To think weight-loss injections should be prescribed in person only. The scale of abuse must be shocking.

Ok, so she’s eaten nothing and then drunk heavily. I sincerely hope she is ok, but this is not evidence of a drug interaction.

In fact studies are showing that these drugs could be an extremely useful tool in alcohol dependence disorder https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-48267-2 . You don’t start suggesting that if it’s dangerous to combine with alcohol!

No I agree. You are making huge leaps based on limited evidence

The ambulance people would not tell me much ( I'm not her parent) other that they do see this and her heart rate was far too high, blood sugar too low . Asked for toast with something sugary - jam or honey. Then took her in and they'd probably need to get more fluids inside her. I won't add more to this thread. Doesn't seem appropriate.

@BlueLimesits an odd thing to lie about. Do you want proof. It’s very very easy

So while she was being transported in an ambulance - this woman who isn’t a close friend of your daughter - you knew her medical issue was caused by alcohol and Mounjaro? How did you know that? Surely even at that stage she hadn’t seen a doctor, hadn’t had any bloodwork? You don’t know, I assume, if she had taken any drugs, what she had eaten, how much she had to drink, what her medical history is.

yet you were able to confidently diagnose her?

seems like bullshit to me

I don’t think you’re unreasonable to be concerned.

Hopefully the crack downs and system changes will help prevent abuse.

I’ve been on MJ since January, started at over 14st 4lb BMI 33. As of today I’m at 10st 6lb BMI just went under 25! It has been amazing for me. I just completed my first 10mg pen (it goes up to 15mg) so I’m not even on highest dose.
My company I’m with use a system of weekly check ins via video call and I have to weigh in live on the call and show the scales etc

I hope that I can lose another stone to put me firmly under 25 BMI. I’m around a 12 size now.

But there is no evidence of this. It is not a listed side effect, and none of the many safety trials involving hundreds of thousand of people have found any evidence that mounjaro interacts with alcohol.

It is of course possible for any individual to have a unique reaction to any drug, but suggesting that there is some sort of widespread risk to drinking while on WLI is simply not true.

I am on my third injection pen, I am really short, my starting weight was over 13st and bmi of 33. I’ve lost 1 1/2 stone and I now 30. I get it through a chemist and sticking to the 2.5 dose for time being.

my sil is also on it, has always been on a diet of some sort but never needed it, she is looking extremely ill, near the 7st range. She won’t stop though.

I really don't understand how tbey manage to do that. I have a very significant amount of weight to lose and when I have used any provider I've had to send pics of me in tight fitting clothes/undies/swimsuit and a pic standing on scales with a pie e of paper with the date on

There is no “counteraction” between Mounjaro and alcohol. What interaction are you referring to @RememberBeKindWithKaren? Could you indicate where you’ve seen any information about Mounjaro and alcohol, or who told you this?

Correction - daughter's friend. Although not a close friend it seems

Not a lie. Friends daughter is now in hospital

@AirborneElephant yes you could well be right. But the fact people are unaware of the potential for ending up in hospital after drinking moderately to me is a sign there's a problem.

I suspect the poster was just making it up and is now caught out in her lie😊

Absolutely agree. I have to eat sub 1000 cals to maintain and sub 850 or so to lose. I'm 5ft and 50. I don't do a lot of exercise but even when I did it made little difference to weight loss. I generally exist on smoothies or protein yoghurts, rice cakes with homous, cottage cheese or avocado, nuts, cheese, chicken, eggs and chicken or prawns, plus lots of salad and green veg. A bit of chocolate now and then but rarely fancy it since starting WLI. I'm drinking way less. I feel so much better, no just for being two stone down but just better all over. I'm a low dose and it feels sustainable in a way previous attempts (many) have not.

It’s not uncommon at all for 4ft 11 - 5ft 1 menopausal women.

I do agree that they need to be more tightly controlled, but that is now happening with all the online providers. I am concerned by people who say they can barely eat and yet continue to increase their dose, and there are the occasional photos online that make me wince. I’m sure some people take it when the have an ED, but then again I have known a number of people well who have fought through EDs and they all took a number of very unsafe drugs during their worst points, so that’s nothing very new.

What I don’t like about the conversation is two things. Firstly that they should be the last resort. Why? What scientific evidence for that is there? This feels like a moral judgement that fat people should suffer and be punished in order to be allowed into the hallowed halls of the slim. Secondly that people think regain risk is some sort of killer argument. Of course it’s a problem, as it is on all diets. Astounded to think that people feel it’s less likely if you’re eating nothing but shakes rather than just smaller proper meals on WLI. Fundamentally it’s still a lot easier to use willpower to eat maintenance calories than to maintain a deficit.

Unless you live somewhere really rurally, where GP/hospital appointments are already done to video link, then I do think it should be an in-person meeting. It's seen as a wonder medication by many, and while losing weight is definitely a good idea if you are overweight/obese/morbidly obese, it shouldn't be seen as a cheats way to stay slim. If you have to lie about anything in your medical history to get it, including non-disclosure of other conditions or medications, then you really need to ask yourself if you actually have a problem. I get that this drug does change some people's lives, but it also needs to be in a safe and regulated manner.

Of all the daft things I've read about WLI, this has to take the biscuit.

I'm not on them, and don't need them, so have no skin in the game either way. But I honestly can't see some of these anti-WLI posters as anything other than a bunch of tricoteuses, loudly exhibiting their shock and faux concern whilst gleefully anticipating disaster.

Eh? It really doesn’t. I suspect what happened is that she ate nothing and then drank spirits on an empty stomach.

More sceptical of the number people are claiming to know. Agree if people want to get their hands on it there are multiple ways to do so- the wires being via someone they know rather than a prescriber.

Again, personal responsibility.

There is no shortage of information widely available.

Clearly a video call is a step up from providing a photo. It’s more rigorous.

sceptical? You honestly don’t think this happens?