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babyproblems · 2025-07-26T05:42:58+00:00

The photos that appeared this morning on my news updates of mothers holding their children, dying of starvation and extreme malnutrition in Gaza have absolutely broken my heart. I am not particularly news focused, of course I’ve followed it all but this morning it has stopped me in my tracks and took my breath away. As a mother of a 3yo DS who is sleeping peacefully in his bedroom, whilst we have a fridge full of food downstairs and a life of peace, I feel so sorry that those poor mothers and children are living this hell so undeserved and also so so lucky we have the peace we do… I don’t really know what the point of my post is; I suppose I’m screaming When Will This End inside and want to tell everyone to not take the freedom and peace we have for granted; use your right to vote and use your privilege to make informed choices that steer the world away from conflict towards peace… Sending a handhold to all the mothers’ whose lives are not being lived in peace and whose children are suffering 🕊️💔

MiloMinderbinder925 · 27/07/2025 19:18

runningpram · 27/07/2025 19:15

What can we do to help? I am pro Israel and was appalled by 7/10 but starving kids is horrendous

https://donate.redcross.org.uk/appeal/gaza-crisis-appeal

I've worked for a lot of NGOs and the Red Cross is probably the best. You can't go wrong donating.

Gaza Crisis Appeal

Donate now to the Gaza Crisis Appeal and help provide vital aid to people affected by the devastating humanitarian crisis and threat of famine.

https://donate.redcross.org.uk/appeal/gaza-crisis-appeal

runningpram · 27/07/2025 19:15

What can we do to help? I am pro Israel and was appalled by 7/10 but starving kids is horrendous

PinkBobby · 27/07/2025 19:11

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:57

The common tone may also be because a significant chunk of them (not all) are mercenaries paid to post pro-Israel content and thus sing from the same hymn sheet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896.amp

From 2013, by the by.

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If any of them are paid to post pro-Israel content, I really feel like they need some more training or some sort of appraisal at this point because so many of the points I’ve seen so far lack any real evidence and/or logic. And then every time I or someone else asks for evidence or sources or reasoning, so many (not all!) seem to disappear or ignore the question completely or start name calling. Which is fine to be fair as it just supports the idea that their views are coming from a place of hatred and not from reason. My feedback would be it is really hard to ‘switch sides’ if I don’t get an evidence based, logical argument to sway my opinion.

Dideon · 27/07/2025 19:01

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:57

The common tone may also be because a significant chunk of them (not all) are mercenaries paid to post pro-Israel content and thus sing from the same hymn sheet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896.amp

From 2013, by the by.

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I’d rather think that than God forbid they
are mothers !

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:57

Dideon · 27/07/2025 18:55

I believe so too . I have had to switch off from them. There is a common tone and arrogance.

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The common tone may also be because a significant chunk of them (not all) are mercenaries paid to post pro-Israel content and thus sing from the same hymn sheet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896.amp

From 2013, by the by.

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Dideon · 27/07/2025 18:55

custardlover · 27/07/2025 18:48

I believe that some on this thread are simply ragebait trolls (I don’t mean you @ThisNattyTurtle) and we need to ignore them to protect our own mental health (and souls!) and don’t allow them to distract us with their deflection, deceit and what I can only charitably assume is their own brainwashing.

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I believe so too . I have had to switch off from them. There is a common tone and arrogance.

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:55

Dr. Mark Perlmutter, Jewish-American orthopaedic surgeon and former President of the American Association of Neurological and Orthopaedic surgeons, served in Gaza with his gold star of David round his neck. His testimony is absolutely heartbreaking and he writes he saw "distinct signs of genocide" and he saw many many children deliberately shot by Israeli soldiers in the head and chest.

https://www.democracynow.org/2024/4/11/surgeons_in_gaza

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custardlover · 27/07/2025 18:48

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:35

....aaaand the UN and Oxfam and Save the Children and Medicins Sans Frontiers (MSF) one of the most highly respected medical NGOs in the world with huge experience of war (and of genocide).
Oh and, Prof Omer Bartov and Prof Amos Goldstein, Israeli professors of Holocaust and genocide studies. And Dame Helena Kennedy.

The former head of Human Rights Watch at the time of its excellent report into Israeli apartheid (before Oct. 7th and before the genocide report) is Kenneth Roth a Harvard educated Jewish-American human rights lawyer whose father fled the Nazis.

Please do share with us your superior qualifications that allow you to sneer at Human Rights Watch and Amnesty?

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I believe that some on this thread are simply ragebait trolls (I don’t mean you @ThisNattyTurtle) and we need to ignore them to protect our own mental health (and souls!) and don’t allow them to distract us with their deflection, deceit and what I can only charitably assume is their own brainwashing.

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:47

Meanwhile international doctors including Oxford surgeon Professor Nick Maynard, Plastic surgeon Ms. Victoria Rose, Orthopedic surgeon Graeme Groome, have witnessed mass influx of victims shot or bombed at the Israeli operated "aid distribution sites" where food boxes are placed on the ground and the crowd of starving people get 10 min to try to grab something.
Prof. Maynard described how the Israeli soldiers targeted different body parts on different days - one day it was a stream of young boys shot in the testicles. Let that really sink in.

His account is corroborated by whistleblower former US Green Beret commander Anthony Aguilar who was there as a US mercenary and left after seeing soldiers shooting civilians who tried to get food.

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:41

MovingBird123 · 27/07/2025 18:26

Wow, I clicked on this thread fully expecting it to be an orgy of hatred. I genuinely didn't expect a sensible response on the first page. Thank you!!!

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The post you replied to is completely at odd with what the experts on the ground have said. The UN, Oxfam, Save the Children, MSF and 97 other international NGOs have written a letter stating that Israel is manufacturing mas starvation, Israel is preventing them moving food into or around the territories. See link below.

www.savethechildren.net/news/mass-starvation-spreads-across-gaza-more-100-ngos-make-urgent-plea-allow-life-saving-aid

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 18:35

MovingBird123 · 27/07/2025 18:27

Human Rights Watch and Amnesty... 😂😂

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....aaaand the UN and Oxfam and Save the Children and Medicins Sans Frontiers (MSF) one of the most highly respected medical NGOs in the world with huge experience of war (and of genocide).
Oh and, Prof Omer Bartov and Prof Amos Goldstein, Israeli professors of Holocaust and genocide studies. And Dame Helena Kennedy.

The former head of Human Rights Watch at the time of its excellent report into Israeli apartheid (before Oct. 7th and before the genocide report) is Kenneth Roth a Harvard educated Jewish-American human rights lawyer whose father fled the Nazis.

Please do share with us your superior qualifications that allow you to sneer at Human Rights Watch and Amnesty?

MovingBird123 · 27/07/2025 18:27

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 17:53

Take your information from reliable sources - the UN, WHO, WFP, MSF, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty international. They will all tell you that Israel is carrying out a genocide - 3 of the 4 concluded that in Dec 2024. Look it up.
Oxfam and 99 other NGOs have signed a letter accusing Israel of manufacturing starvation in Gaza as a tool of war.

The conflicting information comes from Israel. Even Human Rights NGOs inside Israel are saying very similar things.

Saying 'oh I don't know who to believe' - well it's very similar to the MMR vaccine sceptics. Do you believe dedicated teams of experts who have written exhaustive studies on the topic and who have been on the ground during the genocide (eg MSF) or do you believe a man wanted for fraud who has stalled his court date by committing genocide? (Netanyahu).
The UK govt is involved in this and involving our armed forces in this, we have been listed among the complicit countries by the UN. So we have a duty to know. And a duty to tell our elected government they don't get to help starve children to death on our name.

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Human Rights Watch and Amnesty... 😂😂

MovingBird123 · 27/07/2025 18:26

Letstheriveranswer · 26/07/2025 08:44

The food is actually sitting inside Gaza but the problem seems to be in distributing it...people are desperate and start looting, it's not safe for lorry drivers to drive it in, Hamas attacks people trying to get aid and if anyone gets shot in the violent chaos Israel get blamed, so they want the UN to take responsibility for getting it to distribution centres but the UN are refusing.

Hamas are obstructing everything because they want to deliver it but then they steal it and sell it at high prices.

There are plenty of videos from inside Gaza of people clearly stating that Hamas are fully responsible for their misery.

It's very complex and the situation is catastrophic.

Having said that, there has been so much use of AI imaging and pictures from other conflicts and attributed to being pics from Gaza, that it's hard to know what is and isn't truth. Plus all the previous times we were told there was famine, and there wasn't, and even the UN finally admitted there wasn't. When the hostages were released every single man (not many women were out) in the Gazan crowds looked very well fed, clean and with fresh haircuts - and that was after we were previously told there was famine.

I hope it all ends soon.

Meanwhile I will wait for this thread to go down the inevitable route....

Wow, I clicked on this thread fully expecting it to be an orgy of hatred. I genuinely didn't expect a sensible response on the first page. Thank you!!!

Barnbrack · 27/07/2025 18:08

millymollymoomoo · 27/07/2025 15:16

Don’t believe everything you see !

hamas Started this
habas are not laying down arms or releasing hostages. And are stealing aid. The un are preventing aid deliveries and some tip in officials on the ground are now being removed due to working for hamas

these are terrorists who murder their own people, use their children as shields, have stolen billions in foreign aid and teach their children all about marrying themselves and hate.

stand with Isreal

If I was in Gaza and Israel after all they have done said 'no I just give up all weapons and we'll treat all the people here as human again...' I'm not convinced I'd rush to believe them.

Barnbrack · 27/07/2025 18:07

OrangeHearted · 26/07/2025 21:04

The Bibas babies were murdered and strangled by Hamas and their bodies held ransom. No condemnation on the protest marches against the monsters that did that. Not once - never. Why not eh? It's more pertinent to ask WHY are their lives not as worthy as Gazan children to the western pro Gazan supporter. The children who are not getting aid in Gaza are suffering at the hands of Hamas - who are not handing out the aid. Hamas who use money instead of for food for bombs and tunnels. By not speaking out on protests against Hamas I believe that the result is supporting the oppression of Gazan children.

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The children in Gaza are struggling due to a conflict in numbers 50-100 times as high as the number killed by Hamas in Israel almost 2 years ago.

There were no protests early on either but as the conflict continues, as hundreds of thousands due, as Israel refuses to let up and gazans are dehumanized by the Israeli stance as Israel admits trying to wipe them out and deliberate starvation. Now there are protests, now the world is looking on and saying this may not directly involve me and it may be far away but this absolute horror and historical abomination needs to stop.

That's why there are protests.

But you know that, don't you? You understand the false equivalency.

ThisNattyTurtle · 27/07/2025 17:53

Morgenrot25 · 26/07/2025 07:42

It's absolutely horrific, but I force myself to detach myself from it because I do feel powerless to actually do anything.
There's also so much misinformation out there, regarding who is doing what or who isn't doing what. Does anyone actually know any genuine way of actually helping?

Take your information from reliable sources - the UN, WHO, WFP, MSF, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty international. They will all tell you that Israel is carrying out a genocide - 3 of the 4 concluded that in Dec 2024. Look it up.
Oxfam and 99 other NGOs have signed a letter accusing Israel of manufacturing starvation in Gaza as a tool of war.

The conflicting information comes from Israel. Even Human Rights NGOs inside Israel are saying very similar things.

Saying 'oh I don't know who to believe' - well it's very similar to the MMR vaccine sceptics. Do you believe dedicated teams of experts who have written exhaustive studies on the topic and who have been on the ground during the genocide (eg MSF) or do you believe a man wanted for fraud who has stalled his court date by committing genocide? (Netanyahu).
The UK govt is involved in this and involving our armed forces in this, we have been listed among the complicit countries by the UN. So we have a duty to know. And a duty to tell our elected government they don't get to help starve children to death on our name.

PinkBobby · 27/07/2025 17:46

BanditLamp · 27/07/2025 11:17

Not sure if people will be able to read it but Hayley Freedman wrote a good article about it in the Times.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/b22a0061-3998-4610-9e16-571034071bd4?shareToken=6cdfcda3e70200ba88fa42a27f516811

The Israeli government have an obligation to make sure the people in Gaza have food.

Obviously Hamas are utterly appalling, killing all those young people at the music festival and all the other things they have done.

But Gazan babies have nothing to do with Hama's behaviour. As the occupying miltary power Israel are reponsible for the welfare of the civilian population.

They can't wash their hands of it and say Hamas might get some of the food. That's a potential side effect that they need to address. It doesn't absolve them of responsibility.

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Thank you for sharing - this was very interesting to read.

PunctuateTheGarden · 27/07/2025 17:11

millymollymoomoo · 27/07/2025 15:16

Don’t believe everything you see !

hamas Started this
habas are not laying down arms or releasing hostages. And are stealing aid. The un are preventing aid deliveries and some tip in officials on the ground are now being removed due to working for hamas

these are terrorists who murder their own people, use their children as shields, have stolen billions in foreign aid and teach their children all about marrying themselves and hate.

stand with Isreal

The conflict between Israel and Palestine started a long time before Hamas existed.

mellymoop · 27/07/2025 15:36

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 27/07/2025 14:34

Can you imagine repercussions for Egypt, from Israel if they did this? They've already also bombed Syria, Lebanon, Iran. Whilst Egypt have formally had control over the rafah border, in reality they open or shut it at the request of the Israeli government.

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You’re comparing apples and oranges. Israel didn’t attack these countries because they gave humanitarian aid to Gaza.

And Egypt has a massive border because THEY want it, not because Israel demands it.

PinkBobby · 27/07/2025 15:33

millymollymoomoo · 27/07/2025 15:16

Don’t believe everything you see !

hamas Started this
habas are not laying down arms or releasing hostages. And are stealing aid. The un are preventing aid deliveries and some tip in officials on the ground are now being removed due to working for hamas

these are terrorists who murder their own people, use their children as shields, have stolen billions in foreign aid and teach their children all about marrying themselves and hate.

stand with Isreal

Using children as shields is abhorrent. So is choosing to shoot/bomb those shields.

Dideon · 27/07/2025 15:24

WhatMothersDo22 · 27/07/2025 15:19

It’s broken my heart for the past 600 days. Nothing to offer except to say I feel the same 😞. One day history will look back on this in utter shame. The only thing I’ve found helpful is finding others in my community who feel similarly and taking what small actions we can. I just can’t believe this is happening again, in the 21st century and basically enabled and sponsored by the West. It’s sick.

I feel exactly the same .

WhatMothersDo22 · 27/07/2025 15:19

It’s broken my heart for the past 600 days. Nothing to offer except to say I feel the same 😞. One day history will look back on this in utter shame. The only thing I’ve found helpful is finding others in my community who feel similarly and taking what small actions we can. I just can’t believe this is happening again, in the 21st century and basically enabled and sponsored by the West. It’s sick.

millymollymoomoo · 27/07/2025 15:16

Don’t believe everything you see !

hamas Started this
habas are not laying down arms or releasing hostages. And are stealing aid. The un are preventing aid deliveries and some tip in officials on the ground are now being removed due to working for hamas

these are terrorists who murder their own people, use their children as shields, have stolen billions in foreign aid and teach their children all about marrying themselves and hate.

stand with Isreal

PinkBobby · 27/07/2025 15:08

Featherruffler · 27/07/2025 13:58

Your being offended by what I wrote won’t change facts. You can be offended for days and weeks, it is meaningless.
And btw you are being very very naive. A typical westerner with a soft bleeding heart.
If a poisonous snake bites you, you probably want to take it home and take care of it. Though I understand there are people like that…humanity is very diverse.

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I’m not offended. Just engaging in debate and explaining that you are presenting opinion as fact. You cannot speak to the views of millions as if they are one homogeneous group and claim you know how they all think. It is nonsensical.

I can see you think you have me all figured out despite knowing very little about me, including my heritage or culture. You are only proving my point that you are speaking about people about whom you know nothing and it weakens your argument.

Dideon · 27/07/2025 14:59

PunctuateTheGarden · 27/07/2025 14:08

I am blaming Israel because their Gov is killing thousands of Palestinian civilians. I hold Israel accountable for their actions - but I know many like you would like to blame others, literally anyone else for dropping the bombs and shooting innocent civilians - even Egypt now...I was going to say it's laughable but it really isn't - it's completely tragic.
I don't think there is any point in dialogue with people like you. I just hope the other world leaders will soon step up - shame on them for continuing to support Israel.

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That is my hope too. For the governments who are in the pocket of the Israeli lobbyists it will take longer but I think (or just hope) the tides are turning. I have been really angry reading the posters who justify, deny or simply ignore the obvious wrongdoings of the Israeli government but now I’m just numb to their comments.