Malnourished starving children in Gaza

Well they are having a good go at it and the hardliners in the Israeli government make no qualms about it . If they get their way I’m not sure what the future will be for Isreal.

The food is actually sitting inside Gaza but the problem seems to be in distributing it...people are desperate and start looting, it's not safe for lorry drivers to drive it in, Hamas attacks people trying to get aid and if anyone gets shot in the violent chaos Israel get blamed, so they want the UN to take responsibility for getting it to distribution centres but the UN are refusing.

Hamas are obstructing everything because they want to deliver it but then they steal it and sell it at high prices.

There are plenty of videos from inside Gaza of people clearly stating that Hamas are fully responsible for their misery.

It's very complex and the situation is catastrophic.

Having said that, there has been so much use of AI imaging and pictures from other conflicts and attributed to being pics from Gaza, that it's hard to know what is and isn't truth. Plus all the previous times we were told there was famine, and there wasn't, and even the UN finally admitted there wasn't. When the hostages were released every single man (not many women were out) in the Gazan crowds looked very well fed, clean and with fresh haircuts - and that was after we were previously told there was famine.

I hope it all ends soon.

Meanwhile I will wait for this thread to go down the inevitable route....

What genocide? There are 2 million Palestinians inside Gaza. Do you really think that Israel would blatantly starve all of them to death in front of the whole world and earn their condemnation?
I know you will say yes to that question.

What genocide? There are 2 million Palestinians inside Gaza. Do you really think that Israel would blatantly starve all of them to death in front of the whole world and earn their condemnation?
I know you will say yes to that question.

What genocide? There are 2 million Palestinians inside Gaza. Do you really think that Israel would blatantly starve all of them to death in front of the whole world and earn their condemnation?
I know you will say yes to that question.

When the Genocide is complete there won’t be anyone to negotiate with. A neat solution for Israel’s battle over Palestinian territory.

Yes, time for a change, and guess who the change is up to?
Hamas could end all this in a minute. Release the hostages, then sit down and negotiate with Israel. But they don’t have the negotiating skills or the necessary intelligence to do it.

Yes, time for a change, and guess who the change is up to?
Hamas could end all this in a minute. Release the hostages, then sit down and negotiate with Israel. But they don’t have the negotiating skills or the necessary intelligence to do it.

I really don't need to. Your complete lack of historical knowledge and your inability to post any credible sources or references to back your statements is doing all the work for me. Pray do continue.

Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and manufacturing mass starvation, according to all the serious NGOs with any connection or experience. The same NGOs used by the BBC to criticise Russia or Iran or North Korea or any other despotic tyrannical regime. The writing is absolutely on the wall. Time for a change.

Nice try.
Try harder.

The other countries that were created in the 20th century did not involve mass killing and forced displacement of 3/4 of the indigenous people living on that land, to make way for foreigners from Europe who wanted to establish a theocracy based on the superiority of one religion.

Modern terrorism in the Middle East started with the Jewish militias' campaign against the British. They bombed the King David hotel, kidnapped British soldiers hanged them from trees and booby trapped their dead bodies to maim the rescuers (Sergeants affair), and hid weapons and fighters in schools, clinics and synagogues (Prof. Neve Gordon, "On Human Shields".) there are blue plaques in Israel commemorating this. Churchill convened an emergency cabinet meeting to discuss the "problem of terrorism in Palestine" - he was talking about the Jewish militias Lethi, the Haganah, and the Irgun. The late Queen didn't let Israelis into the palace because she still viewed them as terrorists.
An Israeli assassinated Shimon Peres, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, because he offered real terms for a state to the Palestinians. No Israeli leader has dared do that since.
An Israeli went into a mosque and opened a machine gun firing indiscriminately from behind at rows of men and boys kneeling in prayer.

Your ignorance is showing.

Because emotions will lead you nowhere in the world of politics, especially when it comes to wars and conflicts. You can’t base political decisions purely on emotions. If you act emotional all the time in the world of politics, you might create more chaos and problems than you started with in the first place.
The Palestinian people brought certain decisions in the past and I’m afraid now they are reaping the consequences of those decisions. Voting for the wrong leaders, throwing back every offer of a peaceful co-existence back into Israel’s face, terrorist acts etc…
They (and many other Muslim countries) don’t want to acknowledge Israel’s legitimacy ever since it was created. But if you think about it, many countries in the Middle East were also created in the first half of then 20th century, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria et al. So then based on the same principle, they shouldn’t have legitimacy either.
Btw, show me another group of people who want to solve their problems with acts of terrorism. Putting on a suicide west and blowing themselves up, flying planes into buildings, driving into crowds, going into kindergarten and stabbing the children, terrorising music festivals etc..

You asked which other group solves their problems with act of terrorism and I said West Bank settlers.

West Bank settlers ?

Because emotions will lead you nowhere in the world of politics, especially when it comes to wars and conflicts. You can’t base political decisions purely on emotions. If you act emotional all the time in the world of politics, you might create more chaos and problems than you started with in the first place.
The Palestinian people brought certain decisions in the past and I’m afraid now they are reaping the consequences of those decisions. Voting for the wrong leaders, throwing back every offer of a peaceful co-existence back into Israel’s face, terrorist acts etc…
They (and many other Muslim countries) don’t want to acknowledge Israel’s legitimacy ever since it was created. But if you think about it, many countries in the Middle East were also created in the first half of then 20th century, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria et al. So then based on the same principle, they shouldn’t have legitimacy either.
Btw, show me another group of people who want to solve their problems with acts of terrorism. Putting on a suicide west and blowing themselves up, flying planes into buildings, driving into crowds, going into kindergarten and stabbing the children, terrorising music festivals etc..

I don't understand the boasts about having a non-emotional debate - how can you be human and discuss the deaths of thousands of people and not be emotional about it. The genocide deniers on this thread are a disgrace to humanity, let's hope the world leader catch up soon. Kier Starmner has lost my vote- his lack of moral leadership on this issue is shameful.

I think many of the so-called pro Israel posters, are succeeding in turning more and more people against Israel.

I think many of the so-called pro Israel posters, are succeeding in turning more and more people against Israel.