Is my best friend racist?

I’m amused and bemused in equal measure at how the “Left” can’t seem to form any coherent arguments against reasoned expressions of concern about unrestricted immigration or other issues they disagree with.

All they seem to be able to do is respond with nasty insults… time after time after time… though at least being called Gregg Wallace isn’t quite as absurd as being told I only like Trump (I don’t like him btw) because he’s a sexual predator 🤣. It’s absolutely pathetic…

This thread has made me wonder whether the Left is driven more by a hateful superiority complex than anything else. I can only guess that it’s because they realise that their power (a power that seemed invincible only five or so years ago as the dominant force in the media, entertainment, political and corporate worlds) is crumbling beneath them, and so they descend into sneering contempt for anyone who dares to cross them.

Yes it’s a tactic on here but may be losing ground.

I’m amused and bemused in equal measure at how the “Left” can’t seem to form any coherent arguments against reasoned expressions of concern about unrestricted immigration or other issues they disagree with.

All they seem to be able to do is respond with nasty insults… time after time after time… though at least being called Gregg Wallace isn’t quite as absurd as being told I only like Trump (I don’t like him btw) because he’s a sexual predator 🤣. It’s absolutely pathetic…

This thread has made me wonder whether the Left is driven more by a hateful superiority complex than anything else. I can only guess that it’s because they realise that their power (a power that seemed invincible only five or so years ago as the dominant force in the media, entertainment, political and corporate worlds) is crumbling beneath them, and so they descend into sneering contempt for anyone who dares to cross them.

Left used to be synonymous with liberal and progressive, but what it has become is as repugnant as the original definition of far-right (not the current usage which calls anyone who’s even vaguely conservative, “far” right). It’s now the radical left which sneers on any idea that they don’t espouse and attempt to dispose of it through false superiority or a desire to appear “cool” - I don’t know which. But either way, an unwillingness to enter into any discourse on topics such as immigration, integration and the problems of multi-culturalism will not make the problems go away. Eventually, they will arrive at the doorsteps of those who deign it beneath them to discuss it.

Left used to be synonymous with liberal and progressive, but what it has become is as repugnant as the original definition of far-right (not the current usage which calls anyone who’s even vaguely conservative, “far” right). It’s now the radical left which sneers on any idea that they don’t espouse and attempt to dispose of it through false superiority or a desire to appear “cool” - I don’t know which. But either way, an unwillingness to enter into any discourse on topics such as immigration, integration and the problems of multi-culturalism will not make the problems go away. Eventually, they will arrive at the doorsteps of those who deign it beneath them to discuss it.

I’m amused and bemused in equal measure at how the “Left” can’t seem to form any coherent arguments against reasoned expressions of concern about unrestricted immigration or other issues they disagree with.

All they seem to be able to do is respond with nasty insults… time after time after time… though at least being called Gregg Wallace isn’t quite as absurd as being told I only like Trump (I don’t like him btw) because he’s a sexual predator 🤣. It’s absolutely pathetic…

This thread has made me wonder whether the Left is driven more by a hateful superiority complex than anything else. I can only guess that it’s because they realise that their power (a power that seemed invincible only five or so years ago as the dominant force in the media, entertainment, political and corporate worlds) is crumbling beneath them, and so they descend into sneering contempt for anyone who dares to cross them.

No, central Canada.

Is that Australia? I think the largest percentage of immigrants are now from India in Australia.

There are a lot of people in Northern Ireland and Wales where Irish and Welsh is their first language. So what? I love hearing different languages being spoken in this country.

That you Gregg?

Yes, I think middle-aged women are less effected by the surge in migration and its effects on society, especially for those groups that come from very different cultures.

They often have well-established jobs, are on the property ladder, and are at lower risk of sexual assault than a younger woman/girl…

For those brought up assuming that everyone starts off on the Left, it’s quite shocking how right-wing the younger generation is - there’s a reason for this!

Rebelling against the status-quo isn’t being a Che Guevara t-shirt wearing Trotskyite any longer, it’s going to mass on Sunday (incredibly, church attendance of 18-24 year old men has increased 4-fold
since 2018!). I don’t think many middle-aged lefties have a clue about this trend, still less the reasons for it…

It depends what she means.
Of course everyone has to obey the law of the country they live in but they don't have to wear the same clothes, eat the same food, or celebrate the same festivals.
Many countries including the UK have embraced other cultures, food and language and developed .
And I think we are a lot richer for it.

My cousin's city, no in the UK, has had an enormous level of immigration over the past 10 years.Currently about half the population were not born in that country. Most are Indian.

There have been all kinds of previously unheard of incidents of sectarian violence and also discrimination in workplaces, because of people bringing their fights and prejudices with them from home. Stuff that has never been seen there in 100 years.

Some diversity can work well, but not all groups are equally able to integrate, and huge numbers like 50% can change a place significantly.

A lot of people are being radicalised and tend to left far right as they age, I wonder if it is not the selfishness of "I had my good time but now lets close the borders and get rid of them migrants", would be fascinating to see if someone already studies why that it.

I don't think so - if you look at any of the images of left-leaning demonstrations, the backbone tend to be middle-aged women.

I do think that events have genuinely altered people's views over the last few years. I know the first crack in my staunchly left-wing viewpoint came due to the trans issue. And once you feel at odds about one issue, the other questions do creep in.

I think that many of the middle-aged leftie protesters are the ones who are closed minded, refusing to alter their viewpoints even as the situation changes drastically. For some people it's too painful, I think.

But I think these things are extreme. I have many Muslim friends and none were made to sleep with their uncles. Many would find it as horrifying as people here did. The fact someone insists that something is the norm in their culture does not mean it so, and it's pretty daft to stretch one person's warped thinking onto the whole community.
It's like if I saw a bad woman driver and said all women drivers are crap.

That sentence pretty much captures the dismissive attitude.
Disagree with me and your are not only wrong but so wrong that you need somehow saving (by what/ whom- you?).
No attempt to listen or reasonably debate.

A lot of people are being radicalised and tend to left far right as they age, I wonder if it is not the selfishness of "I had my good time but now lets close the borders and get rid of them migrants", would be fascinating to see if someone already studies why that it.

I don't think so - if you look at any of the images of left-leaning demonstrations, the backbone tend to be middle-aged women.

I do think that events have genuinely altered people's views over the last few years. I know the first crack in my staunchly left-wing viewpoint came due to the trans issue. And once you feel at odds about one issue, the other questions do creep in.

I think that many of the middle-aged leftie protesters are the ones who are closed minded, refusing to alter their viewpoints even as the situation changes drastically. For some people it's too painful, I think.

You are already captured. Beyond saving. Fill your boots.

Spot on.

I’m another former card-carrying, Guardian reading pinko liberal leftie who has been mugged by reality. I just find it impossible to continue pretending that ‘diversity is our strength’ etc etc when I see the evidence of appalling abusive misogyny, patriarchal repression, refusal to integrate & sectarian religious divisions with my own eyes every time I go into my local city.

I agree with her and think you’re naive.

There is a thread on here currently from a worried Mum who has an ex husband from the Middle East who lets their six year old daughter sleep in the same bed as her uncle (the Father’s brother). The Father insists it’s the norm in his culture and yet every poster on here told the Mum to inform social services. That’s case in point isn’t it?

There are a lot of people in Northern Ireland and Wales where Irish and Welsh is their first language. So what? I love hearing different languages being spoken in this country.