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To be frustrated we’ve come all this way for his daughter just to cancel

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Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:04

I have been with my partner for 5 years, we have a very good relationship. He is Russian, he has 2 children, a son and a daughter who are 24 and 26. His daughter lives in Lisbon with her boyfriend, his son lives in Moscow, we live in London.

We don’t see his children very much, he goes to see his son about once a year but I don’t feel comfortable visiting Russia so haven’t gone with him (first it was Covid now it’s the war and travel difficulties). He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022, when she visited London and spent exactly one hour with him.

Now I don’t know if it’s cultural or if they just aren’t close but he seems to be unworried about it and I’m not going to push, he messages them both often.

Any way this year we planed our family holiday around his daughter, so are spending this week in Lisbon, we told her the dates 9 months ago, she said she would be around and could meet for dinner. We were meant to be seeing her tonight but she’s cancelled, saying something has come up, we have asked to reschedule for tomorrow or Sunday as we come home on Monday but she has said she can’t as she is flying to Rome to see friends tomorrow afternoon.

Realistically we wouldn’t have come to Lisbon if it weren’t for his daughter, lovely city but we tend ti prefer more rural holidays. He still sends her money every month and he seems genuinely hurt that she isn’t making any effort to see him.

She seems to avoid us and we don’t know why, like last year she went home to Moscow for a week but when my partner said he would go too she lied and said she had changed her mind but then her brother told him afterwords that she had come home.

My partner claims he doesn’t know why she is doing this and that they were close and they still message often.

AIBU to be really frustrated about this? I wouldn’t mind if she had just told us she didn’t want to see us but we have come all this way, gave her plenty of notice and now she cancels?

OP posts:
Beachtastic · 27/07/2025 10:49

Rosscameasdoody · 25/07/2025 15:34

I love how so many posters are jumping to the conclusion that he’s been a bad father with absolutely no evidence to support it. Typical MN misandry.

Agree; it's possible she's a bit of a selfish princess.

MumsTheWordYouKnow · 27/07/2025 10:44

There is unresolved trauma between them. Might be Childhood Emotional Neglect. Look it up. And if he’s not acknowledged any problems there may have been in the family she’s unlikely to move on and seeing him might bring unpleasant memories and be triggering. Or she finds it hard that he moved on with you and it’s the ‘step mum’ thing even though you’re clearly not a step mum in that sense. It’s down to him though but clearly this has impacted you. It’s clear you shouldn’t arrange anything around her. Keep it simple let him go to see her or visa versa. He needs to acknowledge a bridge needs building first. Or she’ll continue to show, what I’d describe as, contempt. We all make mistakes as parents. None of us is perfect, but you can do repair work. But it needs to start with him taking responsibility. Children do not behave like this for no reason.

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 27/07/2025 10:30

Given that he last saw her in 2022 when she came to the UK, doesn’t sound like he is that bothered about seeing her so she probably has the same attitude towards him. Sounds like he has been a crap parent tbh.

jaxmum22 · 27/07/2025 10:29

I think it’s her that doesn’t want a relationship, he’s making all the effort and she’s doing nothing but making excuses not to spend time with him and he’s still giving her money every month. If he wants to spend time with her then stop the money, I think she’ll be breaking his door down in no time.

InveterateWineDrinker · 27/07/2025 10:09

This is the kind of thing my sibling used to do to our father. He had done nothing wrong: my sibling was just a vile individual who got off on power plays like this while still happily taking his money.

Melonjuice · 27/07/2025 10:04

Well, she’s happy taking his money ?

99bottlesofkombucha · 26/07/2025 23:16

They certainly don’t sound close. Do you have any evidence at all that they are close? That they message all the time? Or that she messages?

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 26/07/2025 23:13

I think he'll just have to have an honest conversation with her and try to repair whatever hurts she reveals.

Hmm1234 · 26/07/2025 22:49

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:04

I have been with my partner for 5 years, we have a very good relationship. He is Russian, he has 2 children, a son and a daughter who are 24 and 26. His daughter lives in Lisbon with her boyfriend, his son lives in Moscow, we live in London.

We don’t see his children very much, he goes to see his son about once a year but I don’t feel comfortable visiting Russia so haven’t gone with him (first it was Covid now it’s the war and travel difficulties). He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022, when she visited London and spent exactly one hour with him.

Now I don’t know if it’s cultural or if they just aren’t close but he seems to be unworried about it and I’m not going to push, he messages them both often.

Any way this year we planed our family holiday around his daughter, so are spending this week in Lisbon, we told her the dates 9 months ago, she said she would be around and could meet for dinner. We were meant to be seeing her tonight but she’s cancelled, saying something has come up, we have asked to reschedule for tomorrow or Sunday as we come home on Monday but she has said she can’t as she is flying to Rome to see friends tomorrow afternoon.

Realistically we wouldn’t have come to Lisbon if it weren’t for his daughter, lovely city but we tend ti prefer more rural holidays. He still sends her money every month and he seems genuinely hurt that she isn’t making any effort to see him.

She seems to avoid us and we don’t know why, like last year she went home to Moscow for a week but when my partner said he would go too she lied and said she had changed her mind but then her brother told him afterwords that she had come home.

My partner claims he doesn’t know why she is doing this and that they were close and they still message often.

AIBU to be really frustrated about this? I wouldn’t mind if she had just told us she didn’t want to see us but we have come all this way, gave her plenty of notice and now she cancels?

I’d be more concerned with his views on the Russia/ Ukraine war tbh and his son currently living in Moscow? Oligarch?

MellersSmellers · 26/07/2025 21:46

It's clearly completely unacceptable of her. She had an opportunity in the last 9 months to say "I rather not" and didn't. She obviously doesn't think the same way of him than he thinks of her, for whatever reason and however hurtful that may be.

FattyMallow · 26/07/2025 21:04

Divorce damages children. Exs tend to poison children and she sounds like a poisoned child, considering he's going out of his way sending money to a 24 year old... 😵‍💫 she's no feelings for him but is too cowardly, or hasn't even thought about it enough, to communicate her negativity to her father in a civilised manner. Whatever it is, it's very kind of you to feel for him. If he's wise he'll eventually realise you can't force a relationship that doesn't exist, or ever did. It's harsh but most people live in realities that don't exist rater than repare the reality they got themselves into. Good luck to you both though.

Spinmerightroundbaby · 26/07/2025 20:29

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:06

Potentially, obviously I didn’t know him when his children were young. However that still begs the question, why let us travel here if she was never going to meet up with us anyway?

Perhaps he insisted on the visit not picking up on cues that she wasn’t enthusiastic?

Isinglass20 · 26/07/2025 18:43

IMO I think it’s best if OP keeps out of it. There may be something in his past which he may not be permitted by the Russian state reveal and if he does then he puts them and himself at risk.

His daughter may know and does not want to be seen with him because that puts her at risk.

Neither her and her father can talk about this but project a facade of a relationship to avoid any revelation.

OP has been with him for five years and he hasn’t will not or cannot reveal this secret which may have something to do with daughters mother.

Janus · 26/07/2025 18:06

Ghrale · 26/07/2025 01:08

Hm I hadn’t considered this. My partner doesn’t like to talk politics very much and I don’t press but I don’t believe he is pro-putin from what I’ve heard.

I suppose his daughter could be but I’d be surprised since she is young and living abroad.

Interesting point though.

I’m amazed you are dating someone Russian and you’ve not really talked about the war with Ukraine!! I’d very much need to know his stance one way or another in order to be in a relationship with him!
But anyway, it does seem rude for you to have gone all that way and her not be available, I’d be thinking they can’t be that close after all? Or there’s much more to this and she has her reasons for not seeing him. However, Lisbon is one of my favourite cities so enjoy that instead!

pinkdelight · 26/07/2025 07:51

After the lengths she went to to avoid seeing him in Russia, it’s not that surprising she’s bailed on seeing him now. At least it is a lovely city so not like you went somewhere obscure so I’d try to make the most of it and not get involved in anything further to do with meeting her. He must know more about why it’s like this but it’s between them and no one’s place to say whose fault it is or that he should stop sending money. Kids are rarely ‘shitty kids’ without reason and these things are complicated and one thing we do know is that OP is not going to resolve and rift between them. You’ve tried to do this nice thing. It didn’t work out, you won’t do it again and he knows where her head’s at and can reflect on that. Enjoy the rest of your break and don’t plan any more around her.

Ddakji · 26/07/2025 07:37

MumWifeOther · 25/07/2025 23:45

That was her choice. As for the relationship with father and his daughter, it’s none of her business.

Of course it is. Her AIBU is about being frustrated that they made the plans, paid for them and now she bails.

She’s rude and a flake.

Ghrale · 26/07/2025 01:08

LegoNinjago · 26/07/2025 01:06

“He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022,”

OP, this stood out. The war with Ukraine started in 2022. Every Russian family I know had some sort of falling out because of this war.
I’m Russian, last time I spoke with my own parents was in 2022 as they are pro-Putin etc.

Hm I hadn’t considered this. My partner doesn’t like to talk politics very much and I don’t press but I don’t believe he is pro-putin from what I’ve heard.

I suppose his daughter could be but I’d be surprised since she is young and living abroad.

Interesting point though.

OP posts:
LegoNinjago · 26/07/2025 01:06

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:09

Apparently she isn’t close to her mother either, but it’s hard to know how true this is.

“He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022,”

OP, this stood out. The war with Ukraine started in 2022. Every Russian family I know had some sort of falling out because of this war.
I’m Russian, last time I spoke with my own parents was in 2022 as they are pro-Putin etc.

Cornishclio · 26/07/2025 00:15

Well if he doesn’t know why his daughter isn’t bothered about seeing him then you won’t. Lisbon has lots going for it so maybe just enjoy the trip. Perhaps he should stop with the financial support. If she can gad about here, there and everywhere she obviously doesn’t need it.

MumWifeOther · 25/07/2025 23:45

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 19:48

Of course it is when she’s paid for half the holiday built around seeing this daughter where she lives.

That was her choice. As for the relationship with father and his daughter, it’s none of her business.

RawBloomers · 25/07/2025 21:25

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:06

Potentially, obviously I didn’t know him when his children were young. However that still begs the question, why let us travel here if she was never going to meet up with us anyway?

Assuming he wasn't a good father (and we don't know this), it could be pay back as another poster mentioned, or it could be that she wanted to meet up/thinks she ought to/etc. but when it comes down to it, bottles and backs out.

She is obviously avoiding him. The messaging they do sounds very superficial if she sends selfies but he has no idea what her partner does, etc., thinks she needs money but she's out every night and flitting off to Rome.

But it's also possible it's her. It might be that she has mental health issues, or her partner is controlling or something else. Doesn't sound like your DP is interested in finding out, though.

From your perspective though, there is no value in being a part of your DP's attempts to meet his DD until he's developed an actual relationship with her. For one, it's a lot of bother for you, expensive in terms of time and opportunity. And secondly, since he clearly doesn't really know her, you being there, involved in any way, is likely to impede rather than help any possibility of him actually connecting with her.

I think you need to wash your hands of it. Let your DP live in his bubble where he doesn't think there's anything wrong with his relationships with his kids, but don't be drawn into organizing your calendar (or anything else) around them. Support him if he wants to do something but don't be involved with it. Tell him he should absolutely go off and see them if he wants but you're doing X.

I would be a little bit wary about a partner who seems so oblivious, though. He may just be hiding things because he's embarrassed, but someone who is really that clueless is unlikely to be good partnership material for the long haul.

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 19:49

She’s rude and a flake.

All of this “there must be a reason” - well, why didn’t that reason make an appearance when the arrangements were being made?

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 19:48

MumWifeOther · 25/07/2025 13:53

its none of your business really

Of course it is when she’s paid for half the holiday built around seeing this daughter where she lives.

Theroadt · 25/07/2025 19:46

Probably a mistake taking your kids. People always seem to think kids should accept a “blended family” and embrace it but as adults why should they? Their dad’s choice, not their’s. Stay well out of it, I would

Cucy · 25/07/2025 18:11

It’s very rude of her to say she’s going to meet and then doesn’t but there’s obviously a reason.

She obviously doesn’t like him or you (maybe your kids).

How many times has he tried meeting her without you or your kids?

If she avoids meeting him, even when you aren’t there, then it’s obviously him she has a problem with.

It could be that he wasn’t that involved when they were young and she feels no need to put her life on pause for him, perhaps she even does it intentionally.

As you’ve been together 5 years, it would make sense for you to have more of a relationship with both of them.
So I would try and start messaging them (just things like happy birthday etc to begin with) and once you’re closer you can ask more about their childhood.

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