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To be frustrated we’ve come all this way for his daughter just to cancel

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Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:04

I have been with my partner for 5 years, we have a very good relationship. He is Russian, he has 2 children, a son and a daughter who are 24 and 26. His daughter lives in Lisbon with her boyfriend, his son lives in Moscow, we live in London.

We don’t see his children very much, he goes to see his son about once a year but I don’t feel comfortable visiting Russia so haven’t gone with him (first it was Covid now it’s the war and travel difficulties). He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022, when she visited London and spent exactly one hour with him.

Now I don’t know if it’s cultural or if they just aren’t close but he seems to be unworried about it and I’m not going to push, he messages them both often.

Any way this year we planed our family holiday around his daughter, so are spending this week in Lisbon, we told her the dates 9 months ago, she said she would be around and could meet for dinner. We were meant to be seeing her tonight but she’s cancelled, saying something has come up, we have asked to reschedule for tomorrow or Sunday as we come home on Monday but she has said she can’t as she is flying to Rome to see friends tomorrow afternoon.

Realistically we wouldn’t have come to Lisbon if it weren’t for his daughter, lovely city but we tend ti prefer more rural holidays. He still sends her money every month and he seems genuinely hurt that she isn’t making any effort to see him.

She seems to avoid us and we don’t know why, like last year she went home to Moscow for a week but when my partner said he would go too she lied and said she had changed her mind but then her brother told him afterwords that she had come home.

My partner claims he doesn’t know why she is doing this and that they were close and they still message often.

AIBU to be really frustrated about this? I wouldn’t mind if she had just told us she didn’t want to see us but we have come all this way, gave her plenty of notice and now she cancels?

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Sunholidays · 25/07/2025 13:56

MumWifeOther · 25/07/2025 13:53

its none of your business really

It somehow is given that the OP has just spent her holidays in a place she didn't really want to go to, just to see the daughter.

Sunholidays · 25/07/2025 13:55

What does she do for a living? Could it be something that she's trying to hide? or could she be living with a boyfriend that she knows her dad would not approve?

MumWifeOther · 25/07/2025 13:53

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:04

I have been with my partner for 5 years, we have a very good relationship. He is Russian, he has 2 children, a son and a daughter who are 24 and 26. His daughter lives in Lisbon with her boyfriend, his son lives in Moscow, we live in London.

We don’t see his children very much, he goes to see his son about once a year but I don’t feel comfortable visiting Russia so haven’t gone with him (first it was Covid now it’s the war and travel difficulties). He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022, when she visited London and spent exactly one hour with him.

Now I don’t know if it’s cultural or if they just aren’t close but he seems to be unworried about it and I’m not going to push, he messages them both often.

Any way this year we planed our family holiday around his daughter, so are spending this week in Lisbon, we told her the dates 9 months ago, she said she would be around and could meet for dinner. We were meant to be seeing her tonight but she’s cancelled, saying something has come up, we have asked to reschedule for tomorrow or Sunday as we come home on Monday but she has said she can’t as she is flying to Rome to see friends tomorrow afternoon.

Realistically we wouldn’t have come to Lisbon if it weren’t for his daughter, lovely city but we tend ti prefer more rural holidays. He still sends her money every month and he seems genuinely hurt that she isn’t making any effort to see him.

She seems to avoid us and we don’t know why, like last year she went home to Moscow for a week but when my partner said he would go too she lied and said she had changed her mind but then her brother told him afterwords that she had come home.

My partner claims he doesn’t know why she is doing this and that they were close and they still message often.

AIBU to be really frustrated about this? I wouldn’t mind if she had just told us she didn’t want to see us but we have come all this way, gave her plenty of notice and now she cancels?

its none of your business really

Samiloff · 25/07/2025 13:52

She is rude and ungrateful. If she doesn’t want to see him/you that’s up to her, but she should have the decency not to mislead you both. I don’t know why he is still supporting her financially. She’s an adult.

PassingStranger · 25/07/2025 13:45

2024onwardsandup · 25/07/2025 13:05

Sounds like he wasn’t a good father

How about he was and he's just been unlucky and gor shitty kids.
Unless you know, you can't assume it's his fault.

DaisyChain505 · 25/07/2025 13:43

Not all families are close and considering they all live in different countries this is shown.

He probably sends her money as a way of easing his guilt for not being the best father to his children.

Who knows what their childhood was like and there’s probably a lot of underlying and historical feelings and dynamics at play.

Blueblell · 25/07/2025 13:40

Sounds like she doesn’t want to be in the same place as him for some reason?

RantzNotBantz · 25/07/2025 13:34

Can his Ds shed any light?

As he seems to have a better relationship with his Dad and was honest that she had been to Moscow.

Could there be a political reason (is she a spy? Is he? Are either being watched?) Could she have taken a radical decision that she does not feel her DD would support (are the messages via FaceTime? Could she have transitioned/ adopted full Islamic dress / got a face full of tattoos and piercings), did he object to her sexuality or a choice of partner?

Anyway, obviously YANBU to feel very frustrated by this and if DP has any idea or suspicion as to what may be going on then he owes it to you to be honest.

If not, fair enough, support him and maybe do a bit of digging.

Have you looked at her social media, linked in , work website and SM, her friends SM etc.

I’d keep a fluttering red flag in my peripheral vision.

Namenamchange · 25/07/2025 13:30

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:06

Potentially, obviously I didn’t know him when his children were young. However that still begs the question, why let us travel here if she was never going to meet up with us anyway?

Maybe he cancelled on her a lot and this is her revenge, a little bit of pay back. Petty maybe.

PinkyFlamingo · 25/07/2025 13:26

He has to have a conversation with her

senua · 25/07/2025 13:26

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:16

We offered much more than a meal. When we told her 9 months ago we said we’d like to spend time with her. We messaged a few weeks ago to make plans and she told us she was busy every night but the Friday.

He gives her money because she "needs" it.
She can afford to go out nearly every night and flit off to Rome for the weekend.
Her social life is so busy that she can hardly fit you in (despite 9months' notice)
I don't know what happened previously but he's being taken for a mug now.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:26

RubyGemStone · 25/07/2025 13:24

Do you see pictures of her/follow her on socials? Am wondering if there is something about herself and her life she is trying to hide or keep separate.

Alternatively maybe she is trying to make a point? Did her father let her down often as a child.

What is the brother's theory? Seems she is more honest with him.

One of my children follow her on instagram but she doesn’t post an awful lot, and what she does post isn’t very telling of much.

She sends her dad selfies etc. but is also very cryptic about her relationship, doesn’t talk about her boyfriend much, no idea what he does etc.

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Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:25

Perhaps she hoped he would make the decision to come alone.

RubyGemStone · 25/07/2025 13:24

Do you see pictures of her/follow her on socials? Am wondering if there is something about herself and her life she is trying to hide or keep separate.

Alternatively maybe she is trying to make a point? Did her father let her down often as a child.

What is the brother's theory? Seems she is more honest with him.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:21

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:20

Has he not tried to see her alone without you and your dc?

We have offered this too, we made it clear when we came she didn’t have to meet up with all of us but when making plans she said she didn’t really mind if we came?

It is confusing as she had the opportunity to stop us coming at all, meet up with just her dad or see all of us and has instead just cancelled once we are here.

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beAsensible1 · 25/07/2025 13:21

She’s clearly dodging him for some reason or other that you’re not privy to. Or something unresolved for her that he hasn’t noticed or bothered investigating. That’s usually it.

I don’t think you needed to make it a group holiday if it’s only Portugal. He could’ve gone for a weekend to try and see her and you could’ve done some thing together at a different time.

lisbon is great city and I’m sure you’ll be fine. Let your kids go and explore the city via e-bike or scooter.
visit Christ the redeemer. They’ve got an amazing waking city tour of all the old statues.

a food market where you try loads of different cuisines

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:20

Has he not tried to see her alone without you and your dc?

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:19

The update throws more light. I can see why she didn’t want to meet him with his new family when he’s barely any relationship with her.

LondonPapa · 25/07/2025 13:16

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:13

We paid half each but my 2 children (18 and 20) are with us so he paid more than his fair share in that sense.

Ah. Perhaps this is why the daughter isn’t coming for even a dinner?

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:16

McSpoot · 25/07/2025 13:15

Seems a bit odd that you'd plan a vacation in a city that you don't really like for one meal with his daughter. Maybe she felt that you weren't really there for her and were just throwing her some scraps.

We offered much more than a meal. When we told her 9 months ago we said we’d like to spend time with her. We messaged a few weeks ago to make plans and she told us she was busy every night but the Friday.

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LondonPapa · 25/07/2025 13:15

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

It is pretty normal for Russian fathers to keep paying for their daughters, even when they’re adults. Sometimes the sons are kept too but it depends on finances. Plus, by adulthood, it is expected the son is earning and doing well (especially if they’re from a reasonable background as I suspect OP’s partner is).

McSpoot · 25/07/2025 13:15

Seems a bit odd that you'd plan a vacation in a city that you don't really like for one meal with his daughter. Maybe she felt that you weren't really there for her and were just throwing her some scraps.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:13

DaisyChain505 · 25/07/2025 13:12

Did you pay towards the holiday or did he pay for it all?

We paid half each but my 2 children (18 and 20) are with us so he paid more than his fair share in that sense.

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TheRealGoose · 25/07/2025 13:12

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

I’d assume guilt money.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:12

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

Only his daughter, not his son. I’ve tried to find out why but his only answer is she needs it and he has it.

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