Muslim people in the world. So your sweeping statements are unfair at best. Social media algorithms mean you’re more likely be exposed to similar thinking individuals so you’re not getting an accurate picture of people’s views across the spectrum. You’re creating a very specific image of the world by relying on the views that you’re being fed. I apologise though if your job or life style means that you know a significant number of the Muslim population well enough to understand their political views and to be able to conclude that they all think as you say they do.

There's talk of children in critical condition being treated in the UK.

Quite. Why is this Egypt’s problem to solve. I suspect the Egyptian authorities know that if they allowed in refugees, those refugees would never be allowed to return.

Why does the UK not take in all of the Palestinian civilians? It has more involvement in the creation of the situation than Egypt does.

I can just imagine how that would go down with the British public. Like a lead balloon. Though Egypt is somehow expected to step up? Nuts.

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-occupying-power-responsibilities-occupied-palestinian-territories

This explains why Israel is responsible rather than Egypt for ensuring the civilaim population of Gaza is fed.

Perhaps because Egypt has not invaded Gaza and is not the occupying power?

This is what I find hard to understand. Why is the world letting Egypt get away with doing nothing? They are immediate neighbours, they can easily help. What does the Egyptian government know that we don’t, why have they built a wall which puts Trumps to shame?

And why are the other Muslim countries not helping? Why do they not get involved and provide food and medical assistance to the poor children? Surly it’s quicker for the Arab governments to get the children out? Saudi, UAE, Qatar are all very rich countries with superior healthcare, why does the world let them get away with doing nothing - it’s appalling behaviour and they should be ashamed and called out on this.

Why are you blaming Israel when there’s a very big border with Egypt? Where is your condemnation of them?

What’s mind blowing is the lack of anger towards the regime who refuses to surrender and end this war and the suffering of their people- Hamas.

My observation is not from the rarefied and anonymous world of Mumsnet but from real life and real people. Social media comments too, which are posted by real people in the real world. We are not living in the 70s anymore when you only knew the opinion of those living close to you and the only news you read was from the tv, radio and the papers.

Of course not. Your opinion that 2bn people are all the same is an incontrovertible truth.

I don’t think I’m ready to accept that all Muslim people hate all Jewish people or all Israelis except some ‘notable exceptions’. For starters, I have no idea how many posters on this thread are Jewish or Muslim and how many have agreed or disagreed with various comments. Extrapolate that to the whole population of Muslim people and I think it’s an opinion based on your own feelings bout Muslim people rather than a well reasoned/evidenced fact. Same goes for the statement re Muslim people and their views on democratic values or freedom of speech. You are grouping together a huge number of people and declaring you know their views when clearly you can’t.

There is a difference between having an issue with Israel due to their current actions or because of the history of the region and their interactions with Gaza vs being antisemitic. It is really important that w recognise when arguments are just thinly veiled antisemitism but it’s also important to appreciate why some people might have zero issues with Jewish people and are very firmly anti-Israel.

Blind support on either side is really stupid and dangerous. The fact that people will support a country that has committed war crimes is extremely troubling. It empowers so many others to do exactly the same thing and if and when that happens, we can’t say a thing because we’ve given it the green light.

Not feeling sorry for any starving child regardless of where they come from is inhumane. Suggesting you know the views of pretty much all Muslim people is bizarre and troubling when it’s so negative.

Your mere words cannot prove me wrong 😐

Totally agree, Goldenbear, and how nice to see your measured comment

We can indeed all appreciate that innocent children are suffering unthinkable circumstances, and I wonder two things: firstly whether their parents are wondering whether their widespread support of Hamas was really such a good idea now they're seeing the cost, and secondly why it's only these particular children the focus is on

As for the concept of nobody else getting away with atrocities with little condemnation from the west, @Robin67 ... China?
I've mentioned many a time except nobody seems interested - that their filthy regime is effectively colonising huge swathes of Africa, and that the people will stand little chance of finding breast-beating guilt when they expect debt relief, but of course China owns so much that perhaps our leaders can't risk saying anything

God I love Hadley Freeman.

@Featherruffler

Speaking about blind support….In my observation not a single Muslim in the world ever sides with Israel or Jews in any matter.

That's quite the generalisation considering there are 2bn Muslims.

With some notable exceptions like Mosab Hassan Yousef, Ayan Hirsi Ali et al, they are all staunch antisemites.

Your bigotry is clear to see.

Muslims who live far away from Israel, who have no business with Palestinians whatsoever, stand with them just because they share the same religion. Moroccans, Libyans, Saudis etc..all stand by their brethren. I find it daft and infuriating. This is the very definition of racism and the blind support you are talking about.

And Jewish people worldwide who support Israel? Christians who support Christians? They're all racist?

Yet they bawl their eyes out if Westerners show the same support to Israel. Double standards much?

Sure. I suppose part of that could be due to a current genocide in Palestine and ethnic cleansing in China of Muslims. I'm sure some can't help feeling persecuted.

Not one of them defend democratic values, freedom of speech or anything that Israel stands for. They enjoy these privileges in the West, but interestingly enough express sympathy for a group that denies these very privileges from its own people. Double standards?

You appear to be homogonising 2bn people which isn't very bright.

I bet my royal ass that no Muslim Mumsnetters ever support Israel or have expressed deep condolences for the October 7 attacks. But they want the West to feel sorry for their starving children. Double standards?

That's because you appear to have a dehumanising attitude towards Muslims, see them as a homogenous mass and don't attribute them with humanitarian values. However, dehumanisation goes part and parcel with genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Not sure if people will be able to read it but Hayley Freedman wrote a good article about it in the Times.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/b22a0061-3998-4610-9e16-571034071bd4?shareToken=6cdfcda3e70200ba88fa42a27f516811

The Israeli government have an obligation to make sure the people in Gaza have food.

Obviously Hamas are utterly appalling, killing all those young people at the music festival and all the other things they have done.

But Gazan babies have nothing to do with Hama's behaviour. As the occupying miltary power Israel are reponsible for the welfare of the civilian population.

They can't wash their hands of it and say Hamas might get some of the food. That's a potential side effect that they need to address. It doesn't absolve them of responsibility.

I suppose some people have enough humanity to feel sorry for starving children without any prompt by an external actor.

Where are you getting your information from? Please share your sources.