This is why we should bring back the death penalty

Er no! No thanks because every attack on a prisoner has to be broken up…. So that’s me and my colleagues having to wade in and risk our neck EVERY SINGLE TIME … and it means prisoners holding and secreting improvised weapons which again, impact on our safety on the wings

people don’t think of these things when they lazily call for ‘prison justice’ though

The more vengeful you feel =/= the more you care and the better person you are.

At least the death penalty debate here has meant we haven’t had the typical in-prison torture thread where a certain type of poster competes with increasingly grotesque fantasies to prove how outraged and morally upstanding they are.

If the other prisoners attacked and killed him, I would think it served him right. I still don't think that the UK should bring back the death penalty. The countries that still have the death penalty and use it the most aren't countries that I would want to emulate, e.g. China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and the USA.

There have been numerous miscarriages of justice over the years that would have resulted in innocent people being killed by the state if the UK had still had the death penalty. It's barbaric and we are better than that as a country.

@bluewanda You want revenge because that 'feels good'? Isn't that the sort of behaviour you'd like to prevent?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Anthony

others as well

Have you ever delved into why your views on criminal justice align with the violent criminals who perpetrated this attack?

This is horrendous whatever the age.. like I said previously, where do we draw the line? Who decides? What makes one death worse than another? There’s still a grieving family. What makes one person’s loss greater than anothers? What if the murderer was abused, had an unimaginable childhood? What if the murderer is 14? There’s too many variables. The need for revenge is not a good place to start.

Well thats quite a sweeping statement.

Why would I subject myself to watching this? Why are you watching this?

There was Sally Clark who was jailed after she lost 2 babies to SIDS. She was a solicitor and daughter of a policeman so was horribly abused in prison and drank herself to death after her release. Do you think the trauma to the rest of her grieving family would have been more or less if she'd been executed?

The end result is the same.

The end result. We’re all in agreement that the taking of a life is wrong yet condoning the taking of a life.

The daily mail is a load of rubbish op. It’s known for being a load of rubbish. The story may have some truth to it; but the daily mail will add in some untruths also!!

Stop reading it; over time it will affect your judgement 🫠🫠🫠

The USA still has the death penalty and their murder rate is much higher than ours.

Not true. It has been shown that it actually costs a lot more in the long run because someone on death row has the rights to appeal and there are lots of hoops to jump through before getting to that point to ensure everything is done correctly.

I certainly think we should bring back the death penalty for the worst of crimes including those who torture children. We would save money by getting on with it and executing them quickly after conviction, really no need for them to linger on ‘death row’ at the tax payers expense. Scum like this deserve nothing less than being taken out by the cheapest means available.

That's incredibly misinformed. Do you think these people who are 'nuts' or have got 'something missing in their brain' should just be killed at birth to save a lot of trouble? You really haven't thought about this at all.

Would you be happier if they were locked up for life?
Or is the only choice what happens now vs death?

But so often we see these cases and afterwards it is established that there were so many warning signs and people raising the alarm but for whatever reason nothing was done with that information, or there was no joint up work between agencies.

Usually they're nuts, a technical term I know, but they have something missing in their brain they turn out bad however you bring them up.

Perhaps you should use your intelligence to consider just how we end up with people who commit these crimes in our society?

That’s not a blanket thing though. Some people are just born psychopaths. Nothing to do with upbringing or environment. Then there are others who are what their upbringing/environment has made them.

Yes! I read the original report on BBC news before this thread. Thought OPs post was about something different with the cross dressing heading (didn’t click on it because it’s DM), but gathered what it was referencing quickly.

Agreed

The world might be a better place without him in it. But it would also be a better place without judicial killing.

True. But the world would be a much worse place if everywhere had death penalties. Logical thinking soon gets you to the conclusion that having the death penalty doesn't gain us anything - it's just more killing.