To think weight-loss injections should be prescribed in person only. The scale of abuse must be shocking.

I am curious about what proportion of weight-loss injections are prescribed to men compared to women. I would have thought that it would be fairly equal via the NHS but anecdotally I only know of women who buy it privately. I suppose men might just be less likely to talk about it but I suspect it's far more likely to be predominantly women who would be willing to pay.

I doubt there’s enough people managing to find ways to fake their BMIs to affect supply in that way. And pharmacies would be able to prevent that by doing more thorough checks for those near the cut off boundary if they felt they were being pushed to manage to supply enough 2.5mg doses. The only shortages I have seen are some pharmacies occasionally not having enough of the higher doses, 12.5 and 15mg. That’s down to their own planning though and not a manufacturer issue. The higher doses are more expensive to buy wholesale, so I guess some pharmacies may deliberately keep stock lower of those, for cost reasons.

If that demand is being met, that is, if those who manage to tweak the numbers to put their BMI in the 30+ brackets, then are they not potentially reducing the supply for those who are genuinely 30+? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here?

Agree with @SilenceInside , the article does not actually talk about supply issues.

Worth remembering Eli Lilly is aggressively rolling out this medication to huge countries like India, the UK demand is tiny compared to places like that.

Any recent delays in the supply chain have been down to planning by either our providers or their wholesalers rather than Eli Lilly themselves.

@AirborneElephant don't think it is, or should be, quite as black and white as that. In the unlikely event of supply shortages, those on it for diabetes some (not all) may have alternative medications they can be supplied with to control blood sugars, for some people who are morbidly obese with multiple weight related conditions may have as many urgent health risks as someone with diabetes. How do you choose? Obviously those with lower BMIs and no health conditions are less at risk. The NHS isn't really setup to make those choices effectively for all patients across all UK countries quickly either. Lets just hope there are no shortages!

@xsquared that article is mainly talking about increased demand from people who don’t meet the criteria at all for WLI and are likely to try to lie to obtain prescription-only medication or access medication from dodgy sources. Increased demand from people who don’t qualify isn’t going to cause a shortage of medication for those that do qualify, especially if pharmacies continue to tighten their application processes.

If there is a shortage then those on it for diabetes should be prioritised. But Lily will be working very hard to fill demand, they know they only have a few years to milk the cash cow before generics get licensed.

I can't find anywhere that tells you the proportion of users who obtained WLI by lying or buying from an unreliable source, but I do think the OP has a point if this means that there will be a shortage for those who actually qualify.

Only today I heard on radio news that the demand for WLI was becoming unsustainable that it may outstrip supply.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/weigh-loss-jabs-pharmacy-injections-b2796955.html

Yesterday I drank a lot of alcohol
i had a terrible headache around 1am and this morning I'm definitely hungover but otherwise all as expected 😆

Agree completely. I know plenty of people who are on MJ and consume moderate amounts of alcohol.

Or the young woman isn’t aware of how much she drank, or she is fully aware and is deliberately saying she had less than she did.

Wow - have you any links to this? Agree - it’s pretty obvious that lots of people are feeling disadvantaged due to the jabs despite the health benefits.
Guess eating clean ish - would help overcome some of this.

Meanwhile big food companies are working overtime to invent eatable substances which can overcome the reduction in appetite caused by weight loss injections.

As I mentioned earlier, cigarettes do suppress the appetite and provide a 'hit' that is calming, it's just that the 'side effects' of smoking them are too dangerous to warrant taking up smoking for those benefits.

But they didn't actually do any of those things, unlike WLI which are treating obesity.

I would have thought if you were okay drinking a certain amount of alcoholic drink at the higher weight then you would tolerate less at a lower body weight plus if you hardly ate you would be drinking on an empty stomach plus the effects of lower blood sugar could cause a problem in some people plus acute pancreatitis is a risk of both alcohol and mountjaro. So not impossible.
A lot of non medical prescribers are being heavily persuaded by gyms and beauty salons to prescribe (a big no from me)

Same here. I belong to a FB Mounjaro group with hundreds of members. No reported issues with having a few drinks. I was at a family wedding recently and had a right skinful a few, and was absolutely fine.

There is no problem with MJ and alcohol. I drank the entire 14 months on it in moderate amounts. This will be a person specific anecdote.

I very much doubt that.

I'm sitting here with a glass of wine waiting for the England game to start. I've carried in drinking a (moderate) amount of alcohol throughout being on MJ. As have all my friends who are taking it.

I'm very sorry if she's been taken ill and admitted to hospital but I don't think it can simply be an interaction between MJ and alcohol otherwise I'd be in hospital every weekend

This much is verrrrrrrry obvious.

@TryingAgainAgainAgain
I'm not sure tbh, she has kept it hidden for a long period of time, only recently has told my brother. We saw her at a party a few months back and it was quite shocking seeing her, she’s lost a lot more since then.

It's the simple fact that using this drug makes you slim that infuriates people. If Tirzepatide had been found to help clear your sinuses, or cure peptic ulcers, people couldn't have cared less who was taking it.

@BlueLimesok yes you’re totally right. Thanks

No- not interested in personal reports only scientific peer reviewed evidence.

Lots of people drink while taking Mounjaro. I do. I don’t drink as much, and I am conscious of drinking when on any medication. But I have never seen any advice that you cent drink while taking Mounjaro.

this is a prime example of scaremongering by someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

How is your SIL getting it?