This is why we should bring back the death penalty

Hey, don't confuse the salivating sadists with facts.

😆I'd be mortified if I had posted something so nakedly narcissistic and self-reverential.

Translation; "There is no point to human rights, due process or any of those other namby pamby left wing ideas. Who cares if the person might be innocent and could prove it on appeal? Kill kill kill!"

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Nicely done.

So where would the money come from to pay for all your new justice system then?

for a start you want to bring in the death penalty. That’s going to be expensive.

where are you getting the money from??

So how will they get food? Exercise? Shower? Visits including legal teams and family? Healthcare

things they have to have access to by law?

In the USA, the murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty, and the gap has grown since 1990.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

You’re not in charge though and for very good reason. You don’t even think rationally.

If I was in charge of the justice system there would be a lot less crime, that's for sure. The system would be run for the benefit of the law-abiding public.

What a completely stupid idea. Ever heard of miscarriages of justice?

It's a good thing you are not in charge of the justice system.

No point in appeals?

You've really not thought this through have you.

A spectacularly dumb idea

Keep the prisoners locked in their cells. That way they can't escape or cause trouble. And the death sentence should be carried out quickly after conviction. There's no point in having endless appeals or delays.

If they are given a full life order or a long sentence they are unlikely to outlive, then they won’t be out on the streets able to hurt anyone again. So that argument is invalid

that leaves myself, my colleagues and other prison staff as well as fellow prisoners. But nobody cares about that, as evidenced on this thread. Nobody thinks it through properly, just sweeping statements saying ‘execute them’ no thought given to how behaviour will change whilst waiting for the system to give a prisoner a ‘date’ … how dangerous they will become. How unpredictable. And then every other prisoner will be wondering if they are next…

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"hurt fewer people going forward"? Why take the risk. Why accept that innocent people will be brutalised by these people that have already proved themselves to be monsters. Why should criminal lives take precedence over law-abiding people's lives?

Spot on, Nasrine.

I guarantee that every single 'hang'em and flog'em' poster is either a Reform voter, or is attracted to that end of the political spectrum. I also suspect they mostly know absolutely nothing about our prison system, think prison is an easy ride, and think anyone who points out that the majority of those in prison have mental illness, learning difficulties, and are vastly more likely to come out of the care system, is 'making excuses for bad people'. These are the people responsible for so much inhumanity in the criminal justice system, and the high rates of recidivism that go with that inhumanity.

My daughter works with category 1 ex-prisoners. The worst of the worst. I'm so glad she's able to see even their humanity enough to want to support them to live better lives outside of prison and hurt fewer people going forward. You can't do this if you spend your life wishing these ex prisoners were dead. I'm proud of her for what she does, particularly as she was a victim of a serious crime as a child.

It’s a relief to see that the majority think that the OP is being unreasonable. But enough of the “some collateral damage is worth it” dehumanising brigade to be deeply depressing.

Surely the crux of the issue is dehumanisation. The criminal has dehumanised their victim and the villagers want to dehumanise the perpetrator.

And there’s our problem. You think killing people is permissible - in fact it’s to be recommended - and I don’t.

Except for patronising twats, obviously. In that case, I’d pull the handle myself.

In general, I don’t approve of statements like “these people shouldn’t be allowed to vote”. Everyone should be entitled to make their views heard. But I’m leaning towards an exception for people who characterise any human as non-human and express a keenness to be sentencing judge and executioner.

They really are just a hairsbreadth away from becoming exactly what they (and I) hate.

"Gene pool"?
If it is just genes then sterilise them
And all their family members??

But it s way more complex than genetics
Education past experiences etcetera

I'm not sure you can expect a coherent argument from someone who describes others as cancerous non humans. They don't tend to think things through. They don't realise that human rights apply equally and that includes them.

How would you feel if your child was one of the microscopic? Hopefully, you’d just take it on the chin, shrug your shoulders, because it’s worth it?

I wonder if they’d feel the same if it were one of their children, I mean it’s just collateral damage isn’t it. It’s not like a real human is being killed.

@ohnotthisagain2025, you should also put into your cost benefit analysis the fact that juries are reluctant to convict in death penalty cases. Is it worth letting guilty people off scott free?