To think weight-loss injections should be prescribed in person only. The scale of abuse must be shocking.

And what serious and potentially life threatening disease were cigarettes treating before people realised they caused cancer?

Every single person taking these injections has the same opportunity to find out information about side effects and dangers. If they choose to lie in order to take them, that's their choice.

Vibes. Possibly copium too, hard to say without more information. All desperaly scientific either way.

On what basis are you comparing WLI (which the science has actually been around for years, it’s just recently they are prescribed as an WL aid) against smoking?

I’ve read it all now.

Hrft but certainly interesting.
I suspect if you reviewed the papers of 70 years ago when people were promoting the benefits of cigarettes (but no SM) the comments, on both sides, would be similar.

I don't think there's any argument now to suggest cigarettes are safe but it took a long time to make people believe how awful they are, and many people still can't function without them. I suspect these injections will follow the same path.

Thank you for explaining this so well 👏

I’m taking it. My BMI was 27 when I started, and I have both high cholesterol and PCOS. So I was totally honest with weight / height. The reality is that I’ve been into weightlifting for several years and I know that I’m likely carrying an extra 6-7 kg of muscle than what I had say 10 years ago. So when I started I was a size 12 (ie size 10 clothes too tight).

Since menopause I’ve found it so hard to lose weight and cholesterol has crept up.

I’m sticking to the lowest dose, I’m not at risk of osteoporosis (had a dexa scan last year). I’m also very careful to eat over 1200 calories a day and at least 120g protein.

Meanwhile. It’s had the most amazing effect on my menopause joint ache. I don’t have any side effects, and I love that I can eat a healthy meal but am not tempted to snack.

i’m on a Facebook group wit the supplier and I’m in shock with the number of people saying stuff like:

all I could eat yesterday was a piece of toast or
I’m being sick all the time but I want to continue as losing weight or
clueless about protein or weight bearing exercise

So, I don’t have any issue with your thin friends taking, I have more concerns with suppliers not making people check in more often to confirm they are eating a balanced diet / are lifting weights / don’t have awful side effects

It is incredible how the people yarning on about diet and exercise don't realise how exceptionally fucking stupid they sound.

There is no combination of diet and exercise that has been shown to work at keeping a majority of formerly obese people within normal BMI. Not just losing the weight in the first place, but maintaining. You are pissing in the wind. Nothing in human evolution has prepared us for whole lifetimes where food is never scarce. Human bodies get obese easily because they're supposed to, because there are thousands of generations of selection for that very thing.

I understand having concerns about misuse even when a lot of the examples given on here are clearly people trolling but we are not going to diet and exercise our way out of the obesity crisis. The science is settled.

I think there is an argument for better prescribing. But I hold the prescribers and dispensers responsible, not the individuals, if people get their hands on it who should not take it.

My biggest hope however is that whilst these are really wonder drugs which will save the NHS millions, I hope we don’t lose the focus on why obesity is increasing and how we got here. It would be much better to tackle the root causes than treat the end result. The WLIs may be a distraction from the real issue here.

Yes indeed. I lost 4 stone in just over 2 months on a shakes diet (recommended by my GP). I'm pretty sure it's what gave me gallstones and I put the weight back on within 6 months. It was never a good solution.

I've tried personal trainers but I know more than a lot of them as I've been going to a gym for 30 years. If exercise made me lose weight I'd be a size 6. It's eating less which makes me lose weight. My diet was very good but I need to eat very little to actially shift the weight.

Plus you have to have time in your life for several hours with a PT each week - many people don't have those spare hours to travel off to the PT

It’s patronizing. Assuming people haven’t weighed up the risks and don’t have basic understanding of how medication works.

Do you honestly think you are more intelligent?

so in your scenario - only you have listened to the news and know about this tusami and you are running around screaming at these people who are blissfully sunbathing? You think it’s the same about weigh loss drugs - only you have done the research and fully understand the balance of risks between being obese and taking the medications. All the people taking the medication haven’t bothered to research it but you have?

You are so arrogant it’s unbelievable

@ Well said, and congratulations on your new found good health.

Well other than lost weight loss, the drug has dropped my blood pressure to a very healthy level, prior to weight loss occurring.

It has also taken away the pain and hideous swelling in my auto immune disease affected joints in a way that the very toxic immuno suppressant drugs I was given like smarties in never has. The immunosuppressant is so nasty that my blood needed tested every month to see which organ it might be destroying.
I now dont take it , and have normal looking pain free joints after decades of decline. Again within weeks of starting MJ.

I also no longer need the dangerous NSAID drugs I took daily just to keep mobile and manage pain. The list of side effects and dangers of these is much greater than GLPs, yet I could walk into the local chemist to buy them.
Haven't needed these either since a week after first jab, as my pain has gone.

And of course I am now slim and fit.

I am so sick of the dog whistle anti GLP attitude.
There are plenty of dangerous drugs out there , that

"concerned" people don't get hyperbolic and hysterical about.

If you don't approve of them, don't take them.
What other people do is none of your business .

@MtJaro so a very similar set up to the one I have except I do a mix of the prescribing being done where I live but I then purchase my pens in the UK from a pharmacy connected to my health care provider. I could get the pens here from the local pharmacy with my prescription but it would cost the equivalent of 460 pounds a month, no insurance involved, but doing it the way I do they cost 320 pounds. For me one of the most exciting things about being on Mounjaro has been the blood tests every few months and seeing the huge improvements in my health as I’ve gone along. If there’s anything better than knowing you’re healthier it has to be seeing with your own eyes that you are. I’m about 2 weeks away from my target which is 9kgs above my upper BMI and though I did go up to 12.5 for 3 weeks I felt unwell on it and went back down to 10 and have stayed there for months. I’ll start tapering down as soon as I reach my target and hope to be off Mounjaro completely by the 15th of November. Oh and I should be off my BP tablets on the 14th of August, one day before my one year start of Mounjaro anniversary. My cholesterol has also been slashed as has my blood sugar, and I’m no longer prediabetic. Oh and the muscles I had under my fat after alll those years of personal training 🤣

I’m on Mounjaro but I’ve also had a personal trainer for about 8 years. I’ve also recently had about 2 years worth of counselling. Everything together is what I call my whole person approach to my weight loss journey. Mounjaro wasn’t the start of the journey. It’s the end of it. I couldn’t have done what I’ve done without any of the above, and my one pound a week weight loss since last August has been mammoth.

So, if there is a tsunami coming and someone runs to tell you, do you assume they are just jealous of the position of your sunlounger on the beach?

I've been on Mounjaro since October, sticking to only 2.5mg and I've hit my goal weight this week. I'm now within the healthy BMI range for the first time in over 10 years. I've lost over 4 stone now.

I don't live in the UK, where I live, you can only get Mounjaro if it is prescribed by a specialist doctor. I have to see my doctor every month before getting my next prescription and I have regular blood tests to make sure all is OK.

I think it should be the same in the UK.

My goodness you know a lot about this lady.

I think some posters are missing the fact that WL injections are prescribed for maintenance as well as weight loss, so yes, normal sized people will be on it. I have a normal BMI and take it to maintain. I'm in good shape now and am building muscle, have body fat of 20-21%. I had BMI of 30 before and was stopping exercising because I found it difficult.

The medication isn't the issue, it's the person taking it and society's obsession with being super thin.

I think having a more muscular physique as a female is more fashionable now anyway. So many women getting into strength training, especially older women.

I agree. An in-person pharmacy can measure your height and weight. Online is just asking for people with eating disorders to find a way to get it.

I know a lot of people who have used MJ and it's getting of hand.

One girl has lost 6 stone - absolutely brilliant, but she now has a BMI of 22 and has recently increases her dose again, because she wasnt losing any more weight? The original goal was to get to 23 and maintain, which she was doing but the goalposts seem to have changed and she now wants to lose more, for seemingly no reason?

Most MJ influencers and long term users I know, get so caught up in the high of losing weight that when it stops, they cant seem to accept that.

Its a bit dangerous and going to lead to some eating disorders I think.

I cant get it anyway, as I have a thyroid issue and dont fancy damaging it any more than it already is! So ill just try the old fashioned way.

Very well said!!

if only solving obesity was diet shakes and exercise..!!